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WCS Europe - Ro32 Group G Preview (Season 2)

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WCS Europe - Ro32 Group G Preview (Season 2)

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May 29th, 2014 11:47 GMT
2014 WCS

WCS Europe Season 2
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Ro32: Group G Preview

(T)MMA, (Z)LiveZerg, (T)Dayshi, (T)ForGG
Countdown:


by Peanuts and Waxangel

The GSL disease has landed in WCS Europe. While eight Protoss players and three Zergs players have confirmed their spots in the Ro16, only two Terrans have managed to survive thus far. With no Terrans scheduled to play in Saturday's Group H, Thursday night's Group G will be the final hope for Terran fans around the world.

Leading the charge is last season’s runner up, (T)Acer.MMA. Catching fire in the summer of 2013, MMA has been a dominant force in WCS Europe ever since. He won the final Premier League of 2013, and took down many of the region's best players on his way to a second place finish in 2014's first season. Many predicted that he would go on to win it all, but he was denied by MC and his devastating all-ins at the very end.

MMA looks like he's in position to start off Season 2 on a strong note. Having initially made a name for himself in the (glorious) era of GomTvT, the Acer Terran excels at the mirror match-up, putting up a 14-2 record in the past two months. His play is marked by a wide repertoire of styles, from pure mech, to marine-tank, to drop heavy, pure bio play, which will serve him well in this group. Although MMA lost to VortiX in the last season of WCS, that was more an exception than the norm regarding his TvZ. His two-month record is an incredible 29-4, and LiveZerg is likely to end up as wins number 30 and 31.

It's hard not to feel bad for (Z)Vega.LiveZerg, who had the misfortune of drawing MMA as his first opponent. Still, even if he's in for a difficult night of games, he's not dead in the water. Having just one race to prepare for is always an advantage, and LiveZerg has shown he's willing to use cheese to defeat tough opponents. Going up against jjakji in last season's Ro32, LiveZerg pulled out all the stops, throwing three different busts/all-in builds to try and take a win. Though that resulted in a 1-2 loss for LiveZerg then, it shows that he has the potential to pull off an upset if he catches MMA unaware. Down in Challenger, LiveZerg looked comfortable playing macro games as he beat Morrow 3-1, so look for him to take the other two players relatively straight up with a sprinkling of roach aggression.

On the other side of the bracket we have a Millenium team-kill as (T)ForGG faces off against (T)Dayshi. Both are very familiar faces in the WCS Europe Premier League, but besides ForGG's semifinals run in WCS Season 1 of 2013, neither has been in the championship picture.

That fact is particularly disappointing for ForGG, a player who went to Europe in search of titles. He's come close once or twice, and he's made a fair amount of money in the process, but a Premier tournament championship has continued to elude him. Some might even fear his window to win a championship has closed – he was the most fearsome player in the European scene when he first came in, but his frequent losses to foreigners have made it's hard to call it an "upset" when he loses.

ForGG briefly flared up again earlier this year at ASUS ROG Winter, where he showed genuine championship potential as he went toe to toe with players like Dear, San and Jaedong. Unfortunately, he followed that with his worst WCS Europe run ever, dropping out of the Ro32 with losses to BabyKnight and the little-known Lilbow. All that said, it's not like ForGG is chopped liver. He's still a workhorse for Millenium in team leagues, and he continues to be one of the stronger players in WCS Europe.

ForGG's chances of reaching the Ro16 are especially good as he's drawn an ideal first match-up against teammate Dayshi, who he's 16-0 against all time. Yes, 16-0.

To make matters worse for Dayshi, it's not like he's been playing particularly well in TvT overall. With a 14-16 record in the last two months, beating MMA will be a tall order. At least Dayshi has a chance to play against LiveZerg, with TvZ having been his best match-up ever since the start of HotS (although, some fans might have hoped to see Dayshi play TvP for the chance at seeing some mech vs Protoss).

With the two Europeans drawing such difficult first matches, it doesn't seem Europe will be doing much "holding" tonight. It may be a price worth paying to see more Terrans later in the tournament.

Predictions:

MMA > LiveZerg
ForGG > Dayshi
MMA > ForGG
Dayshi LiveZerg
ForGG > Dayshi (just for good measure)

MMA and ForGG advance.

Writers: Peanuts and Waxangel.
Photos: ESL.
Editors: Waxangel.
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algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
May 29 2014 11:50 GMT
#2
Dayshi's TvT seems aweful these days but I wouldn't be surprised if ForGG managed to fuck up his games
rly ?
SpunXtain20
Profile Joined January 2014
Australia554 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 12:07:25
May 29 2014 12:01 GMT
#3
How the heck is 4GG 16-0 against Dayshi. That's criminal. Dayshi is such a good Terran! Never seen someone have someone else's number so bad...

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urasyupi2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States810 Posts
May 29 2014 12:07 GMT
#4
Let's go MMA!
hemeh
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 12:16:11
May 29 2014 12:15 GMT
#5
And then dayshi goes 2x 8/8/8 and 2-0'd forGG...

Ahah
Yeah, i really can't see anyone beside forGG and MMA qualifying, I hope for an awesome TvT between the two tho !
Of course Dayshi could pull an upset, you never now with the guy...But it is unlikely.


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Yeah LZ i didn't mention you...
ur fucked bro.
RIP MKP
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
May 29 2014 12:20 GMT
#6
MMA and ForGG for me too. Unless Dayshi is mindfucking everyone for weeks in preparation of this group but I don't think it's the case.
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havok55
Profile Joined May 2013
United States276 Posts
May 29 2014 12:39 GMT
#7
Go Terrans.
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
May 29 2014 12:55 GMT
#8
On May 29 2014 21:01 SpunXtain20 wrote:
How the heck is 4GG 16-0 against Dayshi. That's criminal. Dayshi is such a good Terran! Never seen someone have someone else's number so bad...

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Stephano vs. Grubby was 25-1 (Grubby won a map in a Bo3 once) during WoL, with a 19-0 streak. HotS has done well for Grubby though in that regard, as he's 5-4 against Stephano there.

ForGG & MMA definitely have the best record coming into this and they don't have to play each other first, so it seems like a safe bet that they'll go through.. but WCS is full of surprises this year so let's see what happens!
Cute
fingerwaggin
Profile Joined April 2012
Russian Federation167 Posts
May 29 2014 13:01 GMT
#9
Daishy > LiveZerg
AKAvg
Profile Joined April 2014
Brazil298 Posts
May 29 2014 13:19 GMT
#10
Ouch 16-0 is rough. Especially the "zero" part
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
May 29 2014 13:34 GMT
#11
Wish MMA, ForGG and Dayshi could all make it
Androxide
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada340 Posts
May 29 2014 14:05 GMT
#12
Anyone remember Dayshi's tweet from a couple days ago where he had lost a TvT to MC's offrace? It's not looking good against two solid (read amazing) Korean TvTers.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 29 2014 14:53 GMT
#13
LET'S GO MMA!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
May 29 2014 14:58 GMT
#14
ForGG in first if he pulls out the real ForGGTvT
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HonorZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France858 Posts
May 29 2014 15:37 GMT
#15
Nice preview GOGO MMA !!!
"If you don't drop sweat today you'll drop tears tomorrow"
Roachu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden692 Posts
May 29 2014 16:11 GMT
#16
Nice with a health dose of Terran infused into the Ro16.
Don't be asshats
mvdunecats
Profile Joined December 2011
United States102 Posts
May 29 2014 16:13 GMT
#17
On May 29 2014 21:01 SpunXtain20 wrote:
How the heck is 4GG 16-0 against Dayshi. That's criminal. Dayshi is such a good Terran! Never seen someone have someone else's number so bad...

ForGG was a TvT ringer for a while (not sure if it's been that way in recent months). I guess 16-0 is what you get when you pit someone who is really good at TvT against someone who isn't as good at that match up.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23581 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 16:27:20
May 29 2014 16:19 GMT
#18
So the English stream is UP just not listed here on TL for some reason.... http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_europe

EDIT: Been taken care of, thanks mysterious powers that be ;P
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 29 2014 16:19 GMT
#19
No one making the lr thread
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 29 2014 16:23 GMT
#20
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Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
May 29 2014 17:50 GMT
#21
This is the other "get terrans into Ro16 group" (group C was the other, and even then it didnt work out too well).
Hopefully it works this time...
oblivion awaits- dark archon (aka best unit ever)
jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
May 30 2014 08:05 GMT
#22
well livezerg showed whos the boss is gg!
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Eliv
Profile Joined March 2014
Czech Republic32 Posts
May 30 2014 11:01 GMT
#23
Ro16 full of protoss again. 8 protoss so far with potential for 2 more from the last group D:
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
May 30 2014 11:21 GMT
#24
Another bleak season for Terrans.
Good for LiveZerg and congratz to him, would've preferred two T though.
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