this is really sad
he was like a version of idra that was actually good at the game. polarizing, but actually able to back up trash talking with results. he will be missed
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fishjie
United States1519 Posts
this is really sad he was like a version of idra that was actually good at the game. polarizing, but actually able to back up trash talking with results. he will be missed | ||
Meepman
Canada610 Posts
On one hand, we lose a foreigner who could consistently play against koreans with results. On the other, we lose a foreigner who would consistently shit-talk and just be a massive douche. | ||
TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On March 13 2014 08:42 Meepman wrote: Don't know how I feel about this, really. On one hand, we lose a foreigner who could consistently play against koreans with results. On the other, we lose a foreigner who would consistently shit-talk and just be a massive douche. Results > feels | ||
Boucot
France15997 Posts
On March 13 2014 08:08 Zealously wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2014 08:06 Fus wrote: On March 13 2014 07:49 thirtyapm wrote: well i guess scarlett becomes the undisputed best foreigner then. until she takes an indefinite break heh, or state catches up. True but we don't hear alot from Scarlett recently. And i would not put State in top 20 foreigner. Scarlett is going to Korea in a few weeks, and State just joined Prime and is said to consistently hang around the upper half of KR GM. I don't think there are 20 foreigners that could do the same. Happy is pretty much #1 on EU ladder for 3 years and still hasn't been able to reach the Ro4 of a big tournament. You know that the ladder means nothing. | ||
oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On March 13 2014 08:42 Meepman wrote: Don't know how I feel about this, really. On one hand, we lose a foreigner who could consistently play against koreans with results. On the other, we lose a foreigner who would consistently shit-talk and just be a massive douche. NaNiwa is just blunt. He will say what he thinks without hiding anything. If you want to surf for analogs, you don't need to bring IdrA. Go, look at Doublelift, one of best adcs in the world. (League of Legends, right). He's trash-talking like hella a lot but he delivers after it in 90%. Same with NaNi and you just can't have every player like HuK, who will cry if someone like Thoorin speaks about him as asshole. On March 13 2014 08:52 Boucot wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2014 08:08 Zealously wrote: On March 13 2014 08:06 Fus wrote: On March 13 2014 07:49 thirtyapm wrote: well i guess scarlett becomes the undisputed best foreigner then. until she takes an indefinite break heh, or state catches up. True but we don't hear alot from Scarlett recently. And i would not put State in top 20 foreigner. Scarlett is going to Korea in a few weeks, and State just joined Prime and is said to consistently hang around the upper half of KR GM. I don't think there are 20 foreigners that could do the same. Happy is pretty much #1 on EU ladder for 3 years and still hasn't been able to reach the Ro4 of a big tournament. You know that the ladder means nothing. Not a lot of foreigners can be added to official roster of KeSPA team. I highly doubt that there are at least 10 possible figures in the world right now. | ||
nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On March 13 2014 08:31 fishjie wrote: wow huge news this is really sad he was like a version of idra that was actually good at the game. polarizing, but actually able to back up trash talking with results. he will be missed idra has a more recent premier tournament win than naniwa just sayin ![]() | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On March 13 2014 08:52 Boucot wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2014 08:08 Zealously wrote: On March 13 2014 08:06 Fus wrote: On March 13 2014 07:49 thirtyapm wrote: well i guess scarlett becomes the undisputed best foreigner then. until she takes an indefinite break heh, or state catches up. True but we don't hear alot from Scarlett recently. And i would not put State in top 20 foreigner. Scarlett is going to Korea in a few weeks, and State just joined Prime and is said to consistently hang around the upper half of KR GM. I don't think there are 20 foreigners that could do the same. Happy is pretty much #1 on EU ladder for 3 years and still hasn't been able to reach the Ro4 of a big tournament. You know that the ladder means nothing. That doesn't change what I said. There probably aren't 20+ players that could hang around the top of the Korean ladder that aren't Korean. Tournament results aren't relevant to the question. | ||
zanga
659 Posts
Two ro8 in the hardest version of Code Se and imo the undisputed foreigner hope... Time for some dramatic conclusions I guess: RIP sc2 since nobody will care now that there is nobody (non-korean) fighting at Naniwa's level or even close... GG blizz and yeah..... Let's all just watch Rollplay instead I guess. . . . . | ||
zanga
659 Posts
Big respect to Naniwa for keeping it real, and not just hanging around at a shitty level which he knows he is so so far above when he actually has a fire for the game. ![]() | ||
GraphismeGG
Canada15 Posts
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On March 13 2014 09:06 zanga wrote: Also: Big respect to Naniwa for keeping it real, and not just hanging around at a shitty level which he knows he is so so far above when he actually has a fire for the game. ![]() dude, nice job hijacking nani's thread with your own retirement. you will be missed /sarcasm btw, you say you respect nani for this. But really what is boils down to is "I'm not practicing, but I'll stay play tournaments from time to time." He's pulling a Stephano. He wants to play less, but still enjoy the spotlight. | ||
RageCommodore
Germany912 Posts
Still, farewell Nani, those were some big plays you pulled across your career. Taking a break might be the best decision when you're not hot for the game anymore. Maybe it will come back (it did for me), maybe it won't. | ||
zanga
659 Posts
On March 13 2014 09:13 TRaFFiC wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2014 09:06 zanga wrote: Also: Big respect to Naniwa for keeping it real, and not just hanging around at a shitty level which he knows he is so so far above when he actually has a fire for the game. ![]() dude, nice job hijacking nani's thread with your own retirement. you will be missed /sarcasm btw, you say you respect nani for this. But really what is boils down to is "I'm not practicing, but I'll stay play tournaments from time to time." He's pulling a Stephano. He wants to play less, but still enjoy the spotlight. I'm sure you made a great point, but the question I ask myself is, what will I eat for lunch tomorrow? Only time will tell... =) | ||
Thrill
2599 Posts
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4ZakeN87
Sweden1071 Posts
On March 13 2014 08:08 Zealously wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2014 08:06 Fus wrote: On March 13 2014 07:49 thirtyapm wrote: well i guess scarlett becomes the undisputed best foreigner then. until she takes an indefinite break heh, or state catches up. True but we don't hear alot from Scarlett recently. And i would not put State in top 20 foreigner. Scarlett is going to Korea in a few weeks, and State just joined Prime and is said to consistently hang around the upper half of KR GM. I don't think there are 20 foreigners that could do the same. Not meaning to argue, but this hype around state, I dont get it. Can someone link me a vod that gives me some reason to believe in any of this hype? The play that I have seen from in the past, although being limited, does not come even close to it. Okay he got picked up by a korean team, well so did Fenix too. Only problem in this story was that this recruitment was the last we heard about Fenix before he disappeared in the "no longer relavent pro player" mist. So I am not holding my breath quite yet ^^ | ||
Musicus
Germany23570 Posts
On March 13 2014 06:14 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2014 06:09 radscorpion9 wrote: I'm still not a fan of Naniwa, but I'd be happy if he switched to something else he enjoys. Maybe he can be the next star in Hearthstone ![]() NaNiwa? Hearthstone? :D It's like calling him to play in team with Loda and Forest and win TI5. Show nested quote + On March 13 2014 06:14 Musicus wrote: I hope this means 1 more slot in the open bracket. No hopes for you. Let us to clap for our hero once more, probably last time. Well it won't be pretty if he didn't touch the game for over a month. Didn't expect him to travel there, he rarely went to events if he wasn't prepared. | ||
MidnightZL
Sweden203 Posts
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On March 13 2014 08:56 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2014 08:42 Meepman wrote: Don't know how I feel about this, really. On one hand, we lose a foreigner who could consistently play against koreans with results. On the other, we lose a foreigner who would consistently shit-talk and just be a massive douche. NaNiwa is just blunt. He will say what he thinks without hiding anything. If you want to surf for analogs, you don't need to bring IdrA. Go, look at Doublelift, one of best adcs in the world. (League of Legends, right). He's trash-talking like hella a lot but he delivers after it in 90%. Same with NaNi and you just can't have every player like HuK, who will cry if someone like Thoorin speaks about him as asshole. Show nested quote + On March 13 2014 08:52 Boucot wrote: On March 13 2014 08:08 Zealously wrote: On March 13 2014 08:06 Fus wrote: On March 13 2014 07:49 thirtyapm wrote: well i guess scarlett becomes the undisputed best foreigner then. until she takes an indefinite break heh, or state catches up. True but we don't hear alot from Scarlett recently. And i would not put State in top 20 foreigner. Scarlett is going to Korea in a few weeks, and State just joined Prime and is said to consistently hang around the upper half of KR GM. I don't think there are 20 foreigners that could do the same. Happy is pretty much #1 on EU ladder for 3 years and still hasn't been able to reach the Ro4 of a big tournament. You know that the ladder means nothing. Not a lot of foreigners can be added to official roster of KeSPA team. I highly doubt that there are at least 10 possible figures in the world right now. Haha do not compare Naniwa to Doublelift. Dlift talks trash and pokes fun at his competitors, but he respects them as people and doesn't spend all day talking about how Riot is stupid and how he knows better. Nani is not "just blunt." He really does have a distasteful personality. That being said he is an amazing player, which is the only reason someone like him can get by in the scene | ||
Vertigro
United Kingdom261 Posts
On March 13 2014 08:30 Agathon wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2014 07:15 Vertigro wrote: Naniwa is the last true personality left in the foreign sc community... suddenly the game seems quite a bit more boring (and its already reached a level of dullness) Since when you have to insult your opponents and blame anything but yourself when you lose to have a "true personality"? MC has no personality? Targa ? Mana ? Huk? Catz ? I'm happy for the SC2 scene today and I hope he'll never come back. Being different is good, being an ass like Idra or Naniwa is a shame. Just my 2 cents. I personally find MC irritating... but that's the point! How you just expressed your feelings over players like Idra and Naniwa shows that they are indeed personalities! In my opinion, Naniwa is an extraordinarily honest, and hard-working player and his opinions, whilst either loved or hated, draw the audience in... you either want him to win, or you want him to lose; and that im afraid is what draws a lot of people into sport... storyline and drama. | ||
Gen.Rolly
United States200 Posts
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