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plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
March 17 2014 02:03 GMT
#81
"i just want to spend time with my fiancee." He really does love his girlfriend.


Well. On that note. I'm going to go for a hot piece of dump. Who's in?



User was warned for this post
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
March 17 2014 02:10 GMT
#82
On March 17 2014 09:25 Nirel wrote:
If nothing else, best team name ever


Agreed. The people in this thread are so damn cold (even for internet standards) that I guess I'm a little skeptical myself. But I won't feel right without saying best wishes to Pascal and his family.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 02:16:56
March 17 2014 02:15 GMT
#83
On March 17 2014 11:01 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 10:47 Arghmyliver wrote:
On March 17 2014 10:03 Plansix wrote:
On March 17 2014 09:59 Arghmyliver wrote:
You guys are all bastards. Whether it's true or not there is absolutely no excusable reason to be a douche to someone with a terminal illness. I hope to christ he doesn't read these comments. Think before you post for pity's sake. Thought this was a really cool team name and at least one of the players has come forward with an incredibly positive post about his time on the team. If there is any humanity left in the world let it be sent to this man who was paying for an SC2 team out of pocket in his last time on earth. You all should be horribly ashamed.

To those who posted positive things, thank you for your shred of decency towards your fellow man in this bleak fucking fanbase.

Peace and Love to all.
<3 Argh

Its also a really good way to avoid having to pay your players.

"What you want me to pay you? But I have family to worry about? Who would provide for them when I am gone? You wouldn't take money from a dying man's family?"

Its cynical, but it wouldn't be the first time that a CEO used illness as an excuse not to pay his players.


It's death. It's not just an illness, it's arguably the worst illness. It's not a good way to avoid paying anything. It's a terrible way. You die. Why don't all the CEO's of every company just commit suicide to avoid- OH RIGHT death. If that's truly what you feel is going on keep it to yourself.

You are confused. People have LIED about illnesses before, including terminal ones, to not pay their players. That is why people are so cynical about it. This is not the first time this has happened and a team shut down because someone got "sick".

Its why we take it all with a grain of salt.

we don't know if it's the case here or not so posts like yours don't really help. Being cautious is fine but your post automatically assumes that it's a lie. Also, you talk about it being used to avoid paying players. If we go by the LYGF poster here assuming he is a legit player, they are confirmed to be paid so there's nothing to worry about there:

On March 17 2014 10:06 LucoxP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 10:03 Plansix wrote:
On March 17 2014 09:59 Arghmyliver wrote:
You guys are all bastards. Whether it's true or not there is absolutely no excusable reason to be a douche to someone with a terminal illness. I hope to christ he doesn't read these comments. Think before you post for pity's sake. Thought this was a really cool team name and at least one of the players has come forward with an incredibly positive post about his time on the team. If there is any humanity left in the world let it be sent to this man who was paying for an SC2 team out of pocket in his last time on earth. You all should be horribly ashamed.

To those who posted positive things, thank you for your shred of decency towards your fellow man in this bleak fucking fanbase.

Peace and Love to all.
<3 Argh

Its also a really good way to avoid having to pay your players.

"What you want me to pay you? But I have family to worry about? Who would provide for them when I am gone? You wouldn't take money from a dying man's family?"

Its cynical, but it wouldn't be the first time that a CEO used illness as an excuse not to pay his players.


It's been confirmed that LYGF will pay any contracted player to the end of the month when the contract will end!


If any of the players complain, then it's worth a second look. People can get sick and they do quite often so there's a chance that it's the truth.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
March 17 2014 02:21 GMT
#84
Genius seriously has the worst luck in THE WORLD with teams. I feel so bad for him.
Please Liquid, pick him up finally.
Azelja
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan762 Posts
March 17 2014 02:24 GMT
#85
Unless it is 100% confirmed that the team was a scam, you guys are assholes, holy shit...

That being said and regardless of whether the illness is for real or made up: man, I feel so sorry for Genius, wow
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
March 17 2014 02:29 GMT
#86
On March 17 2014 11:15 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 11:01 Plansix wrote:
On March 17 2014 10:47 Arghmyliver wrote:
On March 17 2014 10:03 Plansix wrote:
On March 17 2014 09:59 Arghmyliver wrote:
You guys are all bastards. Whether it's true or not there is absolutely no excusable reason to be a douche to someone with a terminal illness. I hope to christ he doesn't read these comments. Think before you post for pity's sake. Thought this was a really cool team name and at least one of the players has come forward with an incredibly positive post about his time on the team. If there is any humanity left in the world let it be sent to this man who was paying for an SC2 team out of pocket in his last time on earth. You all should be horribly ashamed.

To those who posted positive things, thank you for your shred of decency towards your fellow man in this bleak fucking fanbase.

Peace and Love to all.
<3 Argh

Its also a really good way to avoid having to pay your players.

"What you want me to pay you? But I have family to worry about? Who would provide for them when I am gone? You wouldn't take money from a dying man's family?"

Its cynical, but it wouldn't be the first time that a CEO used illness as an excuse not to pay his players.


It's death. It's not just an illness, it's arguably the worst illness. It's not a good way to avoid paying anything. It's a terrible way. You die. Why don't all the CEO's of every company just commit suicide to avoid- OH RIGHT death. If that's truly what you feel is going on keep it to yourself.

You are confused. People have LIED about illnesses before, including terminal ones, to not pay their players. That is why people are so cynical about it. This is not the first time this has happened and a team shut down because someone got "sick".

Its why we take it all with a grain of salt.

we don't know if it's the case here or not so posts like yours don't really help. Being cautious is fine but your post automatically assumes that it's a lie. Also, you talk about it being used to avoid paying players. If we go by the LYGF poster here assuming he is a legit player, they are confirmed to be paid so there's nothing to worry about there:

Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 10:06 LucoxP wrote:
On March 17 2014 10:03 Plansix wrote:
On March 17 2014 09:59 Arghmyliver wrote:
You guys are all bastards. Whether it's true or not there is absolutely no excusable reason to be a douche to someone with a terminal illness. I hope to christ he doesn't read these comments. Think before you post for pity's sake. Thought this was a really cool team name and at least one of the players has come forward with an incredibly positive post about his time on the team. If there is any humanity left in the world let it be sent to this man who was paying for an SC2 team out of pocket in his last time on earth. You all should be horribly ashamed.

To those who posted positive things, thank you for your shred of decency towards your fellow man in this bleak fucking fanbase.

Peace and Love to all.
<3 Argh

Its also a really good way to avoid having to pay your players.

"What you want me to pay you? But I have family to worry about? Who would provide for them when I am gone? You wouldn't take money from a dying man's family?"

Its cynical, but it wouldn't be the first time that a CEO used illness as an excuse not to pay his players.


It's been confirmed that LYGF will pay any contracted player to the end of the month when the contract will end!


If any of the players complain, then it's worth a second look. People can get sick and they do quite often so there's a chance that it's the truth.


The contracts themselves should have some sort of clause that allows the employer to terminate the contract due to circumstances such as this. Plenty of catch-all language out there in the contract world. The statement could have easily read that the team was disbanding and GG, but obviously wanted to share some more intimate detail.

If someone doesn't get paid, then yea it's an issue. Past events with other teams add to the skepticism, but contractually speaking it's perfectly fine to shut down a business and end employment. Paying out the team(employee) until the end of the month, a severance package in other words, is typical in many professions out there today.
TL+ Member
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 02:40:25
March 17 2014 02:39 GMT
#87
On March 17 2014 11:29 Ctone23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 11:15 BigFan wrote:
On March 17 2014 11:01 Plansix wrote:
On March 17 2014 10:47 Arghmyliver wrote:
On March 17 2014 10:03 Plansix wrote:
On March 17 2014 09:59 Arghmyliver wrote:
You guys are all bastards. Whether it's true or not there is absolutely no excusable reason to be a douche to someone with a terminal illness. I hope to christ he doesn't read these comments. Think before you post for pity's sake. Thought this was a really cool team name and at least one of the players has come forward with an incredibly positive post about his time on the team. If there is any humanity left in the world let it be sent to this man who was paying for an SC2 team out of pocket in his last time on earth. You all should be horribly ashamed.

To those who posted positive things, thank you for your shred of decency towards your fellow man in this bleak fucking fanbase.

Peace and Love to all.
<3 Argh

Its also a really good way to avoid having to pay your players.

"What you want me to pay you? But I have family to worry about? Who would provide for them when I am gone? You wouldn't take money from a dying man's family?"

Its cynical, but it wouldn't be the first time that a CEO used illness as an excuse not to pay his players.


It's death. It's not just an illness, it's arguably the worst illness. It's not a good way to avoid paying anything. It's a terrible way. You die. Why don't all the CEO's of every company just commit suicide to avoid- OH RIGHT death. If that's truly what you feel is going on keep it to yourself.

You are confused. People have LIED about illnesses before, including terminal ones, to not pay their players. That is why people are so cynical about it. This is not the first time this has happened and a team shut down because someone got "sick".

Its why we take it all with a grain of salt.

we don't know if it's the case here or not so posts like yours don't really help. Being cautious is fine but your post automatically assumes that it's a lie. Also, you talk about it being used to avoid paying players. If we go by the LYGF poster here assuming he is a legit player, they are confirmed to be paid so there's nothing to worry about there:

On March 17 2014 10:06 LucoxP wrote:
On March 17 2014 10:03 Plansix wrote:
On March 17 2014 09:59 Arghmyliver wrote:
You guys are all bastards. Whether it's true or not there is absolutely no excusable reason to be a douche to someone with a terminal illness. I hope to christ he doesn't read these comments. Think before you post for pity's sake. Thought this was a really cool team name and at least one of the players has come forward with an incredibly positive post about his time on the team. If there is any humanity left in the world let it be sent to this man who was paying for an SC2 team out of pocket in his last time on earth. You all should be horribly ashamed.

To those who posted positive things, thank you for your shred of decency towards your fellow man in this bleak fucking fanbase.

Peace and Love to all.
<3 Argh

Its also a really good way to avoid having to pay your players.

"What you want me to pay you? But I have family to worry about? Who would provide for them when I am gone? You wouldn't take money from a dying man's family?"

Its cynical, but it wouldn't be the first time that a CEO used illness as an excuse not to pay his players.


It's been confirmed that LYGF will pay any contracted player to the end of the month when the contract will end!


If any of the players complain, then it's worth a second look. People can get sick and they do quite often so there's a chance that it's the truth.


The contracts themselves should have some sort of clause that allows the employer to terminate the contract due to circumstances such as this. Plenty of catch-all language out there in the contract world. The statement could have easily read that the team was disbanding and GG, but obviously wanted to share some more intimate detail.

If someone doesn't get paid, then yea it's an issue. Past events with other teams add to the skepticism, but contractually speaking it's perfectly fine to shut down a business and end employment. Paying out the team(employee) until the end of the month, a severance package in other words, is typical in many professions out there today.

My main point to Plansix was that while a healthy dose of caution is needed, unless we know 100% that the medical incident is a lie, we shouldn't be laying accusations(or w/e you want to call it) because it takes away from the main point of the thread which is that the team is going to close down. If it's false, I'm sure we would eventually find out about it.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
March 17 2014 02:42 GMT
#88
On March 17 2014 09:18 darthfoley wrote:
I supported your overall message, if nothing else. Gotta Love your GF


Couldn't say it better myself. I will miss them for this reason.
twitter.com/lumigaming - DongRaeGu is the One True Dong - /r/onetruedong
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
March 17 2014 02:42 GMT
#89
On March 17 2014 09:11 Boucot wrote:
All my thoughts go to Pascal Boudreault


Who's that?
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SpunXtain20
Profile Joined January 2014
Australia554 Posts
March 17 2014 02:45 GMT
#90
Some really tactless and honestly embaressing posts here... Unless you have evidence otherwise, assume it is true and wish him the best. Just because another guy was an asshole doesn't mean this guy is. If he really is faking to get out of paying people, then yes that is horrible. But assume the best in him.

Best wishes and thanks for what you gave to the community.
*Hugs all* | I came here to drink milk and kick asses, and I've just finished my milk.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 17 2014 02:45 GMT
#91
On March 17 2014 11:42 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 09:11 Boucot wrote:
All my thoughts go to Pascal Boudreault


Who's that?


A mix of LYGF and Quantic (Simon Boudreault, the team owner)
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
knOxStarcraft
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada422 Posts
March 17 2014 02:51 GMT
#92
On March 17 2014 10:47 Arghmyliver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 10:03 Plansix wrote:
On March 17 2014 09:59 Arghmyliver wrote:
You guys are all bastards. Whether it's true or not there is absolutely no excusable reason to be a douche to someone with a terminal illness. I hope to christ he doesn't read these comments. Think before you post for pity's sake. Thought this was a really cool team name and at least one of the players has come forward with an incredibly positive post about his time on the team. If there is any humanity left in the world let it be sent to this man who was paying for an SC2 team out of pocket in his last time on earth. You all should be horribly ashamed.

To those who posted positive things, thank you for your shred of decency towards your fellow man in this bleak fucking fanbase.

Peace and Love to all.
<3 Argh

Its also a really good way to avoid having to pay your players.

"What you want me to pay you? But I have family to worry about? Who would provide for them when I am gone? You wouldn't take money from a dying man's family?"

Its cynical, but it wouldn't be the first time that a CEO used illness as an excuse not to pay his players.


It's death. It's not just an illness, it's arguably the worst illness. It's not a good way to avoid paying anything. It's a terrible way. You die. Why don't all the CEO's of every company just commit suicide to avoid- OH RIGHT death. If that's truly what you feel is going on keep it to yourself.

He's saying he may be lying about the illness, durrrr
knOxStarcraft
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada422 Posts
March 17 2014 02:58 GMT
#93
On March 17 2014 11:45 SpunXtain20 wrote:
Some really tactless and honestly embaressing posts here... Unless you have evidence otherwise, assume it is true and wish him the best. Just because another guy was an asshole doesn't mean this guy is. If he really is faking to get out of paying people, then yes that is horrible. But assume the best in him.

Best wishes and thanks for what you gave to the community.

Actually you usually assume things are false unless evidence shows them to be true, unless you know the person well or whatever, like a friend or family member. Given the HTOMario issue I believe everyone's skepticism is warranted. "Best wishes" won't do his heart much good anyways.
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
March 17 2014 03:03 GMT
#94
On March 17 2014 11:51 knOxStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 10:47 Arghmyliver wrote:
On March 17 2014 10:03 Plansix wrote:
On March 17 2014 09:59 Arghmyliver wrote:
You guys are all bastards. Whether it's true or not there is absolutely no excusable reason to be a douche to someone with a terminal illness. I hope to christ he doesn't read these comments. Think before you post for pity's sake. Thought this was a really cool team name and at least one of the players has come forward with an incredibly positive post about his time on the team. If there is any humanity left in the world let it be sent to this man who was paying for an SC2 team out of pocket in his last time on earth. You all should be horribly ashamed.

To those who posted positive things, thank you for your shred of decency towards your fellow man in this bleak fucking fanbase.

Peace and Love to all.
<3 Argh

Its also a really good way to avoid having to pay your players.

"What you want me to pay you? But I have family to worry about? Who would provide for them when I am gone? You wouldn't take money from a dying man's family?"

Its cynical, but it wouldn't be the first time that a CEO used illness as an excuse not to pay his players.


It's death. It's not just an illness, it's arguably the worst illness. It's not a good way to avoid paying anything. It's a terrible way. You die. Why don't all the CEO's of every company just commit suicide to avoid- OH RIGHT death. If that's truly what you feel is going on keep it to yourself.

He's saying he may be lying about the illness, durrrr


why would anyone lie about a terminal illness? do you know what happens with terminal illnesses? YOU DIE. you can't really fake that. this thread is an embarrassment.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
March 17 2014 03:06 GMT
#95
On March 17 2014 12:03 negativedge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 11:51 knOxStarcraft wrote:
On March 17 2014 10:47 Arghmyliver wrote:
On March 17 2014 10:03 Plansix wrote:
On March 17 2014 09:59 Arghmyliver wrote:
You guys are all bastards. Whether it's true or not there is absolutely no excusable reason to be a douche to someone with a terminal illness. I hope to christ he doesn't read these comments. Think before you post for pity's sake. Thought this was a really cool team name and at least one of the players has come forward with an incredibly positive post about his time on the team. If there is any humanity left in the world let it be sent to this man who was paying for an SC2 team out of pocket in his last time on earth. You all should be horribly ashamed.

To those who posted positive things, thank you for your shred of decency towards your fellow man in this bleak fucking fanbase.

Peace and Love to all.
<3 Argh

Its also a really good way to avoid having to pay your players.

"What you want me to pay you? But I have family to worry about? Who would provide for them when I am gone? You wouldn't take money from a dying man's family?"

Its cynical, but it wouldn't be the first time that a CEO used illness as an excuse not to pay his players.


It's death. It's not just an illness, it's arguably the worst illness. It's not a good way to avoid paying anything. It's a terrible way. You die. Why don't all the CEO's of every company just commit suicide to avoid- OH RIGHT death. If that's truly what you feel is going on keep it to yourself.

He's saying he may be lying about the illness, durrrr


why would anyone lie about a terminal illness? do you know what happens with terminal illnesses? YOU DIE. you can't really fake that. this thread is an embarrassment.


You really have no idea what is going on here do you?
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
knOxStarcraft
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada422 Posts
March 17 2014 03:06 GMT
#96
On March 17 2014 12:03 negativedge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 11:51 knOxStarcraft wrote:
On March 17 2014 10:47 Arghmyliver wrote:
On March 17 2014 10:03 Plansix wrote:
On March 17 2014 09:59 Arghmyliver wrote:
You guys are all bastards. Whether it's true or not there is absolutely no excusable reason to be a douche to someone with a terminal illness. I hope to christ he doesn't read these comments. Think before you post for pity's sake. Thought this was a really cool team name and at least one of the players has come forward with an incredibly positive post about his time on the team. If there is any humanity left in the world let it be sent to this man who was paying for an SC2 team out of pocket in his last time on earth. You all should be horribly ashamed.

To those who posted positive things, thank you for your shred of decency towards your fellow man in this bleak fucking fanbase.

Peace and Love to all.
<3 Argh

Its also a really good way to avoid having to pay your players.

"What you want me to pay you? But I have family to worry about? Who would provide for them when I am gone? You wouldn't take money from a dying man's family?"

Its cynical, but it wouldn't be the first time that a CEO used illness as an excuse not to pay his players.


It's death. It's not just an illness, it's arguably the worst illness. It's not a good way to avoid paying anything. It's a terrible way. You die. Why don't all the CEO's of every company just commit suicide to avoid- OH RIGHT death. If that's truly what you feel is going on keep it to yourself.

He's saying he may be lying about the illness, durrrr


why would anyone lie about a terminal illness? do you know what happens with terminal illnesses? YOU DIE. you can't really fake that. this thread is an embarrassment.

Yes I am aware what terminal illness means, thank you. He may be lying to get out of harms way, hoping people would just forget once enough time passes. Of course there are far better lies to tell in this sort of situation but it doesn't rule out the possibility.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 03:14:01
March 17 2014 03:12 GMT
#97
On March 17 2014 12:03 negativedge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 11:51 knOxStarcraft wrote:
On March 17 2014 10:47 Arghmyliver wrote:
On March 17 2014 10:03 Plansix wrote:
On March 17 2014 09:59 Arghmyliver wrote:
You guys are all bastards. Whether it's true or not there is absolutely no excusable reason to be a douche to someone with a terminal illness. I hope to christ he doesn't read these comments. Think before you post for pity's sake. Thought this was a really cool team name and at least one of the players has come forward with an incredibly positive post about his time on the team. If there is any humanity left in the world let it be sent to this man who was paying for an SC2 team out of pocket in his last time on earth. You all should be horribly ashamed.

To those who posted positive things, thank you for your shred of decency towards your fellow man in this bleak fucking fanbase.

Peace and Love to all.
<3 Argh

Its also a really good way to avoid having to pay your players.

"What you want me to pay you? But I have family to worry about? Who would provide for them when I am gone? You wouldn't take money from a dying man's family?"

Its cynical, but it wouldn't be the first time that a CEO used illness as an excuse not to pay his players.


It's death. It's not just an illness, it's arguably the worst illness. It's not a good way to avoid paying anything. It's a terrible way. You die. Why don't all the CEO's of every company just commit suicide to avoid- OH RIGHT death. If that's truly what you feel is going on keep it to yourself.

He's saying he may be lying about the illness, durrrr


why would anyone lie about a terminal illness? do you know what happens with terminal illnesses? YOU DIE. you can't really fake that. this thread is an embarrassment.


To avoid foreclosure and debt. My law firm deals with people claiming that a debtor passed away all the time, which turn out to be lies. But it takes months to uncover that it that buys them more time to do whatever it is they are doing. I have had to appear as a witness in cases were people were charged with fraud for doing it. Or lying about their children serving over seas and being killed on active duty. The woman who did that is serving 10 years.

People do shady shit when they owe money. From all reports this guy is not one of them and good luck to him and his family, but people do it all the time.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
iarekorea
Profile Joined February 2008
United States11 Posts
March 17 2014 03:14 GMT
#98
On March 17 2014 11:01 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 10:47 Arghmyliver wrote:
On March 17 2014 10:03 Plansix wrote:
On March 17 2014 09:59 Arghmyliver wrote:
You guys are all bastards. Whether it's true or not there is absolutely no excusable reason to be a douche to someone with a terminal illness. I hope to christ he doesn't read these comments. Think before you post for pity's sake. Thought this was a really cool team name and at least one of the players has come forward with an incredibly positive post about his time on the team. If there is any humanity left in the world let it be sent to this man who was paying for an SC2 team out of pocket in his last time on earth. You all should be horribly ashamed.

To those who posted positive things, thank you for your shred of decency towards your fellow man in this bleak fucking fanbase.

Peace and Love to all.
<3 Argh

Its also a really good way to avoid having to pay your players.

"What you want me to pay you? But I have family to worry about? Who would provide for them when I am gone? You wouldn't take money from a dying man's family?"

Its cynical, but it wouldn't be the first time that a CEO used illness as an excuse not to pay his players.


It's death. It's not just an illness, it's arguably the worst illness. It's not a good way to avoid paying anything. It's a terrible way. You die. Why don't all the CEO's of every company just commit suicide to avoid- OH RIGHT death. If that's truly what you feel is going on keep it to yourself.



You are confused. People have LIED about illnesses before, including terminal ones, to not pay their players. That is why people are so cynical about it. This is not the first time this has happened and a team shut down because someone got "sick".

Its why we take it all with a grain of salt.


Yes, we all should be a bit skeptical, but some people in this thread are literally laughing at someone dying. It makes me cringe reading some of these posts. What if he actually does have a termial illness? Wouldn't you people feel disgusted with yourselves for saying those things? Why don't we all just reserve judgment until we find out more?
azMaverick
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Last Edited: 2014-03-17 03:15:21
March 17 2014 03:15 GMT
#99
So many heartless people in this community. Everyone thinks everything is a scam, what happened to humanity???
Only a man who knows what it is like to be defeated can reach down to the bottom of his soul and come up with the extra ounce of power it takes to win when the match is even.
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March 17 2014 03:15 GMT
#100
Sheesh guys

Innocent until proven guilty
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