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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-19 16:34:54
March 19 2014 16:34 GMT
#21
You're welcome.

Finally, my mech brothers have been freed! Never again shall we be held down by arbitrary interface changes that allow us to not select our units properly!

Now if only they listen about swarmhosts design and Protoss
Sup
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-19 16:37:49
March 19 2014 16:35 GMT
#22
On March 20 2014 01:22 Kon-Tiki wrote:
Blizzard reverted a change? In SC2?

In other news, Hell froze over this morning


Not the first time they reverted a thing no ? Fungal i think ? Wasn't there something else ?

On March 20 2014 01:24 synd wrote:
Meanwhile in other balance issues...........


Meanwhile in neverhappyland...

On topic. I don't understand this. (i don't play Terran). Does that mean hellions and hellbat are in the same "tabulation" group ?
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Rowrin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States280 Posts
March 19 2014 16:41 GMT
#23
On March 20 2014 01:35 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 01:22 Kon-Tiki wrote:
Blizzard reverted a change? In SC2?

In other news, Hell froze over this morning


Not the first time they reverted a thing no ? Fungal i think ? Wasn't there something else ?

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 01:24 synd wrote:
Meanwhile in other balance issues...........


Meanwhile in neverhappyland...

On topic. I don't understand this. (i don't play Terran). Does that mean hellions and hellbat are in the same "tabulation" group ?

fungal had a change that was reverted in a ptr, i don't think it was ever officially live.
HeyImFinn
Profile Joined September 2011
United States250 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-19 16:43:10
March 19 2014 16:41 GMT
#24
Thanks, avilo.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
March 19 2014 16:43 GMT
#25
On March 20 2014 01:41 Rowrin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 01:35 FFW_Rude wrote:
On March 20 2014 01:22 Kon-Tiki wrote:
Blizzard reverted a change? In SC2?

In other news, Hell froze over this morning


Not the first time they reverted a thing no ? Fungal i think ? Wasn't there something else ?

On March 20 2014 01:24 synd wrote:
Meanwhile in other balance issues...........


Meanwhile in neverhappyland...

On topic. I don't understand this. (i don't play Terran). Does that mean hellions and hellbat are in the same "tabulation" group ?

fungal had a change that was reverted in a ptr, i don't think it was ever officially live.


Oh ok. Thanks
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
March 19 2014 16:43 GMT
#26
On March 20 2014 01:35 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 01:22 Kon-Tiki wrote:
Blizzard reverted a change? In SC2?

In other news, Hell froze over this morning


Not the first time they reverted a thing no ? Fungal i think ? Wasn't there something else ?

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 01:24 synd wrote:
Meanwhile in other balance issues...........


Meanwhile in neverhappyland...

On topic. I don't understand this. (i don't play Terran). Does that mean hellions and hellbat are in the same "tabulation" group ?

Apparently, yes. Considered as the same unit. I guess this revert is a punch in the face of all the whiners saying blizzard never listens to players.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
March 19 2014 16:49 GMT
#27
Oh wow. I never knew that. Always assumed that they were two different types of unit for tab groups. Because siege tanks needs to be tabbed for siege / unsiege no ? Or is it the same ?
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
March 19 2014 16:51 GMT
#28
YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

This shit was so annoying.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
March 19 2014 16:51 GMT
#29
On March 20 2014 01:35 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 01:22 Kon-Tiki wrote:
Blizzard reverted a change? In SC2?

In other news, Hell froze over this morning


Not the first time they reverted a thing no ? Fungal i think ? Wasn't there something else ?


If we include the beta patches, the hydra attack speed buff is actually a reversion of a beta patch 5 nerf. Also, bunker build time changes have been reverted 2-3 times.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-19 16:53:49
March 19 2014 16:53 GMT
#30
On March 20 2014 01:35 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 01:22 Kon-Tiki wrote:
Blizzard reverted a change? In SC2?

In other news, Hell froze over this morning


Not the first time they reverted a thing no ? Fungal i think ? Wasn't there something else ?

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 01:24 synd wrote:
Meanwhile in other balance issues...........


Meanwhile in neverhappyland...

On topic. I don't understand this. (i don't play Terran). Does that mean hellions and hellbat are in the same "tabulation" group ?


Yeah, they're on the same tab when in a group. Just checked--it's both for double clicking in game field and ctrl clicking the icons, where you select all hellions and hellbats. I don't know if Blizzard is changing the tab, or just making it so you can double/ctrl click and get only hellions or hellbats.

FFW, siege tanks are same tab.
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
March 19 2014 16:54 GMT
#31
I see how it is, Blizzard.. buff Terran but hang the other races out to dry. I still want to be able to select my HT with storm and without storm separately.

"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-19 16:56:15
March 19 2014 16:54 GMT
#32
On March 20 2014 01:49 FFW_Rude wrote:
Oh wow. I never knew that. Always assumed that they were two different types of unit for tab groups. Because siege tanks needs to be tabbed for siege / unsiege no ? Or is it the same ?


It's the same. The hotkey for unsiege is different from the hotkey for siege. The reason why you tab over to tanks is because they're lower on the ability tab (bottom right) priority than most other units. I think it goes ghosts > bio > thors > tanks. This is why the old practice of separating control groups by types of units still has some merit. Tabbing is just a wasted action.
twitch.tv/duttroach
KOtical
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany451 Posts
March 19 2014 16:55 GMT
#33
bring back the warhound... those mutas and blink stalkers are making me crazy...
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
March 19 2014 16:55 GMT
#34
If you play mech it's actually quite useful because you can have a separate group of Hellions to harass mineral lines. Right now it just selects all your Hellions and Hellbats together as if they're 1 unit type. Annoying as hell.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 19 2014 16:55 GMT
#35
On March 20 2014 01:35 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 01:22 Kon-Tiki wrote:
Blizzard reverted a change? In SC2?

In other news, Hell froze over this morning


Not the first time they reverted a thing no ? Fungal i think ? Wasn't there something else ?

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 01:24 synd wrote:
Meanwhile in other balance issues...........


Meanwhile in neverhappyland...

On topic. I don't understand this. (i don't play Terran). Does that mean hellions and hellbat are in the same "tabulation" group ?

The Thor change where there was no mana cost for strike cannon and they started stun locking immortals. They reverted that one and then removed that dumb ability in hots. Stupid stun lock damage dump. It's like if forcefields were also on fire.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Anlo
Profile Joined December 2013
Sweden485 Posts
March 19 2014 17:03 GMT
#36
On March 20 2014 01:55 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 01:35 FFW_Rude wrote:
On March 20 2014 01:22 Kon-Tiki wrote:
Blizzard reverted a change? In SC2?

In other news, Hell froze over this morning


Not the first time they reverted a thing no ? Fungal i think ? Wasn't there something else ?

On March 20 2014 01:24 synd wrote:
Meanwhile in other balance issues...........


Meanwhile in neverhappyland...

On topic. I don't understand this. (i don't play Terran). Does that mean hellions and hellbat are in the same "tabulation" group ?

It's like if forcefields were also on fire.


I like the way you think man, offensive forcefields! Forcefield in them workers and watch them cook to death, where do you get these ideas? I hope it's at the Blizzard HQ breakfast meetings?
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
March 19 2014 17:04 GMT
#37
I found this to be really annoying, considering they move at drastically different speeds. When I control-click a hellion, I want to control only hellions, not hellbats. I don't know why they had this in the first place. It's like ctrl-clicking a zergling and selecting all lings and banelings; what a nightmare.

Maybe the good folks at Blizzard are actually trying to play Terran for the first time since beta battle reports and realizing how stupid the race plays sometimes. Something like this shouldn't have even been an issue in the first place - they should also do the same for vikings that are flying vs ones that are landed. Thors are ok, because they don't overlap like vikings can, and still move at the same speed no matter the state. Tanks are fine, too, because you're not going to miss-micro a unit that can't move.
twitch.tv/duttroach
Kon-Tiki
Profile Joined February 2011
United States402 Posts
March 19 2014 17:04 GMT
#38
On March 20 2014 01:35 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 01:22 Kon-Tiki wrote:
Blizzard reverted a change? In SC2?

In other news, Hell froze over this morning


Not the first time they reverted a thing no ? Fungal i think ? Wasn't there something else ?

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 01:24 synd wrote:
Meanwhile in other balance issues...........


Meanwhile in neverhappyland...

On topic. I don't understand this. (i don't play Terran). Does that mean hellions and hellbat are in the same "tabulation" group ?

Well, comparing it to Hell freezing over may have been a little extreme, but it certainly is a rarity. Also props to the guy who saw the hydralisk "revert to beta" stat O_O
I am a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar.
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
March 19 2014 17:06 GMT
#39
On March 20 2014 01:22 Kon-Tiki wrote:
Blizzard reverted a change? In SC2?


Kon-Tiki, meet Bunker.
TriZ
Profile Joined September 2012
Belgium379 Posts
March 19 2014 17:07 GMT
#40
they listened to the community and acted accordingly in a well timed fashion.

this can only be good, even snide comments aren't necessary.
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