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On April 19 2014 10:16 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2014 10:14 Drake wrote:lets be honest. fantasy and flash just have a bad GSL run time since ... ever ? ^^ all others terrans are eu or us, so stop act like t is weak or somethn  as nearly every pro understand now, terra is STRONG no need for silvers to cry ^^ lol, and that is why terrans are dominating WCS NA and EU, right??? We might have bigger terran names in NA/EU, but the korean protoss and zergs playing in NA/EU are still doing just as good as the big name terrans.
Right, Zerg did really well in NA/EU so far. I mean! They got a single WCS champion in these regions.
Terran did insanely well in these regions the last 12 months, there is not much to argue about that. And of course that's because lots of Terrans switched their region, but it remains a fact that these "Big Name Terrans" did REALLY well (Polt 2x, 1x MMA, 1x MVP).
And Jjakji, Bomber, Polt, MMA and Taeja would all be potential Code S players, and I'm still wondering why only the Terrans switched... The other races haven't lost a single big name in Korea (Maybe Hyun and HerO, but I'd never compare these two to their Terran counterparts tbh. MC dropped out of GSL before he switched, NesTea as well).
Of course 4 Terrans is too extreme and there should be a few more, but generally speaking it's not surprising that the Terrans are underrepresented thanks to the region-hoppers.
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Zest is gonna get an all protoss path to his back to back championship.
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still can hope that no terrans make it to ro16
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bbyong still so underrated by the community, so sad 
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On April 19 2014 22:42 Swisslink wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2014 10:16 vthree wrote:On April 19 2014 10:14 Drake wrote:lets be honest. fantasy and flash just have a bad GSL run time since ... ever ? ^^ all others terrans are eu or us, so stop act like t is weak or somethn as nearly every pro understand now, terra is STRONG no need for silvers to cry ^^ lol, and that is why terrans are dominating WCS NA and EU, right??? We might have bigger terran names in NA/EU, but the korean protoss and zergs playing in NA/EU are still doing just as good as the big name terrans. Right, Zerg did really well in NA/EU so far. I mean! They got a single WCS champion in these regions. Terran did insanely well in these regions the last 12 months, there is not much to argue about that. And of course that's because lots of Terrans switched their region, but it remains a fact that these "Big Name Terrans" did REALLY well (Polt 2x, 1x MMA, 1x MVP). And Jjakji, Bomber, Polt, MMA and Taeja would all be potential Code S players, and I'm still wondering why only the Terrans switched... The other races haven't lost a single big name in Korea (Maybe Hyun and HerO, but I'd never compare these two to their Terran counterparts tbh. MC dropped out of GSL before he switched, NesTea as well). Of course 4 Terrans is too extreme and there should be a few more, but generally speaking it's not surprising that the Terrans are underrepresented thanks to the region-hoppers.
lol, why are you bring up results from WCS 2013 season 1? This was the pre nerf hellbats and pre buff oracles. I am sure if we revert back to those patches, we would have a lot more terrans in GSL.
It is ironic that you don't feel like MC is Code S level when he just soundly defeated both Jjakji and MMA in Bo5 and Bo7 respectively. You don't look at the player's strength when they switch. You look at their strength in the current meta game and maps. MC switched when protosses weren't doing as well. And that is why he was out of GSL.
If you moved all the Koreans back to WCS KR, there is no reason to believe that MC, Alicia, Oz, HerO, San would do any worse then Jjakji, Bomber, Polt, MMA and Taeja.
And there is a pretty obvious reason why more big name terrans switch. Almost all of them were picked up by foreign teams. And since foreign terrans have always be weaker and under represent. It makes sense for the big teams to pick to championship winning korean terrans.
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On April 19 2014 23:23 sharkie wrote:bbyong still so underrated by the community, so sad
Bbyongjwa is god. The masses just don't understand
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On April 19 2014 22:42 Swisslink wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2014 10:16 vthree wrote:On April 19 2014 10:14 Drake wrote:lets be honest. fantasy and flash just have a bad GSL run time since ... ever ? ^^ all others terrans are eu or us, so stop act like t is weak or somethn as nearly every pro understand now, terra is STRONG no need for silvers to cry ^^ lol, and that is why terrans are dominating WCS NA and EU, right??? We might have bigger terran names in NA/EU, but the korean protoss and zergs playing in NA/EU are still doing just as good as the big name terrans. Right, Zerg did really well in NA/EU so far. I mean! They got a single WCS champion in these regions. Terran did insanely well in these regions the last 12 months, there is not much to argue about that. And of course that's because lots of Terrans switched their region, but it remains a fact that these "Big Name Terrans" did REALLY well (Polt 2x, 1x MMA, 1x MVP). And Jjakji, Bomber, Polt, MMA and Taeja would all be potential Code S players, and I'm still wondering why only the Terrans switched... The other races haven't lost a single big name in Korea (Maybe Hyun and HerO, but I'd never compare these two to their Terran counterparts tbh. MC dropped out of GSL before he switched, NesTea as well). Of course 4 Terrans is too extreme and there should be a few more, but generally speaking it's not surprising that the Terrans are underrepresented thanks to the region-hoppers.
You're operating under the false assumption that if all the terrans that switched regions would have remained in Korea, then they'd automatically qualify for GSL Code S. What's to say we couldn't have had MMA, Mvp, Polt or Taeja fall to Code B? I've seen them perform well but not be dominant forces against fellow Koreans, in fact they have even struggled at times, what makes you so sure they are S class?
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All I want now is for the Groups so I can book my day off for INnos group!
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On April 19 2014 11:21 pure.Wasted wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2014 10:43 DBS wrote:
We honestly could have a TvT finals, Maru is always a contender and if Between innovation bbyong and SuNo i think they have a reasonable(ish) chance Speaking as a huge Innovation fan, I don't think he has a snowball's chance in hell. He's a better SC2 Flash - the kind of player who needs a stable meta to be able to excel. Don't forget that in S1 of last year, he was dismantling Soulkey in macro games. It wasn't close. Now he goes 2-1 against Dark? Who the fuck is Dark compared to Soulkey? I won't be a tiny bit surprised to see Inno drop out in ro32.
Soulkey has offdays though, he even loses to foreigners so...
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Really excited for Innovation. Love watching his play.
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On April 20 2014 13:55 OpTiKAiTech wrote:
Really excited for Innovation. Love watching his play.
<3
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One more boring season...
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On April 20 2014 11:09 mikumegurine wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2014 11:21 pure.Wasted wrote:On April 19 2014 10:43 DBS wrote:
We honestly could have a TvT finals, Maru is always a contender and if Between innovation bbyong and SuNo i think they have a reasonable(ish) chance Speaking as a huge Innovation fan, I don't think he has a snowball's chance in hell. He's a better SC2 Flash - the kind of player who needs a stable meta to be able to excel. Don't forget that in S1 of last year, he was dismantling Soulkey in macro games. It wasn't close. Now he goes 2-1 against Dark? Who the fuck is Dark compared to Soulkey? I won't be a tiny bit surprised to see Inno drop out in ro32. Soulkey has offdays though, he even loses to foreigners so...
In his defense, Dark has shown massive ability and talent, he has a massively positive record against Taeja for example, and i think he allkilled either IM or ST
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So happy Stork finally got it.
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Whoa, Squirtle is on there?
I can dig it.
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great! now we have five terrans...what a balanced game..
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wow, I guess GomTvT is long gone now, looks pretty even between P/Z though but T definitely looks like it needs help, time will tell the story of what happens though.
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The most interesting thing about the 4 Terrans is that the 3 Terrans from last season are ALL THERE STILL!
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