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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 08 2014 05:21 GMT
#41
On February 08 2014 14:18 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 13:51 xsnac wrote:
meh , is cool when @ zerg you put soulkey wich is the BEST yet @ terrans you put taeja instead of innovation or bomber.

From a year overall perspective Innovation and Bomber aren't even close with Taeja regarding consistency.


I disagree with Innovation being inconsistent. From the release of HotS in March until the WCS Season 2 finals (late August), Innovation finished top 4 in every single Premier tournament he participated in. That is a period of nearly half of a year.

Not to mention he played a huge role in winning a Proleague championship, a GSTL championship, and an Acer Teamstory Cup championship.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
February 08 2014 05:23 GMT
#42
im surprised naniwa wasnt praised in the awards for also being the only foreigner to qualify top 16 for blizzcon finals, especially since korean dominance in tournaments was touched upon so heavily, i think that alone helps seal him as the top international player
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 08 2014 05:23 GMT
#43
Why isn't RorO in the nominees for zerg when he won Gom zerg of the year?
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33339 Posts
February 08 2014 05:24 GMT
#44
poor sOs, didn't even win an award

at least he gets the FP photo ^_^
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 05:28:29
February 08 2014 05:25 GMT
#45
On February 08 2014 14:21 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 14:18 digmouse wrote:
On February 08 2014 13:51 xsnac wrote:
meh , is cool when @ zerg you put soulkey wich is the BEST yet @ terrans you put taeja instead of innovation or bomber.

From a year overall perspective Innovation and Bomber aren't even close with Taeja regarding consistency.


I disagree with Innovation being inconsistent. From the release of HotS in March until the WCS Season 2 finals (late August), Innovation finished top 4 in every single Premier tournament he participated in. That is a period of nearly half of a year.

Not to mention he played a huge role in winning a Proleague championship, a GSTL championship, and an Acer Teamstory Cup championship.

While on the other hand he also lose enough important games to players at the time he is supposed to beat, but how many about Taeja? In one line Innovation disappointed much more than Taeja did.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 05:27:56
February 08 2014 05:26 GMT
#46
On February 08 2014 14:18 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 13:51 xsnac wrote:
meh , is cool when @ zerg you put soulkey wich is the BEST yet @ terrans you put taeja instead of innovation or bomber.

From a year overall perspective Innovation and Bomber aren't even close with Taeja regarding consistency, let alone championship titles, yes being WCS Season Finals champions is a great feat but winning a whopping five premier tournaments across over half a year against same caliber of players is hands down a bigger achievement.

Yes he won a lot of stuff, but you have to look at the competition there too...
Homestory cup 7 wasn't really that impressive and at Asus he really didn't have strong opponents either..
He didn't really make any impact in the WCS events, i feel this time he really got a TL bonus (even though he is an amazing player)
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 08 2014 05:28 GMT
#47
I feel like Maru at least deserved a mention for player of the year though. he's not even listed in the nominees even though he won OSL and got top 4 at WCS KR S3, S3 finals, and Blizzcon. he was the only terran player to win a series against a toss at Blizzcon and in 2 of the tournaments he got knocked out by the champion.
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Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
February 08 2014 05:29 GMT
#48
On February 08 2014 14:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 14:18 digmouse wrote:
On February 08 2014 13:51 xsnac wrote:
meh , is cool when @ zerg you put soulkey wich is the BEST yet @ terrans you put taeja instead of innovation or bomber.

From a year overall perspective Innovation and Bomber aren't even close with Taeja regarding consistency, let alone championship titles, yes being WCS Season Finals champions is a great feat but winning a whopping five premier tournaments across over half a year against same caliber of players is hands down a bigger achievement.

Yes he won a lot of stuff, but you have to look at the competition there too...
Homestory cup 7 wasn't really that impressive and at Asus he really didn't have strong opponents either..
He didn't really make any impact in the WCS events, i feel this time he really got a TL bonus (even though he is an amazing player)


I just don't see who is better. If you combined Innovation's March-August with Dear's September-December you'd get a better player, but no one really had a consistent 2013 at all.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
February 08 2014 05:29 GMT
#49
This is sick! I agree with most of the awards, except for Polt the true American hero not being considered a foreigner
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 05:31:34
February 08 2014 05:30 GMT
#50
On February 08 2014 14:07 opterown wrote:
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On February 08 2014 13:51 xsnac wrote:
meh , is cool when @ zerg you put soulkey wich is the BEST yet @ terrans you put taeja instead of innovation or bomber.

bomber wat


BOMBER #1

also that paragraph about taeja's 5 wins being equal to 3 GSL wins + some other stuff is pretty funny, yeah taeja won 5 tournaments but only one of them was a big tournament. two HSC's in there.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 08 2014 05:31 GMT
#51
On February 08 2014 14:25 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 14:21 Bagration wrote:
On February 08 2014 14:18 digmouse wrote:
On February 08 2014 13:51 xsnac wrote:
meh , is cool when @ zerg you put soulkey wich is the BEST yet @ terrans you put taeja instead of innovation or bomber.

From a year overall perspective Innovation and Bomber aren't even close with Taeja regarding consistency.


I disagree with Innovation being inconsistent. From the release of HotS in March until the WCS Season 2 finals (late August), Innovation finished top 4 in every single Premier tournament he participated in. That is a period of nearly half of a year.

Not to mention he played a huge role in winning a Proleague championship, a GSTL championship, and an Acer Teamstory Cup championship.

While on the other hand he also lose enough important games to players at the time he is supposed to beat, but how many about Taeja?


Taeja vs. elfi multiple times.
Taeja has also lost to Major in WCS AM
Taeja was eliminated in WCS Season 3 Ro16 by Heart

It's not like Taeja's been upset-proof either. Frankly no player in the scene hasn't had their share of embarrassing upsets, including Mvp, MMA, Life, Nestea, MC ...
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 08 2014 05:32 GMT
#52
On February 08 2014 14:29 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 14:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 08 2014 14:18 digmouse wrote:
On February 08 2014 13:51 xsnac wrote:
meh , is cool when @ zerg you put soulkey wich is the BEST yet @ terrans you put taeja instead of innovation or bomber.

From a year overall perspective Innovation and Bomber aren't even close with Taeja regarding consistency, let alone championship titles, yes being WCS Season Finals champions is a great feat but winning a whopping five premier tournaments across over half a year against same caliber of players is hands down a bigger achievement.

Yes he won a lot of stuff, but you have to look at the competition there too...
Homestory cup 7 wasn't really that impressive and at Asus he really didn't have strong opponents either..
He didn't really make any impact in the WCS events, i feel this time he really got a TL bonus (even though he is an amazing player)


I just don't see who is better. If you combined Innovation's March-August with Dear's September-December you'd get a better player, but no one really had a consistent 2013 at all.


Same with Taeja. He only qualified for the WCS Season finals one time (out of 3). That's not exactly consistency either
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
UberNuB
Profile Joined December 2010
United States365 Posts
February 08 2014 05:33 GMT
#53
I don't get how JD wasn't best Zerg.

Good article though, thanks!
the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 08 2014 05:35 GMT
#54
On February 08 2014 14:29 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 14:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 08 2014 14:18 digmouse wrote:
On February 08 2014 13:51 xsnac wrote:
meh , is cool when @ zerg you put soulkey wich is the BEST yet @ terrans you put taeja instead of innovation or bomber.

From a year overall perspective Innovation and Bomber aren't even close with Taeja regarding consistency, let alone championship titles, yes being WCS Season Finals champions is a great feat but winning a whopping five premier tournaments across over half a year against same caliber of players is hands down a bigger achievement.

Yes he won a lot of stuff, but you have to look at the competition there too...
Homestory cup 7 wasn't really that impressive and at Asus he really didn't have strong opponents either..
He didn't really make any impact in the WCS events, i feel this time he really got a TL bonus (even though he is an amazing player)


I just don't see who is better. If you combined Innovation's March-August with Dear's September-December you'd get a better player, but no one really had a consistent 2013 at all.

I am not even talking about consistency, i just say that of the 5 tournaments he won 3 of them were rather "easy" to win.
So i just don't see why the argument is his titles really, i think Maru's year was pretty great too for example.
But yeah whatever^^
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
February 08 2014 05:36 GMT
#55
On February 08 2014 14:32 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 14:29 Cheren wrote:
On February 08 2014 14:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 08 2014 14:18 digmouse wrote:
On February 08 2014 13:51 xsnac wrote:
meh , is cool when @ zerg you put soulkey wich is the BEST yet @ terrans you put taeja instead of innovation or bomber.

From a year overall perspective Innovation and Bomber aren't even close with Taeja regarding consistency, let alone championship titles, yes being WCS Season Finals champions is a great feat but winning a whopping five premier tournaments across over half a year against same caliber of players is hands down a bigger achievement.

Yes he won a lot of stuff, but you have to look at the competition there too...
Homestory cup 7 wasn't really that impressive and at Asus he really didn't have strong opponents either..
He didn't really make any impact in the WCS events, i feel this time he really got a TL bonus (even though he is an amazing player)


I just don't see who is better. If you combined Innovation's March-August with Dear's September-December you'd get a better player, but no one really had a consistent 2013 at all.


Same with Taeja. He only qualified for the WCS Season finals one time (out of 3). That's not exactly consistency either


If you only look at WCS, Soulkey is probably player of the year, but no one really had consistent results in WCS. If you look at all premier tournaments, Taeja has the best results.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 08 2014 05:41 GMT
#56
On February 08 2014 14:36 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 14:32 Bagration wrote:
On February 08 2014 14:29 Cheren wrote:
On February 08 2014 14:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 08 2014 14:18 digmouse wrote:
On February 08 2014 13:51 xsnac wrote:
meh , is cool when @ zerg you put soulkey wich is the BEST yet @ terrans you put taeja instead of innovation or bomber.

From a year overall perspective Innovation and Bomber aren't even close with Taeja regarding consistency, let alone championship titles, yes being WCS Season Finals champions is a great feat but winning a whopping five premier tournaments across over half a year against same caliber of players is hands down a bigger achievement.

Yes he won a lot of stuff, but you have to look at the competition there too...
Homestory cup 7 wasn't really that impressive and at Asus he really didn't have strong opponents either..
He didn't really make any impact in the WCS events, i feel this time he really got a TL bonus (even though he is an amazing player)


I just don't see who is better. If you combined Innovation's March-August with Dear's September-December you'd get a better player, but no one really had a consistent 2013 at all.


Same with Taeja. He only qualified for the WCS Season finals one time (out of 3). That's not exactly consistency either


If you only look at WCS, Soulkey is probably player of the year, but no one really had consistent results in WCS. If you look at all premier tournaments, Taeja has the best results.


And that's the problem. The award makes sense if you consider that all premier tournaments are roughly equal, which isn't the case. sOs's win at Blizzcon probably equals 3 of Taeja's tournament wins frankly.

And the award also under-emphasizes teamleague performance. Taeja couldn't even maintain a 50% winrate in Proleague
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33339 Posts
February 08 2014 05:41 GMT
#57
wow KeSPA even had fucking kpop at their awards

AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
FlyingSteaks
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil433 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 05:41:51
February 08 2014 05:41 GMT
#58
I only disagree with chosen rivalry (should be Soulkey vs Innovation) and the Terran/player being awarded to Taeja, the rest is spot on I think
kuan888
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada305 Posts
February 08 2014 05:44 GMT
#59
Naniwa and Scarlett, yay !
What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. -Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche ||| Acer.Scarlett <3
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
February 08 2014 05:44 GMT
#60
It was certainly an year for great games.
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
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