Will make necessary changes when line-ups came out. For main team besides Gumiho I think all of them are pretty balanced, for anti team might swap out Trap for someone who won't play in W1.
Zest was in my other teams, gotta keep him in there even if he's so expensive! Hope TAiLS and GuMi get some wins in while Billowy and Yonghwa dont. Will prolly chance this when the lineups are out, but w/e
Prime players seem like a pretty good deal to me since their roster has so few strong players that it's just repeating all the time. Marineking, Creator in particular. Tails just made it to Code S and 2 points seems like a flat out steal. I feel like soO will get played a bit more since he just got 2nd in Code S, again. (koOng? i hope not) Bbyong is nice.
Protoss Power will lead me to victory (if my anti doesn't decide to screw me again)
Putting Byul on anti team always ends in a tragedy.
Especially when he is cri,minally undervalued at 6. he is very much a steal as it is
He went 3-3 last round. Personally I would have him as 7 on the back of his good performance at the beginning of round one.
3-3 isn't that befitting of 7 points, and he doesn't carry the name value of flash (4-5) to be so high. especially if IM feels like fielding either of their startale zergs too
Protoss Power will lead me to victory (if my anti doesn't decide to screw me again)
Putting Byul on anti team always ends in a tragedy.
Especially when he is cri,minally undervalued at 6. he is very much a steal as it is
He went 3-3 last round. Personally I would have him as 7 on the back of his good performance at the beginning of round one.
3-3 isn't that befitting of 7 points, and he doesn't carry the name value of flash (4-5) to be so high. especially if IM feels like fielding either of their startale zergs too
Hmm, I just checked who he played last round. Win vs Departure Win vs Solar Loss vs sOs Loss vs Bbyong Win vs Stats Loss vs Rain.
So his wins aren't very impressive. I'm inclined to agree with you now.
Protoss Power will lead me to victory (if my anti doesn't decide to screw me again)
Putting Byul on anti team always ends in a tragedy.
Especially when he is cri,minally undervalued at 6. he is very much a steal as it is
He went 3-3 last round. Personally I would have him as 7 on the back of his good performance at the beginning of round one.
3-3 isn't that befitting of 7 points, and he doesn't carry the name value of flash (4-5) to be so high. especially if IM feels like fielding either of their startale zergs too
Hmm, I just checked who he played last round. Win vs Departure Win vs Solar Loss vs sOs Loss vs Bbyong Win vs Stats Loss vs Rain.
So his wins aren't very impressive. I'm inclined to agree with you now.
You guys have a point. He is probably right at 6 - I still have the Byul of round 1 fresh on my mind, that's probably why my initial reaction was that 6 seemed way too low.
Protoss Power will lead me to victory (if my anti doesn't decide to screw me again)
Putting Byul on anti team always ends in a tragedy.
Especially when he is cri,minally undervalued at 6. he is very much a steal as it is
He went 3-3 last round. Personally I would have him as 7 on the back of his good performance at the beginning of round one.
3-3 isn't that befitting of 7 points, and he doesn't carry the name value of flash (4-5) to be so high. especially if IM feels like fielding either of their startale zergs too
Hmm, I just checked who he played last round. Win vs Departure Win vs Solar Loss vs sOs Loss vs Bbyong Win vs Stats Loss vs Rain.
So his wins aren't very impressive. I'm inclined to agree with you now.
You guys have a point. He is probably right at 6 - I still have the Byul of round 1 fresh on my mind, that's probably why my initial reaction was that 6 seemed way too low.
I expect Byul to simply lose, that is all. Also, I think any IM player on anti is a good choice, since they'll be rotating a lot I think since they have such a sick expanded roster now.
Byun/Barbie - not enough points, why Maru so good?! >< Life - I think it is good choice for 3 points... Maru - heart choice. The bestest player there, cold blooded killer etc. Parting - I hope he gives his play together and starts playing, so a good choice, because he is undervalued IMHO Squirtle - the same reason as Parting Jin Air GW - heart choice!
HerO/Keen/Yonghwa - I just bet that because of the huge roster of IM/MVP they will not play so often :-)
As usual, I will probably be too lazy to trade anyone, so notrade go! :-)
Alright, let's try to beat my previous team that went back and forth between #50 and #200 No line-ups makes it pretty hard to chose though... Oh and seriously. TAiLS 2 points? Rogue 3 points? Bilowy 3 points? Yes please!
This is going to be my best FPL season ever. After getting killed 3 seasons in a row due to my anti-team. I'm pretty sure this time my team will wreck my anti-team's score no doubt.
This is also the first time, that i really have thought about the lineup ;
Anti Team 7 Hydra 3 Leenock 3 Reality Plenty of shuffling will occur before it starts, especially when week one lineups are released. I don't really like having Flash, will probably swap for Super and pick up a point elsewhere. I have faith that Solar can bounce back from an abysmal round 2. Rogue/Billowy slightly undervalued. Bbyong is the only player with his kind of win loss that isn't 7+ points. Only knock against him is herO steals all the ace matches. Terminator is the only 1 pointer who won a game last round iirc. He was also sent out 3 times (huge for a 1 point value) and plays for a good team. Not sure about the anti. Leenock is good but I'm not sure if he's in proleague form, and Prime loses a lot. Hydra isn't bad, but overrated at 7. Reality just never plays and is on a weak team. I might swap him for effort not sure.
Action seems to be doing well in qualifiers recently so hopefully KT let's him play a bit instead of going with Flash/Zest/Stats/TY every match. FanTaSy seems to finally be getting somewhere in Starcraft 2. Flash always does good atleast in ProLeague. Leenock will probably get quite a few games on Prime. Shine hopefully get's more playtime then he did in Round 2 so he can show his dominance he had in Round 1 where he was 1 of the best zergs win/loss-wise. TAiLS with him getting into Code S could be a main player for MVP. KT Rolster as team as KT is best KT.
going with a full anti-Incredible Miracle/StarTale/Team Liquid's HerO/Planetkey Dynamics Oz as i wasn't that impressed by them in Round 1 or 2 so far.
Only thing I dislike about your team lichter is the Cure anti and picking Avenge when TAiLS costs the same. TAiLS is a bargain at that price and a bit more proven than Avenge when it comes to PL, but who knows maybe Avenge can become a really solid P for Jin Air to back up $O$ and I'll be made to look silly.
But man, I see a Flash and a Creator anti, some people got balls of steel. Wonder when the first RorO anti is going to turn up *cough*Zealously*cough*
Whoa! I felt like my team was so well thought out.. then I checked this thread.. everyone has very carefully selected teams... Hopefully my anti team took care of any upsets headed proleagues way :D
As for Guilty... I've been watching him in brackets .. he has been going 2-0 against every one he has played( except against.. you know the person who beats him out of w/e bracket he is in), I am surprised he hasn't made a scene yet.. had to add him to my team :D
Let's see how terribly I do this time. I forgot that my strategy was going to be to stalk TT1 and copy what he did, but I forgot to do that - so I'm forced to make my own terrible choices.
i went with players that i like alot, for some reason they all happen to be zergs.. . my real lineup is probably gonna be completely different
edit: oh yea and the 1 pters are really stacked this round O_O, terminator and curious for 1 point!? depending on the lineups i might end up doing a really front loaded team
the good thing about skt1 doing bad last round is that they're at a discounted price this round. i think they're also due for a bounce back round, especially with their stacked roster.
Betting on prime, Mkp, creator, leenock the great trio that will give me points. Sos or another 8 pointer to carry my team. Others, wildcards.
Anti is easy the first week. 100÷ will change depending on who doesn't play the first week. You should not incur any losses from anti on your first week.
Finally maru, fantasy, zest and flash have values that reflect their play and how much they play.
#1 and captain : KT Flash i dont think i need to explain here..... Just one word GOD #2 MVP DongRaeGu : The Final boss, by far the best player in MVP and he will play every ace match #3 IM HerO : Im not sure if HerO is gonna do great, but he is one of the best in IM and my favorite toss of all time <3 #4 Samsung Solar: With Roro, he is the best player of samsung so he will play a lot, but he is a big guess. #5 SKT SoO : 2 times GSL finalist and only 4 points? he is a steal IMO #6 ByunPrime 0 point and with the really bad line up of Prime, he has chance Team: SKT only 4 points, cant believe they will miss series 2 time in a row
Anti Team #1 Jin Cure : i think he is a bit overrated, and not making code S probably destroyed his confidence #2 MVP Sniper : biggest patch zerg in history, did nothing since his GSL win with winfestors era #3 IM Yonghwa: dont really know the guy, i hope i will not know him more after this season
I always have an easy time picking for the main team, but a terrible time picking for Anti-team. Cure, Shine, and TRUE, I have nothing against you guys. TT
My initial draft since. I'm probably gonna change when the rosters are up like everyone else but for now I'm pinning my hopes on on my 3 big hitters and that sOs plays like shit when there isn't 100k on the line. :D
On April 11 2014 05:58 Ensiferum8 wrote: Main Team
#1 and captain : KT Flash i dont think i need to explain here..... Just one word GOD #2 MVP DongRaeGu : The Final boss, by far the best player in MVP and he will play every ace match #3 IM HerO : Im not sure if HerO is gonna do great, but he is one of the best in IM and my favorite toss of all time <3 #4 Samsung Solar: With Roro, he is the best player of samsung so he will play a lot, but he is a big guess. #5 SKT SoO : 2 times GSL finalist and only 4 points? he is a steal IMO #6 ByunPrime 0 point and with the really bad line up of Prime, he has chance Team: SKT only 4 points, cant believe they will miss series 2 time in a row
Anti Team #1 Jin Cure : i think he is a bit overrated, and not making code S probably destroyed his confidence #2 MVP Sniper : biggest patch zerg in history, did nothing since his GSL win with winfestors era #3 IM Yonghwa: dont really know the guy, i hope i will not know him more after this season
Look at soo's 2 previous rounds, he did terribly and he was 6 points, that's why he was lowered to 4 pts. He was a great anti pick last season. SPL performance != individual league performance in the cases of soo, mvp, flash, terminator, paralyze, parting, etc. Byun is 0 pts because he will not be fielded (most likely). I'm actually inclined to put solar on my team as well because his performance last round was a fluke and he should be worth it if he plays at 50÷ of his round 1 ability
Took Billowy/Rogue since I felt they were low for their value. Billowy just all-killed KT, so he may see increased play. Rogue is an up and comer Zerg who gets a lot of play on Jin-Air. 3 points feel like a steal for each.
Avenge and Leenock are question marks. Jin Air's roster is small, so Avenge could get some play. Not sure what form he's in. Leenock should get a lot of play on Prime, and could even get Ace play.
Flash and DRG are obvious. Both are likely to play ace every match, as well as in the main lineups.
MVP as my team, since I have some of their players and they did well last round.
Hydra on anti since he is the worst of the high-point players, IMO. Even if he wins he is unlikely to play ace. I'll be switching out Soo for SNIPER.
Main Team 1 SKT Paralyze (Captain) (He just got into Code S, he is only one point AND he is on SKT1 so hopefully I will pull in some points when they win :-D) 3 IM Life (thinking about changing this one, I love Life but he is honestly much better suited to extended series vs BO1s) 3 Jin air Rogue (I find it hilarious that he is only 3 points, I am expecting him to bring in a lot of points this round. After I saw his burrow movement game on Yeonsu in the First round of PL I feel in love with this guy's play.) 3 MVP Billowy (following the hype I suppose, and MVP is doing decently) 10 Jin air Maru (the Power of BL-infestor Terran be with me!) 6 SKT Classic (please don't go straight into tempests in PvT ever again :-P) 4 SK Telecom T1 (I picked them last round and they failed me, but I think they are a pretty solid pick at only 4 points)
Anti-Team 7 CJ Hydra (never been very impressed by Hydra's games honestly. He is very Solid mechanically, but I don't see much finesse when I watch him play [link me a vod if you think I am wrong plox]) 4 IM Yongwha (his play had looked rather gimmicky and weak to me lately, we'll see if he comes back into stride) 2 MVP Shine (never been impressed by his play and I doubt he will even play given how good the Rest of MVP's lineup is atm)
Also, I am a total noob at posting on TL, so that's why I don't have the TLPDs linked to the player names. I am guessing the best strategy is to put the list of players down --> TLPD-ize it --> add commentary if you want?
Main Team 3 Billowy Dat all-kill 1 Dark A one point player in code S? (Also on SKT for point farming) this also applies to paralyze 7 DongRaeGu (captain) MVP is looking strong, so is DRG 8 Flash It's Flash 1 ParalyzE See Dark 6 Soulkey SKT's finest (in my opinion) 4 SK Telecom T1 Rounding out my SKT-Centric roster also a bit underpriced if they get over their round 2 slump (like they should)
Anti Team 3 aLive I don't think he'll ever play 6 Cure(Speed) Bottom of his code A group, seems a bit overpriced/need a 6 cost guy 4 Stork Also don't think he'll ever play
Rogue is CRIMINALLY undervalued that it's ridiculous.
Just look at his numbers in the previous two rounds.
He finished 11th and T-13th in points in rounds 1 and 2 respectively. All this for 3pts? I mean yeah he could crap the bed all the sudden but based on previous information no way should he be 3pts.
Main Team 6 Bbyong (captain) he just showedamazing consistency both in proleague and code a (hes going code s too) 3 Life had good gsl run, his zergling control is over the roof (so is his early game zvt). i hope he crushes fantasy. 3 Rogue(Savage) no brainer for 3pts, will play every match 7 RorO ahhh yeah, he plays twice this week hopefully he aces too. 4 soO might end up traiding him when hes benched, but he plays week1 and hes been gsl runner-up for 2 seasons. 1 Terminator 1 pointer for jin air, even if he loses hell bring team wins + he might be seeded more than once. needed a toss 6 KT Rolster most consistent team in PL Anti Team 3 Hurricane i might trade him 3 hyvaa doubt he will see play time 7 Super risky pick, i might change my mind since he's killed me last round (without his -19 i woulve been top 20)
Bbyong: He had a solid 5-1 record from the previous round; Maru also was 5-1 last round, but he's more expensive at 10 points. The only downside with Bbyong is that herO will most certainly always be the ace for CJ Entus. Rogue: He's a solid zerg who plays often for Jin Air and he's only 3 points?? Total steal. RorO: Also a solid zerg. Because I feel like he may not justify 7 points, I'll probably end up switching him out for someone else. Any suggestions? TAiLS: Just advanced into Code S. HIs wacky play style is a perfect fit for Bo1 in Proleague. Besides, he was cheap for 2 points. Terminator: Due to my relatively expensive roster, I needed a solid 1 point player. I chose Terminator because he's on Jin Air (thus he'll gain a point for each time they win) and for a 1 point player, he gets sent out a lot. That's great! Trap: A solid Protoss for IM who gets sent out often despite IM's deep roster. His record for Round 2 was 4-1, a good record. CJ Entus: I was gonna either choose MVP or CJ Entus, but I stuck with CJ because of herO. Might change my mind later.
Bunny: I'm betting on him not getting sent out a lot, if at all. Keen: Though Keen does get sent out pretty often, he typically does not do well. His record in Round 2 was 2-2. Yongwha: Terrible record of 1-3 last round. Enough said.
What do you think of my team? Any suggestions or anybody I should switch out?
Action: He's gaining momentum! Just check his GSL qualifier run. FanTaSy: With Widow Mines buff and having a pretty cool hybrid of bio and mech, he's definitely going to get far. Maru: Most winning player and Jin Air's Ace. Why not? Rogue: Thanks for making this guy cheap, TL. I never understood why other players like those in my anti-team are more expensive. Solar: He's making a comeback. Again, check his GSL run! If only Samsung would stop fielding him against Flash LOL TAiLS: He may be a dark horse, but he does deliver time to time. You just never know with this guy. CJ Entus: With herO being a reliable ace, Bbyong becoming a great supporting player, it will only be a matter of time when Coach Park will whip up the rest of the roster like Hydra back to championship state. (I'm still debating whether to get SK_T1, but we'll see...)
soO: Good as a series player, but he's extremely unreliable as a clutch player. Squirtle: Eh... He's a good player, but he's still not as reliable as a 5-point player. Yonghwa: Why does even IM have much faith in him? Trust me. I placed this guy on my main team so many times, and oh boy, was I wrong to do so.
Well, I did horrible R1, did pretty good in R2, so I'm feeling good about my chances winning R3! Gogo!
MAIN: aLive - He's a solid Terran who I am hoping will play a lot for MVP since they don't have an especially deep roster. Fantasy - He was my cheap pick last round that ended up coming up huge for me, and his wacky but effective builds were really fun to watch. And it seemed like BO1 people just couldn't figure out what to do against him, and SKT seem committed to putting him out there quite a bit, and I expect a bounce back for them this round. herO - I've had him on my FPL team every round so far and he's just my favorite player. Gotta love him playing every day for CJ and is consistently thrown out as ace (and does pretty damn good in ace matches also) Solar - Just stomped his Code S group so I'm expecting a major bounce back for him this round, and he was cheap at 3 pts. soO - recent trip to the GSL finals, and is a very underrated player. Cheap at 3 pts so figured I'd grab him. TAiLS - Just advanced to Code S and I really needed someone at 2 pts or less I thought had a good chance to play and on a decent team. MVP did solid R2 betting on them keeping that up and TAiLS getting some more playing time, which MVP seem to think is a good idea as he's out there for the first match. IM - Needed a 3 pt or less team and IM seems like a solid roster even though they didn't do so well last round. I feel like they have so many players that not having a consistent lineup is really screwing with them, hoping they figure out a solid core this round and bounce back.
ANTI Creator - He was the bane of my FPL team last round, following the trend that TY laid before him. TY collapsed last round so I'm betting that happens again to Creator this round. I don't think he's nearly as good as his record last round showed, and PRIME never winning any games certainly helps. Not to mention he costs 8 pts and allows me to pick up some super scrubs with my other picks Terror - Do I have to explain this pick? Yonghwa - He had a terrible record last round and with IM's roster being so large and with the addition of Oz I don't really think he's going to play all that much in R3. Needed 4 pts and thought he was a little overrated.
Main Team 6 Bbyong Have to pay a good amount of pts for a Terran this round imo since I'm not confident in any of the Terrans under 6 pts. Ended up picking Bbyong since he has been playing well as of late, showing that he should be fielded regularly unless CJ wants to lose 3 Life Life at 3 pts is a steal. 3 Rogue(Savage) Rogue at 3 pts is even more of a steal. Best value pick imo. Everyone should have him on their team. Consistent playing time and good results. Weird that he's valued lower than he was last round. 7 RorO Consistent playing time and results, which I like to get from my expensive players. 6 Soulkey Soulkey at 6 pts is another steal imo. Could definitely outperform the more expensive players if given the chance (played earlier in the match instead of last in case SKT1 loses) and has a good chance of being ace player. 1 Terminator (captain) 1 pt that plays and is on a good team. 4 SK Telecom T1 Hoping for a bounce back round.
Ill start with Anti Team. Both Keen and Squirtle have really tough matchups in Creator and Parting for the first week and Solar is nowhere to be seen.
For me Flash and MarineKing are a bit fanboyish and are more with the heart than the head . Everyone else though plays twice with the exception of Terminator, but hes just a filler that is capable of winning, not bad for 1 point.
Byul is the real deal and plays in 100% of IM's matches, though Soulkey is a difficult opponent and IM only plays once this week. Life is a steal at 3 points and even though Fantasy keeps beating him I can't help but feel like Life should still be winning. He should finally get the terrorist off his back this week and hopefully play more this round...or else his ass is gone. RorO I'm banking on killing it in the first week, then I might trade him away. Same for Maru. Curious and Barbie are just there for 1 and 0 point respectively (Curious might actually do something though).
Hurricane isn't too great and probably won't see toooo much action. Stats is the best I could get for 7 points. Even though he'll probably beat Terminator this week and plays often for KT I've just never been that impressed by him. Sora barely plays for CJ anymore and isn't quite as scary as before. Overall, I think I have a good anti.
On April 11 2014 17:35 TT1 wrote: i dunno if i should pick roro + terminator or soulkey + tails o.O
2 code b players vs 2 code s players?
don't listen to me though i suck at this
i find tails really overrated tho, skillwise i'd rather have terminator tbh but tails has an easy w1 match. roro has easy matches too and hes always guaranteed to be khans ace. sk is better than roro but he probably wont play every week and t1 has alot of aces
They've played Solar at ace before, though. Do you believe there might be an increase in frequency of Solar being used as the ace with his recent results?
My main players (rogue,maru,zest and bbyong) all play 2 times this week and i am confident that they all can win both games. My anti team isn't that thought out, will probably change something there..
On April 11 2014 17:52 Shellshock wrote: They've played Solar at ace before, though. Do you believe there might be an increase in frequency of Solar being used as the ace with his recent results?
would be odd seeing as hes not even in their w1 lineup
On April 11 2014 17:52 Shellshock wrote: They've played Solar at ace before, though. Do you believe there might be an increase in frequency of Solar being used as the ace with his recent results?
would be odd seeing as hes not even in their w1 lineup
Hush at his current 3-0 is an underpriced asset at 1 ^_^ Love for zest is endless <3 got me so many points for the previous fpl, even 9 is worth it. Beliving that life always finds a way gonna kill me. so why not fantasy on antiteam?
I am just bad at this, and have never done well at FPL. Parting is Parting, and Byong earned me the most points last round, so I am sticking with them. Choya costs 1 and beat Pet 2-1 recently, who would have expected that. Stork on anti-team will probably be costly for me...
This is really risky, mut may work. Maru, Creator and HerO are my main point scorers. The there are my lower end players, but they all are playing on first week, so price-quality is good. If they win I can get better players out of them Anti-team is all-in too. i hope that SKT is not gonna play Rain and Classic since they are not playing now...
Avenge is a familiar name I know of, DRG is back on form and is thus a good pick, hyvaa is a pretty good player in the right environment, Soulkey is an obvious choice as he was the most consistent player of 2013 and no slouch in 2014, Yonghwa is a well known IM player and eins is a no-name player I chose because I need a Terran to complete the lineup.
Jin Air Green Wings is also one of the strongest teams in Proleague at the moment. I'm no longer sticking to my guns and keeping with SK Telecom T1.
The anti-team is just players who I think won't do that well. It was a tough pick.
So i took maru because he's maru. Reality is playing twice this week and has look solid. Rouge is a steal for 3 points and has doable matchups. RorO has great matchups this week. Tails has an easy opponent, Terminator was only one point (mistake?) and is playing this week, good enough for me. And SKT T1 because i feel that while they did underperform last round, they are undervalued points wise.
Anti Team
Hero and Yonghwa arn't playing this week and are on LGIM, which has so many players they probably won't get much playtime. and i can always switch them next week. And i really think Keen is overvalued at 5 points, and he's playing once this week vs creator, who should be able to take Keen out.
Ok actual team much harder to make than rough draft with no Leenock or aLive featuring in week 1. Rogue and TAiLS being dirt cheap make them must haves. Maru was too expensive to have as captain so I had to sadly say no to him in my team, instead replacing him with Protoss bonjwa Zest.
soO finally seeing action after his GSL 2nd place, hopefully his ZvP has gotten better and he beats Trap but for 4 points he's a nice choice. I needed a Terran and with Maru/Flash/TY being very expensive and MKP being a tad bit shaky in form at times it pretty much left me with FanTaSy or Bbyong and given Bbyong's current form and the fact he plays twice while FanTaSy only features once this week with SKT's only match I settled on Bbyong. I just hope he doesn't drop into his IEM Sao Paulo form and lose to people he should beat.
With 6 points left and not wanting to settle with any 1 pointers, I split it into two 3s and gave them all to IM. I still think IM have a lot of depth and should be able to do well should they pick the right players this round so team pick to them (I did want Jin Air as they're my favourite KeSPA team but too expensive QQ.) With 3 points left and not many players left to pick, I saw Life there at 3 and thought "k lets try this again" with him reaching the semis of the GSL last season I honestly think IM might send him out more and his morale got a boost from beating based Maru.
Anti team - No Sora for CJ and as much as I love Sora he's been off form and I don't think Coach Park will send him out much (even Hush is being sent out before him)
Originally I was going to pick HerO as a 4 pointer but if one thing killed me in Round 2 it was the amount of trades I did so I instead settled on CJ Terran Bunny as HerO has plenty of chances to come out and win for IM whereas I don't see Bunny frequenting much for CJ as they have a solid lineup in herO, Hydra, Bbyong and maybe EffOrt if he can find some kind of form this round.
Getting left with 6 points for the anti is a scary scary thing as there's a lot of monsters who can make or break you, last season I got lucky in the fact SKT never seemed to use soO much and when they did, he lost. When I looked through the 6 pointers I cried a little inside: Soulkey, PartinG, FanTaSy, Classic, Cure, ByuL and Bbyong. Bbyong was on my main, 1 guy down. Soulkey just aced his Code A group: Nope. PartinG and FanTaSy, PartinG is godly when he wants to be, FanTaSy had a solid round last time out: NOPE.
Classic and Cure. Cure dropped down to Code B in spectacular fashion but unlike Classic he's being fielded week 1 and I don't want to take risks at his TvZ being better than Maru's so just going to settle on SKT's non fielded and probably weakest (if you exclude ParalyzE) Protoss Classic
The one and only overpowered team. Ready to gather them points. Let's hope fore a Byun revival
My main team plays a lot of matches in round1, and hopefully some aces. Reasonably cheap but good players who will get fielded a lot. Byun because 0 poins. herO as captain because he's really good. Last round he had a crappy start but came back and gave me a lot of points anyway. So he can deal with losses as a true captain should.
My antiteam will hopefully not get used much. Classic could backfire but the alternatives were also pretty good players.
I wish there would be FPL coaching or sth like that because my choices feel so random
Especially my anti-team, my best strategy seems to be "pick a highly valued player that will lose twice this week + 2 randoms that don't/rarely play", if the "high value" player loses, then his value drops significantly and I can trade for someone who preferably doesn't play/is generally bad and my anti does OK from that point. However, if my initial pick does well in his matches, I'm pretty much screwed as I will never trade them, so it's basically a gamble - I get either close to 0 negative points or -30.
I also tried to pick players that DON'T play (like DRG this week), but then their value doesn't drop too much and next week I usually have to trade them, often for someone equally scary. Alternatively I could try to go for 5+4+4 points but it didn't work for me before.
I guess I should analyze the anti-teams of previous rounds' winners and how they did it but I'm too dumb for that...
Hoping for Parting and Soulkey to wreck some face again. Zest will wreck face. Rouge best wreck for buck and TAiLS wrecked his hair once which is almost face. ByuN might be in jail for some actual facewrecking for all I know. I would not mind if Fanta wrecked his heart out so it's a win-win. If Bunny and hyvaa ever will be fielded well then they gonna get won against so hard.
EDIT: changed team I realized Rain was a bad pick for the anti team and put Super instead, who isn't playing in the first week. I also thought Maru costed too much, and got Roro and Fantasy instead.
Avenge is a familiar name I know of, DRG is back on form and is thus a good pick, hyvaa is a pretty good player in the right environment, Soulkey is an obvious choice as he was the most consistent player of 2013 and no slouch in 2014, Yonghwa is a well known IM player and eins is a no-name player I chose because I need a Terran to complete the lineup.
Jin Air Green Wings is also one of the strongest teams in Proleague at the moment. I'm no longer sticking to my guns and keeping with SK Telecom T1.
The anti-team is just players who I think won't do that well. It was a tough pick.
Super on Anti was what killed me last season, along with MKP.
I wanted to do the cutest team ever with 1 Prime, 4 MKP, 10 Maru, 8 sOs, 3 Rogue, 4 HerO and 0 Barbie as captain but the two last players aren't in the lineup so I will go with : October 11
i hope i can trade roro for zest or cj hero after he won 2 games this week. i will probably also trade dream. i don't really believe in his skill but he is a starter against a weak player this week.
I figured fuck it. i'll take two 0 pointers and put points somewhere else. I'm hoping KT sees the light and just lets Zest play the ace matches. Rain seemed like an ok 7 pointer for anti because he has a losing record in proleague and doesn't play consistently for SKT. Plus they keep losing so he wont even pick up that many team wins especially after losing Hyuk. Going double injustice with hyvaa and Sniper on anti because I'm not going to win anyways so maybe having them on anti will help players I like win.
MarineKing because he's badass, cheap for a 50% ace and always plays, plus I needed a Terran. Captain because there's not any other Terran I would/ could trade him for.
Rogue, plays twice in the first week with doable matchups and he's undercosted. I don't like him but he might prove to be good value.
RorO, god knows he's not anti-team material. A bit costly, but he plays twice with good matchups and he's his team's ace.
SoO, so cheap at 4 points and he's actually on T1's roster for a change. Bit of a gamble but you don't win by playing safe!
Soulkey, I always pick Soulkey, plus now he's actually pretty cheap too
TAiLS, best of the rest in terms of 2-pointers and I needed a Protoss. He's doing well in GSL and is actually on the roster for a change, hoping he's the hero I need and deserve.
SKT1, they're just so gewd at 4 points!
Anti:
Bunny, who's that? Keen, overpriced at 5 points imo TRUE, I can't remember, who is this again? Probably bad.
Man it's 29 points for main team. Here's my dilemma: I really want players that play as many games this week, and that have the most potential to win. - Roro is indispensable as a week 1 starter. Plays twice, 2 easy games, potential ace. The best pick this week. - Rogue plays twice, also indispensable. - MKP has an easy game. - Bbyong plays twice, should win at least 1.
- I really liked what pangpootata is saying about Soulkey. He's a great long term player to have. I hate having Soulkey (or any 6+ pointer from SKT on my main) because they don't play consistently every week. This week SKT only plays once and has a hard game against Byul. But if Soulkey comes as ace and wins it like he did at least once last season, I would kick myself for not getting him.
After these choices, I have 4 points left. 1 went to Prime an 2 went to Tails because Tails has a winnable game. I don't really think Samsung can win either of their games with their lineup, so I picked Prime. But this leaves me with 1 point to spare. I could kick Soulkey out and have 7 points now to spare, but I already got the best 7 point pick in Roro on my team (DRG and Super aren't even playin this week, and Hydra is really not worth it 7).
So I might even go forward with a team that has 29 points.
Man it's 29 points for main team. Here's my dilemma: I really want players that play as many games this week, and that have the most potential to win. - Roro is indispensable as a week 1 starter. Plays twice, 2 easy games, potential ace. The best pick this week. - Rogue plays twice, also indispensable. - MKP has an easy game. - Bbyong plays twice, should win at least 1.
- I really liked what pangpootata is saying about Soulkey. He's a great long term player to have. I hate having Soulkey (or any 6+ pointer from SKT on my main) because they don't play consistently every week. This week SKT only plays once and has a hard game against Byul. But if Soulkey comes as ace and wins it like he did at least once last season, I would kick myself for not getting him.
After these choices, I have 4 points left. 1 went to Prime an 2 went to Tails because Tails has a winnable game. I don't really think Samsung can win either of their games with their lineup, so I picked Prime. But this leaves me with 1 point to spare. I could kick Soulkey out and have 7 points now to spare, but I already got the best 7 point pick in Roro on my team (DRG and Super aren't even playin this week, and Hydra is really not worth it 7).
So I might even go forward with a team that has 29 points.
So my first FPL team was an absolute joke, and I knew it would be because it was my first time trying it out, hence the name "Doge Party". But I'm feeling much better about this round. Introducing DogeParty v2.0:
Captain choice: I feel like this doesn't need too much explanation. This man has been a monster and, as far as I've seen, a very consistent performer. He's got a pretty tough opponent in sOs this first week, but I'm very confident in him, and he's sure to wipe out TurN later this week. I'm not sure how many ace matches he'll see due to Flash and TY being his teammates, but we'll see what happens.
Members Dream and TAiLS: For the price of these players and the statistics that greatly favor them against their opponents, I feel like Dream and TAiLS were easy choices, if only for this first round. Also, my cheapest member last round was State. No offense to him at all-I'd love to see him play this round and not get cheesed-but I feel like TAiLS will actually get more opportunities to play in comparison.
Rogue and soO: Absolute bargains. Being a Code S finalist and only 4 points, soO seems like another no-brainer. Rogue took out a couple of my players last round and I enjoyed watching him play. At only 3 points, he was an easy pick. I don't think he'll see much of a challenge out of Action or EffOrt, honestly, and he will definitely be fielded just about every week.
MarineKing: It's MKP. Come on. I should've picked him last round, at least that's what my heart was saying, but my brain said "Pick MVP because he beats MKP." and that helped me sooo much...
Anti Team---
Yongwha: He's not playing this week, and even though I see him as a strong Protoss, I'd rather put my money on HerO, but I'm pretty biased.
Cure: He's on here because I believe Hydra will beat him, make him go down a few points, and let me pick a lower costing player to put here.
Shine: I don't like him. My first time actually watching him play was last round, and I was just disappointed. He just doesn't look like a player I can put my faith in, either. I probably just don't like him because I jumped on a hype train about him since he did so well the round before and I ended up with goose egg points. Negative goose egg points, at that.
TLDR: Zest is my captain, I picked good players (MarineKing is good despite being on Prime) and Anti-Shine all day. glhfgg no re ^^
Toughest picks were the last two - 8 points left for 1 player and a team. Didn't really like Prime plus a 7pointer (wtf DRG Super and Rain all not being fielded week 1; and I'm not sold on trap or hydra's cost). Also, there are few good 2 pointers to pair with JinAir or KT (eins, gumiho, action? no thanks) So I decided on 4+4. SKT bit of a risk after their slump and CJ/MVP's rise, and Stork too, but Samsung coach seems to love fielding him even when his record isn't great, and hey Flash's vP is kinda sucky. (see: last time he faced Stork in PL, and round 2 playoffs vs Billowy lol)
Considering swapping Stork for Dream though. Dream has only one match, but it's vs DeParture (aka he's practically guaranteed to win)
Pretty happy with my anti. Cure/Bunny at 4 and Sniper/Sora/Hurricane at 3 are tossups imo. I think you people picking Keen and Fantasy for anti are really playing with fire, yeah they don't have the best record for their cost but they are getting playing time (means the coach has confidence in them for some reason) and if they win these first few games either of them could easily become a lineup regular, or even an occasional ace.
Your three anti-team players are likely to rake in a bunch of team victory points since Jin Air and MVP are both likely to win the majority of their matches.
Your three anti-team players are likely to rake in a bunch of team victory points since Jin Air and MVP are both likely to win the majority of their matches.
Main team: I took Fantasy as my team captain because i think his performance last season was promising and that he'll be able to increase his value this season if he only gets a little more consistent. And he is one who is regular in SKTs line up which tells that iveloov has confidence in him for some reason. In addition he seems to be very motivated to to well and since he is a member of SKT he will probably focus on the Proleague. Bbyong had very good games in the last season and he did well in the GSL until he got eliminated. So expect him to perform even better this season and hopefully CJ will be able to transform the potential of their impressive line up into results this season so that Bbyong grinds some additional points for me. Effort is likely to win his game this week and after that ill probably replace him with life oder Hyvaa. Reality has good chances of winning some games in the upcoming matches, is a very solid and patient player and he is one of the 3 pointers with enormous potential. What is more he is just awesome because he has the balls to play straight mech. Tails is cheap and he will win his game vs Salvation. He is generally one of those players which are good at preparing specific all ins to kill opponents who are much stronger than them in a straight up game. Ill probably trade him for another protoss - as i need at least one - , if he gets a match up giving him very poor chances of winning. Soulkey is only at 6 by now, which is much less than he is capable of. I am betting on him overcoming his recent slump and performing well again. If he does so, it will be an exceptional pleasure. SKT for just 4 points is a great deal even if the team was in a slump last round. Their roster is still very strong and coaches as well as players will want to make sure that they perform better than last round as they are used to be at the top.
My anti team is maybe a bit of a gamble. Keen is one of those who could beat anyone on a good day. So i am counting on his inconsistency and, regarding the match vs Creator, the strenght of the opponents he'll face. Yonghwa was again quite succesfull in Code A but i hope that the difference between his individual performance and his performance in Proleague is at least as significant as in the past 2 seasons. At last, there is Stork who seems to be off his little performance peak and will surely loose his first game this week.
Fantasy isn't that good and classic doesn't play this week Rogue and MarineKing are cheap and will play a lot Leenock because LEENOCK Maru and Soulkey as always Terminator is a real steal for 1 point plus he is playing PvP this week IM cause only 3 points left
Choices: I chose TY as captain (might as well, since I won't trade) and as my high pointer, because I think he is the best value for 8 points. He is only playing once in the first week, but I expect him to play every match thereafter, since I suspect Zest to soon be slumping due to champion's lazyness. I also chose him over Flash since I think he is just better, and judging by their first matches, they'll both win one match in the first week. ByuL is a little undervalued at 6 imho. IM is too stacked to invest so many points in a single of their players, but he is the one player I think has the best chance to play quite regularly for them - if round 1 Byul shows up instead of round 2 Byul that is, but his Code A match makes me optimistic about this. MarineKing surprised me last round, he will show up in ace matches at least occasionally and should easily recover a good amount of points for the investment, even if I don't expect him to have a stellar win percentage going forward. Reality and Rogue are players I'm a little surprised at in that they are so cheap. Both are regulars on their respective teams and not too bad at all. Rogue is very talented and Reality excels at preparing builds for maps, and with his elimination from GSL now has all the time to do so for SPL. TAiLS is cheesy and good in preparation, and I think he can snipe a few games for MVP. He should also net a few points for being on MVP, if they can keep up their crazy run. Good investment for a mere two points. SKT, despite not doing too well last round just underperformed and is thus a good deal at 4 points right now, especially compared to the teams in that price region (I was looking for 3 to 5 pointers). The anti team is usually where I have a really hard time to make my picks, but this time around I found it quite easy. Trap is never worth the 7 points compared to the other players at that point level, not in a thousand years. Add to that that he is a rotational player at best for IM, and he makes a good anti pick. I have no idea how Bunny ended up being worth 4 points, but I'll take it - if asked without looking at the ratings, I would have guessed him at 2 points. eins...yeah....he took a game, sure, but that was luck, so thanks for bumping him up to two points from zero.
On April 12 2014 07:32 Zealously wrote: Trap was IM's best player in R2, going 4-1
True, but that was against illustrous players like Effort, True and Kassia. His only noteworthy win was versus DRG. I probably underestimate him, but he just doesn't hit my spider senses as a good choice for 7 points
Man it's 29 points for main team. Here's my dilemma: I really want players that play as many games this week, and that have the most potential to win. - Roro is indispensable as a week 1 starter. Plays twice, 2 easy games, potential ace. The best pick this week. - Rogue plays twice, also indispensable. - MKP has an easy game. - Bbyong plays twice, should win at least 1.
- I really liked what pangpootata is saying about Soulkey. He's a great long term player to have. I hate having Soulkey (or any 6+ pointer from SKT on my main) because they don't play consistently every week. This week SKT only plays once and has a hard game against Byul. But if Soulkey comes as ace and wins it like he did at least once last season, I would kick myself for not getting him.
After these choices, I have 4 points left. 1 went to Prime an 2 went to Tails because Tails has a winnable game. I don't really think Samsung can win either of their games with their lineup, so I picked Prime. But this leaves me with 1 point to spare. I could kick Soulkey out and have 7 points now to spare, but I already got the best 7 point pick in Roro on my team (DRG and Super aren't even playin this week, and Hydra is really not worth it 7).
So I might even go forward with a team that has 29 points.
Do you really think IM can even take it to ace against SKT though? I see a 1-3 at worst for SKT, possibly a 3-0. SoulKey looked solid as ever today, Parting wiped the floor with Squirtle last time they played, and Fantasy has a decent chance of taking out Life. Hydra may not seem worth 7, but he does play twice and both matches are winnable.
On April 12 2014 07:32 Zealously wrote: Trap was IM's best player in R2, going 4-1
Those are some seriously deceptive stats. Effort, True, and Kassia? DRG is the only decent win on that list and Yeonsu isn't exactly Zerg favored.
On April 12 2014 07:32 Zealously wrote: Trap was IM's best player in R2, going 4-1
Those are some seriously deceptive stats. Effort, True, and Kassia? DRG is the only decent win on that list and Yeonsu isn't exactly Zerg favored.
I just wanted to highlight the fact that Trap was fielded a lot in Round 2 and won a lot. Obviously one can pick Trap if one feels like that'd be worth it, but he's pretty much a lock to play every week which means he could potentially ruin an anti-team, deceptive or not.
This one's for all the brotoss direct from brojak. Unfortunately there's a silly rule about having to have one of each race, so I took the lowest scores possible for zerg and terran to maximize the brotoss ownage.
SKT1 is the team pick because they've got a legendary Protoss Line-up, better on average than the other teams IMO.
herO is arguably the #1 toss so he's captain.
Zest Just won GSL so yea, he's probably good.
Avenge is a DEAL! Only 2 points for all that protoss power? I'll take it!
Squirtle is a good bang for the buck as well. It was a toss up between him and HerO but Squirtle will probably get more play time (super guess powers activate).
Anti-Team is for zergs and terrans that are enough points to get to 13 but probably won't be able to score too much.
On April 12 2014 07:32 Zealously wrote: Trap was IM's best player in R2, going 4-1
Those are some seriously deceptive stats. Effort, True, and Kassia? DRG is the only decent win on that list and Yeonsu isn't exactly Zerg favored.
I just wanted to highlight the fact that Trap was fielded a lot in Round 2 and won a lot. Obviously one can pick Trap if one feels like that'd be worth it, but he's pretty much a lock to play every week which means he could potentially ruin an anti-team, deceptive or not.
I think Trap is a bad anti as well simply because Yonghwa is currently sucking and probably won't be getting much action this round. Therefore, Trap is probably the next in line to substitute for him.
Though, there's also Ruin who actually looks quite good lately. Going to put him on my main as soon as IM starts to field him.
Fixed it up based on opening lineups. Never before have I been so tempted to take Roro, but I shall resist as I always do. I'm thinking my team will be a lot more solid than last round at least. I also really like my anti, at least for now considering Super isn't playing this week. Open for advice of course.
With R1 lineups out, I've shifted around some of the anti-team. All the regular team players are playing this week and I think have a decent chance of winning their matches. Neither Bunny nor Yonghwa play this week and I don't think Squirtle will beat PartinG. I was conflicted a bit over taking IM or taking Samsung and grabbing a stronger player. Oh well.
Also, slightly interesting that KT actually changed their lineup for once. Now, instead of only using Stats, TY, Zest, Flash, they're only using 3 of them per match.
Not taking any chances with the anti-team as usual, and since Reality gets to play twice, Salvation is a 1-pointer, and Zest / Maru are surefire ways to earn points, I didn't hesitate.
Kind of wanted an all zerg team except for Maru because all the strong protosses are such high pointers D:
I wish I didn't have to put Cure on my anti... I'm sure Maru will roll nerds as usual and make me sad that a fellow JinAir player is on my anti team but I couldn't resist the lackluster form of Bunny and Sora which requires me to get a 6 pointer... and SKT protosses are NOT an option.
I feel horrible putting Rain on my anti team and having 0 SKT players on main, but oov doesn't play the best players every week. One or 2 of the 4 best players each week get left off the lineups for Fantasy, Bravo, and others. Decent players, but they shouldn't be getting playing time on this team. This week it's Rain. There will probably be another week he doesn't play, and for 7 points not playing multiple weeks is begging for an anti team slot.
I haven't been able to follow the last month on SPL or so, but this is a few quick picks that looked okay to me. I'm not sold on my bbyong or PartinG picks, but the rest i think should be alright. I wanted to throw TAiLS in there somewhere too, hrmm, but none of the 7+ pointers seemed that good to me.
I have three people (Byul, Soulkey, and RorO) who i feel will come out as the ace for their team, Terminator is bound to get some play time, so at one point he's a steal. Rouge did just as well as some 6 pointers like fantasy last round, so i don't understand why he's three. I'm not super sure about my Reality pick, but he looked good against zerg in Code A and i have no idea how is TvT is, so i'm hoping Samsung Khan sends him out a bunch so that he's worth 3 points.
Anti Team
I felt Bunny was super overvalued at 4 points, and he's not getting played this week so thats a good sign. I see Keen picking up a win here and there, but he was wayyy overvalued in my opinion. Younghwa had the misfortune of being 1/500 protosses on LGIM, so he's probably going to miss a lot of matches because LGIM has too many players.
Question: So i have both Byul and Soulkey on my main team, and am planning on keeping them for the long haul unless something crazy happens. but i noticed they were facing each other this week. is it ok that i guarantee a player a win, even if it means another player is guaranteed a loss?
Please someone help me, would love any input possible as i HAVE to beat my brother this round.
Your three anti-team players are likely to rake in a bunch of team victory points since Jin Air and MVP are both likely to win the majority of their matches.
Psh, Jin Air & MVP going to get owned this season. Watch out for Samsung!
thoughts: MKP/Life/Reality will play all or most of their team's matches, and I think they are pretty underrated for their point value. Originally going to go with Soulkey + Jin Air but changed to TY + SKT1. Soulkey is a steal at 6 points but I still think SKT is one of the most solid teams no matter what. Jin Air just seems like the team that has a huge potential to lose always since everyone on their team that isn't Maru/$o$ is not very solid. Roro will play every Samsung match Terminator = 1 point protoss on one of most winning teams, and he has potential to play as well
I was really surprised to see hydra at 7 points. very overrated along with fantasy who will be overshadowed by other SKT members (despite being only terran on SKT so hes probably gonna get playtime... but he will lose )
this round is going to be much more luck based I feel. Point distribution is so top heavy and not necessarily good players with 2-3 wins last round are suddenly 6+ points. I feel like we're going to see a lot of similar picks this round especially with the lower point players, then take your pick of favorite high point ace (cj hero, ty/flash/zest, maru, etc.)
most surprising players this round (point value wise): hydra, drg, soulkey, soo, rouge
I have three people (Byul, Soulkey, and RorO) who i feel will come out as the ace for their team, Terminator is bound to get some play time, so at one point he's a steal. Rouge did just as well as some 6 pointers like fantasy last round, so i don't understand why he's three. I'm not super sure about my Reality pick, but he looked good against zerg in Code A and i have no idea how is TvT is, so i'm hoping Samsung Khan sends him out a bunch so that he's worth 3 points.
Anti Team
I felt Bunny was super overvalued at 4 points, and he's not getting played this week so thats a good sign. I see Keen picking up a win here and there, but he was wayyy overvalued in my opinion. Younghwa had the misfortune of being 1/500 protosses on LGIM, so he's probably going to miss a lot of matches because LGIM has too many players.
Question: So i have both Byul and Soulkey on my main team, and am planning on keeping them for the long haul unless something crazy happens. but i noticed they were facing each other this week. is it ok that i guarantee a player a win, even if it means another player is guaranteed a loss?
Please someone help me, would love any input possible as i HAVE to beat my brother this round.
Personally, I would go with just Soulkey and maybe another 6 pointer who is guaranteed a win/team win this week and then trade for Byul at equal value if you still want him. SK will likely take out ByuL and IM will probably get stomped by SKT. Bbyong is 6 points and plays twice this week. He has two protoss opponents and went 3-1 against some very strong protoss last round. He should at least go 1-1 with CJ going at least 1-1, earning points from team win as well.
On April 12 2014 15:56 GenesisX wrote: thoughts: MKP/Life/Reality will play all or most of their team's matches, and I think they are pretty underrated for their point value. Originally going to go with Soulkey + Jin Air but changed to TY + SKT1. Soulkey is a steal at 6 points but I still think SKT is one of the most solid teams no matter what. Jin Air just seems like the team that has a huge potential to lose always since everyone on their team that isn't Maru/$o$ is not very solid. Roro will play every Samsung match Terminator = 1 point protoss on one of most winning teams, and he has potential to play as well
I was really surprised to see hydra at 7 points. very overrated along with fantasy who will be overshadowed by other SKT members (despite being only terran on SKT so hes probably gonna get playtime... but he will lose )
this round is going to be much more luck based I feel. Point distribution is so top heavy and not necessarily good players with 2-3 wins last round are suddenly 6+ points. I feel like we're going to see a lot of similar picks this round especially with the lower point players, then take your pick of favorite high point ace (cj hero, ty/flash/zest, maru, etc.)
most surprising players this round (point value wise): hydra, drg, soulkey, soo, rouge
Life only played twice last round despite having nothing else to do.
Hydra was the second best Zerg last round.
FanTaSy earned more points than Soulkey, PartinG, and Classic, and scored 1 less than Rain in Round 2.
After 2 rounds it's still hard to tell whether we are starting to see trends or if these are just flukes. Last round they were worth what they are now worth.
On April 12 2014 15:56 GenesisX wrote: thoughts: MKP/Life/Reality will play all or most of their team's matches, and I think they are pretty underrated for their point value. Originally going to go with Soulkey + Jin Air but changed to TY + SKT1. Soulkey is a steal at 6 points but I still think SKT is one of the most solid teams no matter what. Jin Air just seems like the team that has a huge potential to lose always since everyone on their team that isn't Maru/$o$ is not very solid. Roro will play every Samsung match Terminator = 1 point protoss on one of most winning teams, and he has potential to play as well
I was really surprised to see hydra at 7 points. very overrated along with fantasy who will be overshadowed by other SKT members (despite being only terran on SKT so hes probably gonna get playtime... but he will lose )
this round is going to be much more luck based I feel. Point distribution is so top heavy and not necessarily good players with 2-3 wins last round are suddenly 6+ points. I feel like we're going to see a lot of similar picks this round especially with the lower point players, then take your pick of favorite high point ace (cj hero, ty/flash/zest, maru, etc.)
most surprising players this round (point value wise): hydra, drg, soulkey, soo, rouge
Life only played twice last round despite having nothing else to do.
Hydra was the second best Zerg last round.
FanTaSy earned more points than Soulkey, PartinG, and Classic, and scored 1 less than Rain in Round 2.
After 2 rounds it's still hard to tell whether we are starting to see trends or if these are just flukes. Last round they were worth what they are now worth.
He is still 3-7 in 2014 PL. Hardly worth 7 points in anyone's right mind.
Other 7 point players Stats: 6-5 in 2014 Rain : 7-7 in 2014 RorO: 10-4 in 2014 Trap: 6-2 in 2014 Super: 8-5 (not counting playoffs)
Then we haveeeeee Hydra at 3-7. o_O wut
One decent round does not a 7 pointer make. Comparatively, Rogue went 3-2 last round, same as Hydra, is 8-5 in 2014 (by my count) and is worth 3 points. o____O
Edit: Hydra is 3-1 last round (disregarding playoffs) and 3-6. Forgot that the DRG match was a playoff.
On April 12 2014 15:56 GenesisX wrote: thoughts: MKP/Life/Reality will play all or most of their team's matches, and I think they are pretty underrated for their point value. Originally going to go with Soulkey + Jin Air but changed to TY + SKT1. Soulkey is a steal at 6 points but I still think SKT is one of the most solid teams no matter what. Jin Air just seems like the team that has a huge potential to lose always since everyone on their team that isn't Maru/$o$ is not very solid. Roro will play every Samsung match Terminator = 1 point protoss on one of most winning teams, and he has potential to play as well
I was really surprised to see hydra at 7 points. very overrated along with fantasy who will be overshadowed by other SKT members (despite being only terran on SKT so hes probably gonna get playtime... but he will lose )
this round is going to be much more luck based I feel. Point distribution is so top heavy and not necessarily good players with 2-3 wins last round are suddenly 6+ points. I feel like we're going to see a lot of similar picks this round especially with the lower point players, then take your pick of favorite high point ace (cj hero, ty/flash/zest, maru, etc.)
most surprising players this round (point value wise): hydra, drg, soulkey, soo, rouge
Life only played twice last round despite having nothing else to do.
Hydra was the second best Zerg last round.
FanTaSy earned more points than Soulkey, PartinG, and Classic, and scored 1 less than Rain in Round 2.
After 2 rounds it's still hard to tell whether we are starting to see trends or if these are just flukes. Last round they were worth what they are now worth.
wow didn't even notice he was played so little -.-... In that case i'll just swap him out for rogue and all is good.
ehh last round wasn't a good round for zergs. And lets be real Hydra is just not that good. Yeah he might be the second best zerg last round but he wouldn't even be in my top 5 zergs in PL
parting was hardly fielded, soulkey and classic are much better players imo and fantasy got really lucky with 3 wins against only zergs: life, sniper and roro. Not saying he hasn't improved but for 6 points I think he will not win enough for his cost. Hes a worthwhile pick even if he wins his match this week
But yeah I agree with you after only 2 rounds its hard to tell how well players are doing :|
main team pretty straight forward. sOs on anti is my rule of thumb
lets see how it works
You aren't using all the points on your main team (you have up to 30 and you've used 26), and too many points on anti (usually get 13 total points instead of 14). Otherwise looks pretty good.
Why is soO on your anti team when he's in your top 2 favorite players? Do you think you have some sort of curse or something like some people that makes your anti team play better?
After rewriting it several times, i made the decision to go for prime and save points for better scoring players. Funny enough, i had the exact same team as stepupyagame. Bbyong plays twice and is good, MKP will be sent out every games for 4 points, and is a potential ace. Parting is solid, Rogue will play every games and is solid, rorO is samsung ace, and TAiLS has a good game in week one, i plan to trade him ASAP. The anti team is self explanatory, Yonghwa, Keen and Bunny are over rated, they won't play much IMO and i don't see them winning much. GL HF
So for my team (see OP), Classic and TY are not playing first week, shall I change them to Parting/Bbyong (for Classic) and Flash (for TY and as Captain)?
main team pretty straight forward. sOs on anti is my rule of thumb
lets see how it works
You aren't using all the points on your main team (you have up to 30 and you've used 26), and too many points on anti (usually get 13 total points instead of 14). Otherwise looks pretty good.
oh lol, didn't notice i had only 26 on main. fixed:
On April 12 2014 20:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Should I pick Classic or Soulkey?
They are both really good picks at 6, but I would prefer Soulkey between the two. SKT is more stacked on P than on Z, so Soulkey is more likely to be played regularly.
On April 12 2014 20:37 The_Templar wrote: Oh yeah, be sure to join LOTS of trades if you trade a ton (must have 14+ trades in 5 weeks or 11+ trades in 4 weeks to join).
For the lazy ones who plan to do the first time right approach, there is also the No Trade group
On April 12 2014 20:41 digmouse wrote: So for my team (see OP), Classic and TY are not playing first week, shall I change them to Parting/Bbyong (for Classic) and Flash (for TY and as Captain)?
I'd change Classic for Parting, yes, but I'd keep TY, because Flash is not going to win versus Maru, so they'll both bring one victory for you imho.
On April 12 2014 20:41 digmouse wrote: So for my team (see OP), Classic and TY are not playing first week, shall I change them to Parting/Bbyong (for Classic) and Flash (for TY and as Captain)?
I would go Classic ---->Parting and I would probably do the TY/Flash swap but that's just me.
He went 3-1 last round so he's not terrible by any means but it does seem like kind of a high point value for someone that will never play as ace and didn't play in every match
On April 12 2014 21:16 Shellshock wrote: He went 3-1 last round so he's not terrible by any means but it does seem like kind of a high point value for someone that will never play as ace and didn't play in every match
Yeah but he also went 0-5 (bottom of the list) in r1 which you'd think would factor in more.
The games he did win weren't that great either in r2, though I doubt that's considered in point value.
If I remember right though, Hydra was all over the board with how he was doing round to round last season of proleague with some amazing rounds and terrible rounds. He ended up with the most wins for zerg last time right? And I mean he did manage to get into Code S last season so maybe they are just banking on him continuing to play well. sOs had a pretty terrible round 1 record too and he is 8 points this time. of course he also had much better results outside of just proleague so it makes sense. Maybe Zealously got a say in some of the point values such as Hydra's
This time around I decide to actually play and do away with the CJ fanboyism. Here we go:
Captain Fantastic & the Brown Dirt Cowboys God Terran
Main Team 4
: If it's not CJ then it's T1, plus they are at equal value so yeah 6 Fantasy (captain): default choice every round 8 Flash: + Show Spoiler +
6 Bbyong: consider his code A play, Im confident that Bballer has becomed a solid top notch terran that CJ could rely on, and he plays twice this week 3 Rogue: a top 5 zerg, play twice, and 3pointer? 1 Hush: so that leaves me with 3 remaining points which translates to one 1pointer & one 2pointer. Bong & Turn happen to play this week (albeit against very strong opponents) 2 Turn: see above
Anti Team 4 Bunny: originally this is HerO's slot cuz I hate this dude but since the teampick is T1 this time around, Bunny might be too good of an 4p antipick 3 Sniper: kid doesnt play this round and it doesnt look like he will get fielded any time soon (will reconsider aLive too) 6 Cure(Speed): the only uncertain antipick there, but theres no better one for 6+. Maybe DRG (not play this week) 7 DongRaeGu: ok I will gamble on this one. He doesnt play this week, his code A play looks shaky. Lets see 2 State: srsly this dude should be like -2
New teams looks like this, I'm still thinking about the Flash pick, change him for RorO and spend the extra 1 on Gumiho or Dark? But there are not other good 2-3 pointers left besides maybe Life but I have to keep one Terran.
Feels like we're seeing iterations on this team pretty much across the board, I think the points are badly distributed for this round, a lot of too expensive players and somewhat undervalued players, and there are entire ranges (like 4-5) that are just mostly terrible. Seems 6 and 3 are generally good, 7 and above feels very expensive. I wish there were more players where the value wasn't either clearly bad or good. Well not like we know who is going to perform well this round, but still... I feel lack of variance in team building is a bit bad. Anti-teams are looking more interesting though. I find it harder to make a choice there.
It's more terran heavy to use the full power of BL/infestor. MKP will play every single time so that's a good 4 pointer imo. The same goes for Reality and Tails has an easy win in the first week. I switched my team to prime to afford herO as well as Flash. Rogue needs no explanation and so it all comes down to Hydra's performance I think, if he sucks this team might be good .
Where is this fantasy league thing? I played it once like a year or two ago, but then I never saw the end results of the season because it just vanished and I've never seen it again. I see liquibets, but no league.
On April 13 2014 01:08 Falling wrote: Where is this fantasy league thing? I played it once like a year or two ago, but then I never saw the end results of the season because it just vanished and I've never seen it again. I see liquibets, but no league.
On April 13 2014 01:08 Falling wrote: Where is this fantasy league thing? I played it once like a year or two ago, but then I never saw the end results of the season because it just vanished and I've never seen it again. I see liquibets, but no league.
Features --> Fantasy Starcraft --> Fantasy Proleague
Super in anti... don't do it, trust me I tried it for 2 rounds, never works out. Sure he doesn't play in the first week, but he could very likely be the ace and who will you trade him for in the future?
I like the flash pick. I'm not sure whether Soulkey should be your captain considering there will probably be weeks he doesn't play.
Yeah I'm thinking about it as well, the other captain pick is Flash but I don't have enough confidence in him so I want leave him out so I can trade him away if necessary.
Super in anti... don't do it, trust me I tried it for 2 rounds, never works out. Sure he doesn't play in the first week, but he could very likely be the ace and who will you trade him for in the future?
Yeah I have switched him out for a Bunny/Yonghwa/Keen anti team.
Super in anti... don't do it, trust me I tried it for 2 rounds, never works out. Sure he doesn't play in the first week, but he could very likely be the ace and who will you trade him for in the future?
Yeah I have switched him out for a Bunny/Yonghwa/Keen anti team.
Quite confident in this one, especially the anti team. Last round my anti team single-handedly screwed me over. I think I lost more from it than I gained from my main team. I think I went with DRG, Super and sOs. Never again.
Will probably swap out TAiLS next week depending on the lineups, but I feel like he has a free win over SalvatioN this week.
Quite confident in this one, especially the anti team. Last round my anti team single-handedly screwed me over. I think I lost more from it than I gained from my main team. I think I went with DRG, Super and sOs. Never again.
Will probably swap out TAiLS next week depending on the lineups, but I feel like he has a free win over SalvatioN this week.
I don't get how people can put Cure on the anti team, he scored quite well for me last round. He went 4-2 and beat TY, CJ_herO, Classic and Super. Sure he lost to DRG and Creator in sick games and I know he had a bad day in code A, but I think he is one of the strongest terrans in SPL. I think he will beat Hydra for sure.
Edit: I like the first one overall a bit better. But I haven't not had Flash on my FPL team... Ever and i fear leaving him off this time he will suddenly just win ever damn game. Plus Flash, sOs and RorO together are gonna get mad points in general..
On April 13 2014 03:01 The_Templar wrote: Stork has two difficult TvPs this week. Wouldn't pick him. I like the first team better though.
Thanks for the help, I'm banking on Stork hopefully pulling of a win in one of the two match ups. Maybe I'm just too much of a fanboy but I feel like he is under valued at 4 poitns right now and has a lot of skill to show still.
Why is soO on your anti team when he's in your top 2 favorite players? Do you think you have some sort of curse or something like some people that makes your anti team play better?
Why is soO on your anti team when he's in your top 2 favorite players? Do you think you have some sort of curse or something like some people that makes your anti team play better?
Pls
Roro on Anti lololol you fool have you learned nothing during your time here?
Why is soO on your anti team when he's in your top 2 favorite players? Do you think you have some sort of curse or something like some people that makes your anti team play better?
Pls
Roro on Anti lololol you fool have you learned nothing during your time here?
I'd like to say I was being brave but I actually just didn't look at who was playing
Cure is the most ovepriced 6pointer and he plays only 1nce first week meaning second week he can only play 1nce again because his team plays twice this week. and if youre gonna pick a 5 pointer, keen is prolly better over squirtle but keen plays this week and maybe will place twice next week so if either of them start strong, its gonna be worse if you have keen than if you have cure
REALLY wanted to fit in soO instead of Effort Mainly because soO is my favourite player atm but also cause he plays vs Trap(P) and should win that with all the protosses he faced in GSL Wasn´t really possible though. 5 pointers not too good..
Pretty happy with my team good solid players in there. Still torn if. I should get Maru though and downgrade a bit bit I believe TY can wreck aswell. Will have to see if. I can get Maru with a trade like last round
Feeling rather good bout the start, like always it will be cross fingers for good performances first week and then trade for who plays/who doesn't. Going to have to push it, think I've been like 103 and 105 last two seasons so really want that top 100 this time around.
Win situation would be Maru winx2 first week to get me into a flying start with Rogue as well, but feels like my team go or no go comes down to Samsung Galaxy... and that's scary...
Flash, MKP, RorO and Soulkey can appear as ace, while Rogue is likely to play in every game and is cheap at 3. Terminator is a 1 pointer who has a decent chance of picking up a few wins here and there. I chose Prime for my team instead of a better one, because I would rather spend more points on players. This round, the 5 pointers all suck, and the 3 and 4 pointer pool is quite dismal, so I'd rather get 3 heavy hitters.
For my anti, Sniper and True don't play, and I can always trade them off if they do. Cure is a slight risk, as he may pick up a few games here and there, but I think he won't do too much damage.
My team seems contingent on Flash recovering his form and tearing up Proleague to set me apart from all the other similar teams, hence the team name flash pls.
terminator and rogue lost but at least flash and roro won, i decided to pick 3 high percentage ace players because there were alot of solid 3 pt/1 pt options. my antiteam is pretty straightforward, drg isnt playing this week and theres alot of weak 7 pters so i can trade him out next week if he does play. cj plays twice this week and bunny isnt playing in either matches so thats a bonus. 3rd slot was reserved for a PRIME 2pter, i went with state instead of eins because hes probably gonna fly abroad to play in a few tourneys and stuff so i dont think he'll get much playtime
Thanks pangpootata, everyone will have the same points because everyone has pretty much the same players more or less (roro, soulkey/parting/bbyong, mkp, rogue) It's interesting how, even given the above, there is still variation at the top already, with surprises like stork winning an Ace match.
On April 14 2014 23:23 ggofthejungle wrote: Thanks pangpootata, everyone will have the same points because everyone has pretty much the same players more or less (roro, soulkey/parting/bbyong, mkp, rogue) It's interesting how, even given the above, there is still variation at the top already, with surprises like stork winning an Ace match.
You're welcome. To be honest the point distribution this round was more imbalanced than previous rounds. I'm sure that many people independently decided that those players were good before they read my post. In fact, the first matches of every team have just been played, and most of those players have indeed shown that they are good choices to start off with (there are exceptions like Rogue, but I still think he will pay off later). Also, don't forget that there are still trading decisions, which will likely set people apart more.
Is there any reason for the delay in the point updates for FPL? I assume that everything is completely automatically done by some software, so why isn't the points update available like an hour after the SPL matches end?
Just curious...
edit: I've posted the same question in the "Website feedback" forum, it's probably a more appropriate place.
On April 14 2014 23:18 Faust852 wrote: You really have maru in Anti ? This guy will play every playday and won't lose that much I think lol.
I can change him in the future, right?
This week he play against Flash and herO. He lost against Flash and I think he'll lose against herO. Thats why he's on my anti.
Isn't it only trade for a more expensive player when you do anti-trades? If so then no, you are not allowed to trade him and you are stuck with him unless someone else hits 10 cost but then they are a crazy good player/on a run of pure madness so not like it would be a good trade.
On April 15 2014 01:31 RHoudini wrote: Question to the FPL admin:
Is there any reason for the delay in the point updates for FPL? I assume that everything is completely automatically done by some software, so why isn't the points update available like an hour after the SPL matches end?
Just curious...
edit: I've posted the same question in the "Website feedback" forum, it's probably a more appropriate place.
Think someone has to add in the numbers and that takes someone, not a software.
im going for the win!!! mkp 4 pts stork 5 pts (still 1 match to go) soo 4 pts roro 4 pts (still 1 match to go) hydra 0pts (still 1 match to go) rogue 0pts(still 1 match to go) prime 3 pts
my advice for trading next week (Im rank 50 as of now and i will follow my own advice):
its the perfect time to snatch maru and sOs in the trades, next week and week 3 they will face mvp prime samsung (the easy teams and aces).
also, i suggest you get hydra (if you dont have him already) while you're at it: he just wiped flash in code a in convincing fashion and solid display of zvt.
stork also has low value, he's shown so far stellar pvp both in PL and code a (he beat squirtle 2-0, whos Pvp is statistically amazing)
I wouldn't trade rogue as of yet, unless they seed solar(samsung) who would be the only valuable trade for him.
depending on the lineups keep an eye on classic and ruin(who is a good way to get rid of terminator or tails) Life - must get him if he's seeded twice get rid of byyong for better trade (eg. sos or maru) trade rorO for rain/maru/sos GET SOO IF HES SEEDED
ugg, my trades so far. Roro for Rain and HYDRA for Classic.
I'm soooo undecided as how to trade on my anti. Both Youngwa and Squirtle are playing. The ace match is on Maze, which means a toss is going to be sent out. I have a feeling IM vs MVP will go to ace match. And im pretty sure squirtle will be sent out. However the only person i would trade him for that isn't playing this week is fanta however im pretty sure skt is gonna win both matches this week.
Traded on my antiteam Classic (who plays twice) for Hydra who has to go vs Flash. It's revenge time.
All my main players play (unfortunately life only once) don't see a reason for substitutions yet. My captain has a tough match vs TY but he'll pull through!
Ditching Classic from my Anti for FanTaSy, he plays twice and is more likely to win than Sora who has 1 game against Zest.
Only 1 trade on my team, soO for ByuL, soO not playing this week with ByuL playing twice and having winnable games (Creator has to lose at some point) wanted to trade TAiLS but honestly, no-one worth grabbing in the trades. Going to keep Life, I think he can edge out aLive and as much as I love Maru I'm keeping Bbyong, I feel Maru is slumping a little while Bbyong is on fire.
Anti: I have both Keen and Younghwa, Keen plays twice (vs Classic and Byul), and Younghwa vs Dream. On paper Younghwa's game is easier, but again Keen plays twice so he has higher chances to win statistically. Who would you guys trade away?\
I'm leaning to trade Yonghwa but for who? Everyone that I can trade him for plays this week except Fantasy
You COULD be dangerous and trade Yonghwa for Stats since Stats at most gets 1 ace match that I really doubt is going to happen, but it could end in tragedy in later rounds.
I could trade Yonghwa for IM.Hero (no way, I don't care who he plays) Cure, plays vs Roro (although Roro is the better player, Cure has made plenty of points in previous rounds) Life, plays vs aLive (Life is favorite and plays a lot), bad choice long term Stork, plays vs sOs (PvP can go either way and Stork can be ace) Squirtle, plays vs DRG on a 4th game, finally one I can get behind, but Squirtle plays a lot. Not good for long run Dream, plays twice this week, including an easy one vs Dark. Byul, plays twice, vs Keen and Creator (favorite vs Keen) and bad choice long term soo, plays vs DRG and will play every week. classic, uugh no. Fantasy - no play this week, so good choice this week but will bite me in the ass next weeks, I guarantee it!
I might just go with Fantasy and pray for the next weeks that I can trade him out.
Stats? no way, he plays every week! Ok, doesn't play this week but his trade value is so high, that if he wins just 1 game, I get stuck with him on anti forever.
So I'm thinking possibly trading Soulkey for Maru and Tails for someone(?). Maru has dipped quite a bit in value so he's fairly easy to pick up which is great. Soulkey only plays once (at the end of a match where Prime has to run the protoss gauntlet of Rain/Classic/Parting) so he may not play at all. I can pick up Dark or Ruin both of whom play this week. Dark plays Dream and Ruin plays MKP but I am leaning Dark here because he is on SKT. As far as anti team goes Bunny and eins still aren't playing and Super is playing at the end of their match against SKT which may end in a 3-0 prior to that + he is facing Rain so he will probably lose. Thinking anti team stays where it is. Anyone have thoughts/advice?
So I'm thinking possibly trading Soulkey for Maru and Tails for someone(?). Maru has dipped quite a bit in value so he's fairly easy to pick up which is great. Soulkey only plays once (at the end of a match where Prime has to run the protoss gauntlet of Rain/Classic/Parting) so he may not play at all. I can pick up Dark or Ruin both of whom play this week. Dark plays Dream and Ruin plays MKP but I am leaning Dark here because he is on SKT. As far as anti team goes Bunny and eins still aren't playing and Super is playing at the end of their match against SKT which may end in a 3-0 prior to that + he is facing Rain so he will probably lose. Thinking anti team stays where it is. Anyone have thoughts/advice?
Antiteam looks good (very similar to mine now). I notice you don't mention Life who's only facing aLivejwa this week. You could trade him off for Leenock if you wanted to. To be honest, it's very difficult to trade correctly this week. I would do:
TAiLS gets to sit and be useless for another round while I trade off soO and Soulkey for Byul and Rain respectively. Antiteam will PROBABLY bite me in the arse but it was either Yonghwa for Fantasy or Stats. Or gamble trading Super and just die.
I think I have to eat my words and do a classic -> fantasy anti trade >_<
Was also agonizing over a potential MKP-> Byul trade before I remembered that MKP is my only Terran, lol
Other than that, kinda at a loss. Trade away Roro/Soulkey for a better top tier player, or/and Stork for Life I think are the only solid choices. (Tails is my captain, and Rogue is still the best choice in his tier)
On April 20 2014 11:54 ggofthejungle wrote: Traded Soulkey for Maru, if Maru wins both his game and the ace match, tthis is the best trade I ever made!
I traded Yonghwa for Fantasy so dodged a bullet there. Did soO for ByuL so that's OKAY I guess but MKP lost still. Soulkey for Rain was supposed to work out but SKT 3-0'd. Ah well, I guess this one's alright.
Trade made this week: Anti team: Bunny -> Salvation, Bunny plays vs Prime and CJ probably will win, on the other hand Salvation plays vs bbyonjwa in the same match. Main: Tails -> Oz, or he will rot in there forever, plus IM points, plus Oz plays vs Rogue who is also on my team, I won't lose anyway.
Main: I'm thinking about trading MKP for Cure/Reality, not sure still if it's gonna be beneficial as Cure lost his recent TvZ and Reality got decent opponents (Ruin & soO). Anti: I'm going to trade Bunny -> Salvation or Squirtle -> KeeN
I cancelled the oz trade after his plays today, maybe Tails can get me some MVP points one day. Also @above Bunny -> Salvation anti trade is a good idea
On April 25 2014 19:33 w3c.TruE wrote: Should I trade RorO for Maru or sOs? I'm also thinking about trading Bunny for Salvation in my antiteam. Any thoughts?
Maru is playing 2 of the best Zergs and he's not rolling right now in SPL and individual competition, so definitely not. sOs on the other hand playing 2 PvPs, but in first case there is chance that SKT will just 3-0 before sOs comes to arena. Considering that RorO plays only in one game on his lovely KSS against PartinG - there is high chance that you will just get same points minus tax.
Salvation is playing Bbyong this round and Bunny will win no matter what because they're against Prime, so you can definitely go for it.
I have Tails on my main and he's my only protoss. I'd have to trade any of the following for a protoss:
Maru (not trading him, he will get me ace points, I guarantee it) Rogue (not this week, has 2 games and at least 1 win vs Oz) Bbyong (not this week, 1 easy game vs Salvation) MKP -> my only choice, because he plays the 4th. But he is a possible ace...
but then who can I trade Tails for... Swagger? Plays vs Flash Shine? nop, plays vs Rain! Ugh... Oz? He's gonna lose and never come again on IM's roster this round! I think I'm just stuck with Tails on my main.
Screw it, gonna trade Tails for Swagger. PPL have been talking about him possibly beating Flash. And they're both protosses so I don't have to even trade MKP out for that.
I couldn't have done Tails -> Dark last week (still needed to get rid of someone for a protoss), and instead I gained Maru, that might be better in the future.
On April 26 2014 04:44 Darkhorse wrote: Forced to trade Life for Cure D:
Same. I think I've had Cure on my team for 90% of these FPLs...
He gets fielded so often you just have to pick him even if he's not that good. I always have that feeling that he will finally "get it" because he's really talented and has crazy multitasking.
I'm rank 1955 right now, it looks grim. The only reason it turned that much into shit is because I missed to trade away classic on anti. Damnit, Atleast these couple of games today went my way, DRG, Myungsik and MKP took wins and points for me. Luckily both Bunny and Stats lost their games too(on anti) so damn these two games today went just like I hoped(Besides Prime winning that is).
If Jin Air sweeps IM tomorrow and Stork somehow wins his game against Classic, then maybe I'll be back in the runnings.
Rank #19, not bad. But my antiteam is hurting me so fucking much. Only 5 teams have more or equal team points as me.
I had originally Dream, Keen and Bunny but I traded Keen to Squirtle(made -1p) and then back to Keen coz I realised my mistake. But Dream already have -7 points Trading Squirtle back to Keen was good decision coz he would have done -5 points for me now.
Yongwa, Keen and Bunny would have been so much better antiteam
Went from 18 to 22 to 28, it's slipping! Sucks my RorO for herO gambit hasn't really paid off, I was convinced he'd win 2 games today but CJ sent Hydra for ace.
Rank 245. Anti Super --> TY bit me in the ass a little but considering how much worse it could have gone, w/e. Soulkey --> Rain working out great. Traded MKP for Reality though. That was costly, reality loses AND trade tax. Can't wait until RorO gets back though so he can actually play. I'm surprised MVP hasn't played Keen more though, especially considering how high value he was last round.
So fucking glad I didn't go for Maru this round, he's entered such a depressing slump, more points for me from his loss though. Rogue being incredibly disappointing right now too, I'm starting to see why he was so cheap this round. >_<
Trading Rogue for Cure was a pretty good move, I'm up to #114 now. Rain being Rain and trading MKP for Reality was a slight payoff. Probably could have done something better though. Tails is still dead weight and probably will be for the rest of the season unless MVP winning causes his value to jump up. Somehow I doubt that.
Oh templar we almost have the same score. 63, 36, no difference. It also doesn't help that more than half of my points are from stork + SKT. Congratulations on the positive trade ! :D
Really pumped that I made it to the top 100 (rank 95, lol, dead last among people with the same point total because I made Tails my captain...)
So hyped that Stork is delivering (to some degree, he's still 3-4 on regular matches), that I hopped on the Rain bandwagon at just the right time, and that I dodged a bullet by getting Classic off my anti (really pained me to replace him with Fantasy, but hey, it's not my fault he's not getting fielded )
Maru definitely needs to step it up though, this performance is really uncharacteristic
Aww yis! 32 points this week. I think I could make top 50, only if herO and Rogue would stop sucking... And btw. where's that guy, who told me, that it's not worth to trade RorO for sOs?
On April 30 2014 19:35 w3c.TruE wrote: Aww yis! 32 points this week. I think I could make top 50, only if herO and Rogue would stop sucking... And btw. where's that guy, who told me, that it's not worth to trade RorO for sOs?
Wait, someone actually told you that? Did he not look at the lineups? -.- sOs had 2 PvPs, RorO had a ZvP with jet lag and could only appear as ace one time.
Who is hitman and does he get played? For anti's I ditched Stork for Squirtle, but hitman is in a much larger team, so I thought maybe he'd be played less, but his score is throwing me off because I don't see any games on his profile more recent than 2013.
(It's rather hilarious playing a fantasy proleague without actually watching any games.)
On May 04 2014 02:17 Falling wrote: Who is hitman and does he get played? For anti's I ditched Stork for Squirtle, but hitman is in a much larger team, so I thought maybe he'd be played less, but his score is throwing me off because I don't see any games on his profile more recent than 2013.
(It's rather hilarious playing a fantasy proleague without actually watching any games.)
KT never really use hitman for PL, they prefer to use Action if they go for a Zerg. He played once this round againt RorO and lost.
On May 04 2014 01:16 digmouse wrote: Trade Rain for sOs or no? Also Rogue for Squirtle or Fantasy or no?Nvm they don't even play.
Rain for sOs ? You crazy boy, Rain is gonna stomp Hydra and zest, also may appear as ace (KT vs SKT )
Also thought about that. Both gonna play 2 games in PL. Rain plays vs Zest which is 50/50 and Hydra where he is favoured. $O$ plays aLive on Maze where he owns nerds, second match (in week 5) obviously not announced yet but Jin Air's opponent is Prime so chances of Sauce winning are pretty high What kept me from trading was the ace apperance - Jin Air probably will win both their's remaining matches 3:1 or 3:0 without the ace match. On the other hand SKT plays KT and CJ Entus where possibility of ace match is quite high. Also I had no trades left because I had to trade Cure for someone who actually PLAYS
Its so hard to trade anybody away..And that's good thing! Rain, plays twice. Bbyong, plays twice. ByuL, plays twice. Parting, plays once. (captain) Rogue, plays once. Terminator, doesn't play. But coz he have so low value can't trade away.
And anti: Dream, doesnt play Bunny, doesnt play Keen, plays once.
Rain, ByuL, RorO, Life, Maru, Tails is my team this round (I didn't trade Tails for Dark when I had the chance. Oh well.) Meanwhile, nobody on anti for me plays except... Stats. Well, shit. Still, it's better than when I had TY on anti last round. If all goes well, Rain wins an ace match against KT, ByuL wins an ace match against CJ, Maru stops underperforming, and Life wins twice. All while Stats never plays. If all goes well, I THINK I can get a maximum of... 8+12+8+8+8+12 assuming everyone gets to play ace matches and every single match goes PERFECTLY for me. And Stats never does anything. Although knowing my luck, what probably WILL happen is that having Stats on anti just ends up costing me 16 points this week.
I'm not keeping stork on my anti-team after last weeks disaster and the fact that he's playing against a prime b-teamer. Based on the matchup's this week I have decided to trade him for bbyong, the highest rated player by Trade value... Also traded Flash off main (I'm going hard for SKT) for Maru, wanted to do it for $O$ but had to keep a Terran on my main team, and the only other option was trading away Billowy for Bravo(sin) which would be really bad sicne SKT has no matches next week and MVP has two. So I hope that Maru can get out of his slump.
Looks like i'm playing with fire, but it might pay off.
Also, sorry to the mods for posting in the wrong thread.. :D Oops
I traded cure away for life because cure isn't playing this week, and life plays twice. Also life just won Dreamhack, and I though he has a good chance to get me ~4 points this week.
Of course, life was still in my anti (because he was not playing the week before), so I needed a good replacement. Trap was the best choice, he will not play this week and his rating is already quite low, making him another easy trade next week if it's needed.
I saved the last trade because all other players are playing the maximum of their potential matches this weeks and are decent players with good chances for points.
So I went into todays matches with Rain (won, +4), Soulkey (Captain, won, +4), Buyl (lined up but didn't play, team lost, +1), life (lost, 0), Marineking (plays tomorrow) and Stork (plays tomorrow). The team is SKT (won 3-0, +4).
Anti-Team is Trap (no line-up, team lost, 0), bunny (no line-up, team won, -1) and sniper (team plays tomorrow).
makes a +12 for today. I figure I need another 12-15 points from the next four matches to stay on top for the last week. Let's see how that works out.
Okey, im rank 2....doing good I think :D Sadly I can't keep my spot as most of my players play their last match in week 4 so I will drop quite much in week 5.
But like I earlier said, my antiteam is hurting me so much...I traded Keen away for Squirtle only for trading Squirtle back to Keen. That cost 3 or 4 points already. I also have Dream in my team (-7)...
Coz I had antipoints so much, I didnt do any trade for this week, so far its doing quite well. Only bad thing is ByuL (not winning(didnt play)) and Keen -1.
Ugh, took a 70 rank dive down to 187. Getting Life didn't pay off, even after his recent Dreamhack performance. Nuts. I was also betting on SKT vs KT actually going to ace instead of SKT just walking all over them. Also traded Reality for Life since I thought Life would win both his matches this week. UGHHHHHH.
Yay! Rank 73, I hope I can get even better. Samsung finally delivered some poits and they should earn more in the week 5, I think. And btw. all my players except Byun had won their games in this week, which is nice.
On May 06 2014 02:26 w3c.TruE wrote: Yay! Rank 73, I hope I can get even better. Samsung finally delivered some poits and they should earn more in the week 5, I think. And btw. all my players except Byun had won their games in this week, which is nice.
On May 06 2014 01:10 FuRong wrote: Holy shit I'm #1, but that's probably not gonna last very long. I think phagga has got me since he still has guys to play tomorrow night.
Still, I'm gonna enjoy it while it lasts.
I hope so I hope that Rain, soulkey and SKT get me about 10 points. Anything from Byul (vs TY) and Life (vs Flash) is a bonus. Although I really hope life wins, else that trade was a complete waste
Worst case scenario: SKT loses 0-3, IM wins but Byul and Life both lose. That would make -2 points (Trap in Anti, SKT 0-3).
Best case scenario: SKT wins 3-2 with wins by rain, soulkey and rain as ace vs bbyong => 16 points (rain gets a 3 win streak and kills bbyongs 5-win-streak). Addtionally IM wins 3-2 with wins of life, byul and byul as ace => 13 points. That's 29 points max.
k, so I'm #1 again, but I'm limited to two players for the last week (currently MKP and Stork), while everyone elsein the top 12 besides mosaicwc has 3 or 4 players. At least we all share the same team at the top....
It's gonna be hard to win this. I need to make my trade count. and I really, really regret trading life out of the antiteam and into my main team.
Ughh. Last day of this week didn't go as well as expected. I needed herO to win, and either him or Rain to win ace match (ofc I wished Rain's win), without the other one not playing. But I have 4 players, who will most likely play last week + sOs who has highest trade value atm, and Khan should bring some points too, which is nice. So I think i can get in TOP 100 again!!!
I lost faith in Bbyongjwa because of his results in code s, and traded him for zest, as he played well in his code s and the global tournament. Why did I lose faith in bbyongjwa i've had him for so many FPL's in a row now. rip any chance of being top 10
im pleased, however HerO should've won against guy that i dont even remember. and SKT T1 shouldnt've 3-0'd CJ because Soulkey was going to bring me points :<
On May 07 2014 00:15 digmouse wrote: Hey RICH, the trade values are busted again, same as last round at the final week.
Nope, the trade values are perfectly fine. It's base trade value X number of matches remaining, so those players whose teams have no matches left are at 0 trade value.
On May 07 2014 00:15 digmouse wrote: Hey RICH, the trade values are busted again, same as last round at the final week.
Nope, the trade values are perfectly fine. It's base trade value X number of matches remaining, so those players whose teams have no matches left are at 0 trade value.
I thought they had 0 value for aquisitions only. Now I just can't trade them away, which does feel a bit unnecessary.
But, here's what I'm on the fence about. All my main team players don't actually play anymore so the only ones I can trade are Maru and TaiLs (lol.) Maru I don't think I'm gonna get rid of so... CJ Entus --> Prime/MVP??? On one hand, both teams play twice. On the other hand, I very much doubt their ability to win their matches.
On May 10 2014 08:00 urasyupi2 wrote: Anti: Stats --> DRG Stats plays, DRG doesn't. Woot.
But, here's what I'm on the fence about. All my main team players don't actually play anymore so the only ones I can trade are Maru and TaiLs (lol.) Maru I don't think I'm gonna get rid of so... CJ Entus --> Prime/MVP??? On one hand, both teams play twice. On the other hand, I very much doubt their ability to win their matches.
Probably a good choice for the anti-team trade. For the main team: Maru faces Choya so I'd keep him unless you're willing to gamble on Billowy (which is reallllly far out there but does play twice on Maze). TAiLS is ok because it will balance out DRG anti-team, but you could also trade him from Gumiho (faces billowy). Trading TAiLS for anyone is quite risky though. CJ probably wins about 3-2 (2 points). If this is the case Prime would have to take it to two ace matches and win one, or win 3-1 and not lose 0-3, to break even, but both scenarios are unlikely. Alternatively, MVP has a weakish lineup against Samsung so might not manage to win against them, so MVP's not really worth it unless they can beat CJ well enough. I would keep CJ.
After checking the roster of my opponents in the top 10, i decided not to trade. I have stork and Marineking as the only players left to play this week. Most of the others have stork as well, and many have rogue. Marineking plays rogue. That will be the match that decides if I keep my number 1 spot or not, as a win from Marineking should give me an 7 to 9 point advantage to second place.
On my anti I decided to take the risk and not trade sniper away despite him being in the lineup. I wanted to avoid the trade tax since the fight for the number 1 spot might get really close. I also figured that he was quite the underdog vs Roro, and as I just saw he indeed lost his game.
On May 11 2014 19:04 phagga wrote: After checking the roster of my opponents in the top 10, i decided not to trade. I have stork and Marineking as the only players left to play this week. Most of the others have stork as well, and many have rogue. Marineking plays rogue. That will be the match that decides if I keep my number 1 spot or not, as a win from Marineking should give me an 7 to 9 point advantage to second place.
On my anti I decided to take the risk and not trade sniper away despite him being in the lineup. I wanted to avoid the trade tax since the fight for the number 1 spot might get really close. I also figured that he was quite the underdog vs Roro, and as I just saw he indeed lost his game.
Aaaaaand Marineking lost. I guess that's it for me
*Reality gets a bonus point for three wins in a row
Although you are in third, we are the only two who can win, because me and ihchulk have identical teams with respect to the last day of play. Whatever happens on Tuesday, he will finish four points behind me, and you'll be either first or third.
All my main team members are done, so I can't gain anymore points. There are still a number of scenarios in which you can beat me.
phagga potential points: MKP +4 (potential +8 total if he were to also win an ace match) FuRong potential losses: hyvaa -4, Super -4 (potential -12 total if one of them also went on to win an ace match)
It's certainly not impossible. MKP has a decent chance against Stats, although a Prime win is unlikely. If MKP loses, you could still tie with me if hyvaa and Super both won, but you could only beat me if one of them also went on to win an ace match.
I was super nervous during today's matches, especially when it looked like Maru was gonna lose. I'm not sure if I'm even gonna be able to watch on Tuesday...
TL;DR If I lose this FPL because of fucking hyvaa then I'm gonna throw my computer out the window
*Reality gets a bonus point for three wins in a row
Although you are in third, we are the only two who can win, because me and ihchulk have identical teams with respect to the last day of play. Whatever happens on Tuesday, he will finish four points behind me, and you'll be either first or third.
All my main team members are done, so I can't gain anymore points. There are still a number of scenarios in which you can beat me.
phagga potential points: MKP +4 (potential +8 total if he were to also win an ace match) FuRong potential losses: hyvaa -4, Super -4 (potential -12 total if one of them also went on to win an ace match)
It's certainly not impossible. MKP has a decent chance against Stats, although a Prime win is unlikely. If MKP loses, you could still tie with me if hyvaa and Super both won, but you could only beat me if one of them also went on to win an ace match.
I was super nervous during today's matches, especially when it looked like Maru was gonna lose. I'm not sure if I'm even gonna be able to watch on Tuesday...
TL;DR If I lose this FPL because of fucking hyvaa then I'm gonna throw my computer out the window
Thanks for the calculation of the scenarios I doubt that I'm gonna get more than 3 points out of Marineking, Seems unlikely for Prime to win vs KT.
Do you know how a possible tie would be handled?
Also, still regretting that I took life from anti to my main team last week
When are the trading times? I have only traded once this season and that was after the first week. Everytime I log on, it says that Trading is closed. Is it only in the weekends or something (almost never online during weekends )?
On May 12 2014 17:02 WonnaPlay wrote: When are the trading times? I have only traded once this season and that was after the first week. Everytime I log on, it says that Trading is closed. Is it only in the weekends or something (almost never online during weekends )?
Trading usually opens Friday and closes on Sunday before the first matches of the week.
Even though I would win in a tiebreak scenario, that seems like a pretty brutal rule. It's not like first place is a cash prize, it's just an icon. Would it really kill TL to give out two in the case of a tie?
Also, I realised I forgot to calculate one thing, although it doesn't make a difference. If MVP were to win their match, we would both lose one point on our antis for Sniper and Alive respectively.
On May 12 2014 17:56 FuRong wrote: Even though I would win in a tiebreak scenario, that seems like a pretty brutal rule. It's not like first place is a cash prize, it's just an icon. Would it really kill TL to give out two in the case of a tie?
Also, I realised I forgot to calculate one thing, although it doesn't make a difference. If MVP were to win their match, we would both lose one point on our antis for Sniper and Alive respectively.
Well, choosing the right player as Captain is part of the game, so I don't mind that rule at all. It's not like they're going the Dreamhack way of tossing a coin
Everything went better, than expected. All my players had won this week. I'm glad I haven't traded sOs for Creator, and that i have traded herO for Zest. That brought me some points, and I think I could be around TOP30! Edit: Does anyone know, when the results will be up?