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[SPL'14] Round 2 Week 4 Lineups - Page 3

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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
March 14 2014 10:27 GMT
#41
fuck didn't expect terminator, but it's obvious since rogue isn't there, he is on my anti
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Achmoulin
Profile Joined December 2013
Sweden63 Posts
March 14 2014 11:46 GMT
#42
Can anybody tell me why some players have "gold" status in proleague? It's not winning an ace match, right?
discator
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany639 Posts
March 14 2014 11:51 GMT
#43
Damm those are some hard matches for marineking! gogo MKP!!!~~
;;
LeviathanDK
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark87 Posts
March 14 2014 12:02 GMT
#44
Why is state not playing?? I want to see him lose and go 0-20
NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
March 14 2014 12:03 GMT
#45
Flash vs Rain!
sacade
Profile Joined January 2013
166 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 12:26:54
March 14 2014 12:12 GMT
#46
On March 14 2014 20:46 Achmoulin wrote:
Can anybody tell me why some players have "gold" status in proleague? It's not winning an ace match, right?


It's the players who did race war.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Race_War


edit: fail
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 14 2014 12:24 GMT
#47
On March 14 2014 21:12 sacade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 20:46 Achmoulin wrote:
Can anybody tell me why some players have "gold" status in proleague? It's not winning an ace match, right?


It's the players who did race war.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Race_War

no it's not, it's the players who are among the highest of their race in maps won so far in SPL
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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sagi
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland346 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 12:27:37
March 14 2014 12:26 GMT
#48
On March 14 2014 14:40 illidanx wrote:
what's wrong with the trading value? Bbyong is higher than Rain, Soulkey. Even Fantasy is higher than Soulkey. And lol Hydra at the top.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Its most likely due to the algorithm they use that weights the players according to the propability they will score points. Previous round many players dropped to zero when the last week's lineups were released and their teams were not playing anymore. If I remember correctly, when the player was not on the roster but their team was, their points were not zero as there was some propability for them to play in the ace match and score 1 team point.

This time, CJ has still three matches while SKTT1 has only two. Thus CJ players have more chances to score points next week. We know the lineups for the first matches played now on week 4. My guess is that the algorithm even sees the KT vs SKTT1 match and that all the players there have hard opponents, making their propability to score points lower. However this kind of detail going into individual match propabilities would be some serious voodoo magic.

P.S. trade all Jin Air and Samsung players that aren't worth two rounds this week. If history repeats itself they will drop to 0 points since the teams wont play anymore.
hi patrik!
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
March 14 2014 12:29 GMT
#49
#freeByun
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 14 2014 12:29 GMT
#50
adjusted value only takes into account number of matches left as well as points scored so far and initial cost - it doesn't see which teams are up against which or which opponents the player have. the points for last round dropped to zero in the last week since those players didn't have any games left -> zero potential to score points -> zero value!
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 12:31:29
March 14 2014 12:31 GMT
#51
On March 14 2014 19:15 Arceus wrote:
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On March 14 2014 17:36 opterown wrote:
On March 14 2014 15:42 padiseal2 wrote:
I don't get prime at all. Where did Kal go? That dude player 10 times better than choya. Looks like they already lost their hope.

lolwat look at kal's games again, he looks extremely mediocre

Better than a defloss no? Kal could pull some clever builds like he did in the beginning too
I'd put choya in the same league as Barbie really

at this point i'm willing to say kal is as much a defloss as terror, he can get some good early game builds but he falls apart so horribly a few minutes in. choya can do better (he was top30 GM last time he streamed - which isn't everything, but i'm pretty sure choya is better than kal)
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 14 2014 12:32 GMT
#52
Who's that eins guy?
sagi
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland346 Posts
March 14 2014 12:37 GMT
#53
On March 14 2014 21:29 opterown wrote:
adjusted value only takes into account number of matches left as well as points scored so far and initial cost - it doesn't see which teams are up against which or which opponents the player have. the points for last round dropped to zero in the last week since those players didn't have any games left -> zero potential to score points -> zero value!


Good to know for us hardcore proleaguers like myself, who barely manage to reach top 300 despite greatest efforts.

My other guess would've been that the points are decided by R1CH and staff based on whether they liked the players' shoes last week.
hi patrik!
Achmoulin
Profile Joined December 2013
Sweden63 Posts
March 14 2014 13:02 GMT
#54
On March 14 2014 21:24 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 21:12 sacade wrote:
On March 14 2014 20:46 Achmoulin wrote:
Can anybody tell me why some players have "gold" status in proleague? It's not winning an ace match, right?


It's the players who did race war.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Race_War

no it's not, it's the players who are among the highest of their race in maps won so far in SPL

Thx


on a diffrent topic in my Fantasy proleague I can only switch BByong for other Terrans and Solar for other Zergs but I haven't read anywhere that this must be the case. All the other races are coloured grey. Is it a mistake?
sagi
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland346 Posts
March 14 2014 13:07 GMT
#55
On March 14 2014 22:02 Achmoulin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 21:24 opterown wrote:
On March 14 2014 21:12 sacade wrote:
On March 14 2014 20:46 Achmoulin wrote:
Can anybody tell me why some players have "gold" status in proleague? It's not winning an ace match, right?


It's the players who did race war.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Race_War

no it's not, it's the players who are among the highest of their race in maps won so far in SPL

Thx


on a diffrent topic in my Fantasy proleague I can only switch BByong for other Terrans and Solar for other Zergs but I haven't read anywhere that this must be the case. All the other races are coloured grey. Is it a mistake?


You must have atleast one player from each race. At the moment you have BByong as your only terran and Solar as your only zerg. Trade one protoss to zerg or terran if you want to trade one of those you mentioned to players with other races.
hi patrik!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 14 2014 13:10 GMT
#56
RorO vs MKP ;oooooo
Flash vs Rain ;ooooooooo

Awww didn't get a Maru vs MKP that would of been cooool xD
Was going QQ and say why is Maru kept being sent out as pick 4 ;_; means we don't get to see him as much, but they put him pick 1 in prime game.
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
March 14 2014 14:19 GMT
#57
A great race mix, should be very good matches this week
Get off my lawn, young punks
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
March 14 2014 14:21 GMT
#58
On March 14 2014 21:26 sagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 14:40 illidanx wrote:
what's wrong with the trading value? Bbyong is higher than Rain, Soulkey. Even Fantasy is higher than Soulkey. And lol Hydra at the top.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Its most likely due to the algorithm they use that weights the players according to the propability they will score points. Previous round many players dropped to zero when the last week's lineups were released and their teams were not playing anymore. If I remember correctly, when the player was not on the roster but their team was, their points were not zero as there was some propability for them to play in the ace match and score 1 team point.

This time, CJ has still three matches while SKTT1 has only two. Thus CJ players have more chances to score points next week. We know the lineups for the first matches played now on week 4. My guess is that the algorithm even sees the KT vs SKTT1 match and that all the players there have hard opponents, making their propability to score points lower. However this kind of detail going into individual match propabilities would be some serious voodoo magic.

P.S. trade all Jin Air and Samsung players that aren't worth two rounds this week. If history repeats itself they will drop to 0 points since the teams wont play anymore.


thanks. that makes me reconsider my trades.
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 14:49:55
March 14 2014 14:47 GMT
#59
On March 14 2014 18:45 Fuell wrote:
0 classic 0 rogue t-t

Maybe because Rogue is at the IEM, don't really know, I am also sad that Rogue won't play. :/

Matches that I am looking forward to:

RorO vs. MKP
Flash vs. Rain
Zest vs. Soulkey
DRG vs. Cure
Byul vs. Bbyong
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
March 14 2014 15:04 GMT
#60
ByuN... so much ByuN
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