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StarDust and San interviews: Road to IEM

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Last Edited: 2014-04-03 13:52:50
March 12 2014 12:30 GMT
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IEM World Championship 2014: Pre-tournament Interviews

Oz and Revival — MaNa and Nerchio — StarDust and San — jjakji and TaeJa
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StarDust and San

Interviews by Waxangel

On March 13th, some of the best StarCraft 2 players in the world will gather in Katowice, Poland for a shot at winning the Intel Extreme Masters World Championship and its $100,000 grand prize. Not just the grand prize, but only prize.

IEM's decision to make the World Championship winner-take-all has been controversial, with some fans eagerly anticipating the heightened stakes, and other fans angered by the inequitable distribution of prizes.

But what do the players think? We talked to (P)yoe.San and (P)mYi.StarDust, two of the underdog Koreans, about their thoughts on the stacked tournament.

Interviews have been edited and condensed.

mYi.StarDust

"I know what the most popular build is, even if it's not the best build. But I don't like to copy that build, because then there will be nothing that makes me different from everyone else. So instead, I try to use builds that counter the most popular builds."


How are you feeling ahead of the tournament? Has it been hard adjusting to the balance patch?
Hmm, personally I'm doing alright. I actually thought Terran players were so bad that they needed an advantage. A few Terrans were constantly working hard to find a solution, but the rest of them were only complaining. The hydra buff, Ican't really tell how much it's increased their efficiency.

Do you think you're one of the championship contenders at IEM? What do you think of your chances?
Usually I don't have a huge amount of confidence in my skill, but looking at the roster ahead of this tournament there's a lot of Protoss players. PvP is half/half, so I think I have a shot. Even so, it will be hard to take first place. I think bracket luck, as well as my condition when I arrive at the tournament, will be very important.

Your PvP win rate over the last few months is incredibly high. Why do you think it's a half/half match-up?
Personally I'm confident but... When I go into game at a tournament, I start feeling uncomfortable and afraid. I've come to the weird conclusion that I'm confident but it's still half/half. In other match-ups, if there's a big enough skill difference, you can even get to the level where you almost never lose. PvP's not like that.

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The players have split opinions on the winner-take-all $100,000 grand prize. What are your thoughts on it?
There's been a lot of talk around it... I don't think it's good. It feels like you're making 15 losers for the sake of one winner. In other tournaments if you get knocked out in the semis, then you can still recover yourself thinking that you've at least made some prize money.

For second to fourth place at IEM... I think there will be some damage, especially for second place. And if you lose the final 4:3? Just thinking about it makes me shudder.

If two of my friends play in a final, I usually go to the loser first to give him encouragement since the winner is always happy regardless of the prize money. This time around, I don't think I'll be able to approach the loser, lol... As a joke we say it's retirement for the loser.

San says it's suicide.
That kid doesn't have a thought in his head. Please edit his interview, you're not supposed to use such extreme expressions, lol.

Have you thought about where you'd use the $100,000 if you did win?
There's so many things I want to do... I guess around $70,000 would be left after taxes? I'll nomnom on about $40,000 for myself and give $30,000 away to charity, so please cheer for me.

Donate to who?
Uh, smart students who don't have money, LOL. And of course I'm not just saying this because I don't think I have a chance

You've been in Europe a while. Do you think you've assimilated somewhat?
No, I don't think so at all. I may be living on the continent of Europe, but I spend so much time in the team house. When I go out and try to talk to regular people, they have a hard time understanding me at first because my pronunciation is poor.

Still, you must feel like you have an advantage over some of the players at IEM due to your experience traveling to and competing at European tournaments.
Yes, I do benefit from that point, but on the other hand, living in Europe means I can't practice with Korean players... I think that disadvantage might outweigh the advantages.

When Korean players see a good build, they all work to develop that build, tweak it into a version of their own.

Foreigners all have builds that are uniquely their own, so sometimes when I play them I think "ah, this isn't something a Korean would ever do" and think that it's just not useful practice.

What do you think of Polt then, who is actually enjoying the best results of his career after moving abroad?
I think that players like Polt who have the ability to create their own style of play can succeed abroad. Some players have a very stubborn and rigid way of thinking, I don't think they would do well abroad. Polt hyung lives is in a world of his own, and he works to improve inside that world. I think that's why he can do well.

Even before I started playing SC2, he was already famous as 'the Marauder from Seoul National University.' He hasn't changed the larger framework of his play, and he's continuing to improve on his own terms.

Also, you can play on Korea from the US... T_T

Don't you think you're a creative player as well? For instance, your unique PvZ style helped you win the DreamHack Summer championship.
This is the way I am: I know what the most popular build is, even if it's not the best build. But I don't like to copy that build, because then there will be nothing that makes me different from everyone else. So instead, I try to use builds that counter the most popular builds.

My games tend to be either really long or really short. It's tough to figure out a timing in the middle of a build, you have to go by feel. So I prefer to just keep increasing my lead incrementally and taking it to a late game where I can't lose.

Who do you think will win IEM?
I think sOs probably has the highest chance. Watching him in individual leagues, he wins so easily. Especially in GSL.

When you watch SC2, there are players who win because they win because they are good, and players who 'just' win. I think he's both. Me, I think I'm the type who wins because I HAVE to win.

I'll pretend I understood that.
LOL. I mean, it's like....

sOs knows how to take the initiative and control the course of the game, and he makes timings where he knows he can win. Part of that is because of his ability to make builds. In any case, he's on a roll right now and I think he'll do well.

If your girlfriend was kidnapped by Somalian pirates, which three progamers would you take along with you on a rescue mission?
MC is rich, so I'll throw him to the pirates as bait. Then I'll go in for the rescue with Stork.

Why Stork?
He's a ghost!

What about the third member?
Don't need one, I don't think it would be worth the risk to take another person. What would I be worried about, we have a ghost in the party! A Darth Vader ghost at that...

Okay, any final comments or shoutouts before the tournament?
RIP Naniwa.

You can follow StarDust at:
Twitter: @StardustSC2
Stream: 90Stardust


yoe.San

"We joke around and say that if you take second place you'd probably kill yourself, but really, I think it would be alright... I'd feel very empty and deflated, but it would still be an interesting experience in life and people would give you a lot of attention. I'd have to take some solace in the WCS points."


How are you feeling ahead of IEM Katowice?
When I first heard that they were only giving prize money to the winner, I thought man... why can't they just do it like last year, this is some serious business right here.

But right now, it actually feels like a relief because my skill has dropped so much. Last year there was a prize difference between each round, and it would have been disappointing to lose in the earlier rounds. This year 16th place and 2nd place are the same, so I feel like there will be less pressure.

I've been practicing hard in the lead up to the tournament, but I don't know if it will be enough.

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But if you DID take second, the mental damage would be substantial.
ROFL. We joke around and say that if you take second place you'd probably kill yourself, but really, I think it would be alright... I'd feel very empty and deflated, but it would still be an interesting experience in life and people would give you a lot of attention. I'd have to take some solace in the WCS points

Has your mindset changed after finally winning a big tournament?
It's just made me think that I want to try harder and win a championship again. I don't have a trophy T_T [ASUS ROG Winter did not award a physical trophy]

Did you end up taking the novelty check back to Korea at least?
Yes... From Finland to Switzerland to Germany to Finland to Korea... the edges have become rags.

What are your thoughts on the new balance patch?
Me, as well as my friends Daisy and PartinG, we're just cursing as we ladder together T_T. But I'm repenting as I watch GSL and see Protosses advance.

Your PvP played a big part in you winning ASUS ROG. Do you think the nerfed MSC scouting has made it a more random match-up? How do you feel about the prospect of playing many PvPs as IEM?
I don't MSC scout much in PvP so it doesn't change much for me in PvP. But since I keep losing PvZ and PvT after the patch... StarCraft 2 is a game of mentality, and because my mentality is broken from PvZ/PvT right now, I'm losing PvP as well. I've become awful at SC2 lately, and rather than hope to do well, I just just hope that I can avoid playing embarrassing games.

Any players you want to face? Any you want to avoid?
I want to avoid Terrans. Especially TaeJa, these days he's showing god-like gameplay.

Who do you think will win the tournament?
If it's Protoss then sOs, if Terran then TaeJa.

Any final comments then?
Thanks for the interview. IEM is the big tournament that wraps up an entire year, so I think it will be a great memory for me just to have been there. Cheer for me please!


You can follow San at:
Twitter: @SC2San
Stream: SanWon



Interviews: Waxangel
Photos: Manu Tenhunen (SETT), 7mk, ESL
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March 12 2014 12:31 GMT
#2
30.000$ donation? GO STARDUST
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March 12 2014 12:33 GMT
#3
On March 12 2014 21:31 739 wrote:
30.000$ donation? GO STARDUST


i couldn't tell if he was joking or not, let's savor the mystery
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March 12 2014 12:37 GMT
#4
MC as bait ahahaha
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Sweden189 Posts
March 12 2014 12:42 GMT
#5
Geat interviews Waxangel! All of my support for StarDust, and he better man up to the 30k to charity! ^^
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France231 Posts
March 12 2014 12:44 GMT
#6
Stardust saying terran players are bad and that they need an advantage to win. right
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Katowice25012 Posts
March 12 2014 12:48 GMT
#7
Stardust and San are some of my new-ish favorites. What honorable men.
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March 12 2014 12:50 GMT
#8
RIP Nani... LOVE IT
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Australia12814 Posts
March 12 2014 12:51 GMT
#9
Thanks for these interviews! When was that stork ceremony from btw?
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France15997 Posts
March 12 2014 12:51 GMT
#10
TIL San is "awful" at StarCraft. God dammit.
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Sweden5451 Posts
March 12 2014 12:59 GMT
#11
rip nani!
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March 12 2014 12:59 GMT
#12
On March 12 2014 21:51 bo1b wrote:
Thanks for these interviews! When was that stork ceremony from btw?

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Sweden1903 Posts
March 12 2014 13:15 GMT
#13
I really enjoy these interviews, really good job hyping the tournament =) Thanks Wax and TL!
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March 12 2014 13:33 GMT
#14
hm looks like sOs is a lot scarier in the eyes of other progamers than i thought. Although i thought he would take it i would not have expected other progamers to fear him o.O
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March 12 2014 13:52 GMT
#15
If sOs wins this, he's #5 on SC2 Earnings (surpassing Stephano), with 80% of his prize money coming from only two tournaments.

He'd be "Mr. 100k"
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March 12 2014 14:18 GMT
#16
These are awesome thanks for hyping this up!
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March 12 2014 14:30 GMT
#17
where is the pirate question in san's interview?
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March 12 2014 14:32 GMT
#18
Rip Naniwa. Wow.
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Japan2053 Posts
March 12 2014 14:47 GMT
#19
What is this quip about naniwa? Is he retiring?
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Last Edited: 2014-03-12 14:53:03
March 12 2014 14:52 GMT
#20
Great interviews, thanks.

Dat Naniwa comment by SD LOL
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March 12 2014 14:53 GMT
#21
On March 12 2014 23:47 herMan wrote:
What is this quip about naniwa? Is he retiring?

He may be. He has been saying how much he has hated the game recently due to swarm hosts or something.

Or it may be a joke from Stardust who knows.
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March 12 2014 15:02 GMT
#22
On March 12 2014 22:52 patermatrix wrote:
If sOs wins this, he's #5 on SC2 Earnings (surpassing Stephano), with 80% of his prize money coming from only two tournaments.

He'd be "Mr. 100k"

Fruitdealer is still in top25 of sc2erarnings and >85% of $$ came from single tournament.
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Canada1169 Posts
March 12 2014 15:15 GMT
#23
Wait was that photo taken by this Jussi Jaaskelainen :o
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March 12 2014 15:35 GMT
#24
If StarDust gets to MC-level English, that kid's going to go far. That's an awesome personality to have, in addition to being a high-caliber player.
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March 12 2014 15:39 GMT
#25
StarDust is too funny. MC as bait and RIP NaNiwa!

If there is something about the guy to like its the humour!
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March 12 2014 16:01 GMT
#26
Dat Stardust shoutout
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March 12 2014 16:59 GMT
#27
I really wish I could go to the event in Poland but sadly I'm too poor TT I'm sure if the top few players are friends or practice partners the prize will be split somehow but getting second will still be deflating.

GL to the Protoss... NOT :D
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March 12 2014 17:13 GMT
#28
Stardust gained a fan. <3 What a classy, funny guy
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March 12 2014 17:15 GMT
#29
Trashtalk? Or actually announcing something...
Please be trashtalk...
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Last Edited: 2014-03-12 17:29:57
March 12 2014 17:25 GMT
#30
We continue oru series of IEM World championship interviews.

oru

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United States23455 Posts
March 12 2014 17:39 GMT
#31
On March 13 2014 00:35 Battousai13 wrote:
If StarDust gets to MC-level English, that kid's going to go far. That's an awesome personality to have, in addition to being a high-caliber player.

His English is pretty close to MC Level!
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March 12 2014 18:00 GMT
#32
MC is rich lol
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March 12 2014 18:14 GMT
#33
Hilarious answers from SD. This plus his new shows makes me want to root for him even more.
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March 12 2014 18:16 GMT
#34
I genuinely fear for the mental well being of whoever comes in second at IEM.
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March 12 2014 19:35 GMT
#35
Is it bad that StarDust's interview makes me kind of wish TL had a sidebar with just Naniwa tweets?
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March 12 2014 19:51 GMT
#36
Geez isn't Stardust a generous man.
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March 12 2014 19:58 GMT
#37
On March 12 2014 23:53 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 23:47 herMan wrote:
What is this quip about naniwa? Is he retiring?

He may be. He has been saying how much he has hated the game recently due to swarm hosts or something.

Or it may be a joke from Stardust who knows.


He wrote in his fanclub that he'll probably retire after IEM. He also stated that he hasn't played a game in a month.
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March 12 2014 20:49 GMT
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Nomnomnomnomnomnom
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March 12 2014 21:09 GMT
#39
Honestly the players are full of shit. There is no way they don't under the table divide first and second to like 70k-30k or something. Too much variance otherwise
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March 12 2014 23:05 GMT
#40
Great interviews of both players! Stardust's words on Polt's, sOs's, and his own playstyles are quite interesting. And he says some funny stuff
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March 13 2014 02:19 GMT
#41
LOL StarDust needs to win this.
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March 13 2014 02:30 GMT
#42

If your girlfriend was kidnapped by Somalian pirates, which three progamers would you take along with you on a rescue mission?
MC is rich, so I'll throw him to the pirates as bait. Then I'll go in for the rescue with Stork.


hahah stardust so funny :D
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March 13 2014 02:36 GMT
#43
On March 13 2014 11:30 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +

If your girlfriend was kidnapped by Somalian pirates, which three progamers would you take along with you on a rescue mission?
MC is rich, so I'll throw him to the pirates as bait. Then I'll go in for the rescue with Stork.


hahah stardust so funny :D

Did they ask anyone else that question?
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March 13 2014 02:41 GMT
#44
Hmm apparently Taeja has been tearing it up lately according to San? Must be a beast on ladder atm. Of course he comes on strong when 100k is at stake
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March 13 2014 02:43 GMT
#45
On March 13 2014 11:36 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 11:30 NovemberstOrm wrote:

If your girlfriend was kidnapped by Somalian pirates, which three progamers would you take along with you on a rescue mission?
MC is rich, so I'll throw him to the pirates as bait. Then I'll go in for the rescue with Stork.


hahah stardust so funny :D

Did they ask anyone else that question?

The question's been around for quite a while, but in this series of IEM WC interviews only Mana and Nerchio have also been asked it.
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Canada33091 Posts
March 13 2014 02:44 GMT
#46
On March 13 2014 11:43 slowbacontron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 11:36 IntoTheheart wrote:
On March 13 2014 11:30 NovemberstOrm wrote:

If your girlfriend was kidnapped by Somalian pirates, which three progamers would you take along with you on a rescue mission?
MC is rich, so I'll throw him to the pirates as bait. Then I'll go in for the rescue with Stork.


hahah stardust so funny :D

Did they ask anyone else that question?

The question's been around for quite a while, but in this series of IEM WC interviews only Mana and Nerchio have also been asked it.

Haha thanks. They were pretty good but I preferred SD's solution.
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Last Edited: 2014-03-13 03:15:03
March 13 2014 03:14 GMT
#47
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Switzerland8970 Posts
March 13 2014 03:14 GMT
#48
Awesome answers from Stardust!
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Poland1435 Posts
March 13 2014 10:52 GMT
#49
On March 13 2014 06:09 RaiderRyan wrote:
Honestly the players are full of shit. There is no way they don't under the table divide first and second to like 70k-30k or something. Too much variance otherwise


How the heck is "too much variance otherwise" a legitimate point supporting what you're saying? In the Olympics, only top 3 people from who knows how many contenders (depends on the discipline, but can get much more than just 16) get medals and money, and yet nobody ever accused them of something like that?
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United States1229 Posts
March 13 2014 15:34 GMT
#50
Honestly, in the days of every tournament practically sticking to the 10k for winner, 4k for loser etc, etc it's really hard to stick out. Especially if IEM wants this "Championship" to stand out among the crowds and the other stops of their IEM tournaments, so doing a one off of 100k winner take all is a good chance to do that. It's been talked about for awhile now, and with so many tournaments including WCS there is a good infrastructure in place to support the players away from this tournament, so having a one off like this shouldn't be too bad. Not to mention it could severely change the winner's life, and that's a good thing imo.
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