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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
January 08 2014 07:59 GMT
#41
(T)Legend 0-2 (P)Creator Code A Qualifiers.
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
January 08 2014 08:06 GMT
#42
On January 08 2014 16:59 LockeTazeline wrote:
(T)Legend 0-2 (P)Creator Code A Qualifiers.

I hope all this means he's going back to casting GSL.

He's so much better than the observer Proleague has, it's making me miss good observing.
Flash | Mvp
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
January 08 2014 08:11 GMT
#43
I really think Legend was the guy to do it, but he picked probably the worst possible time to try.

Maybe some day we'll see team epic. Right now we don't need more splitting teams, we need consolidation.
Akaann
Profile Joined May 2011
Switzerland82 Posts
January 08 2014 08:20 GMT
#44
On January 08 2014 17:06 Ctesias wrote:
He's so much better than the observer Proleague has, it's making me miss good observing.


True, the PL observers are pretty bad. And they don't listen to the english casters, cant tell how many times wolf said, what he would love to see now, and they never showed it.
But the PL can't reach GSTL in every way. I mean wolf is a good caster, but who is this other guy? why not Khaldor? Why not Tastosis?
The games are good, but the coverage of GSTL was so much better. I allready miss it
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Profile Joined November 2011
Jamaica921 Posts
January 08 2014 08:45 GMT
#45
Very smart decision Legend. Any new team is bound to fail with the way sc2 is headed..
Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly - Bob Marley
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 08 2014 08:55 GMT
#46
On January 08 2014 13:09 Dodgin wrote:
At least he realized it wouldn't work and backed out instead of going through with it and failing miserably.


Sons of Starcraft!
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
January 08 2014 08:57 GMT
#47
On January 08 2014 17:20 Akaann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 17:06 Ctesias wrote:
He's so much better than the observer Proleague has, it's making me miss good observing.


True, the PL observers are pretty bad. And they don't listen to the english casters, cant tell how many times wolf said, what he would love to see now, and they never showed it.
But the PL can't reach GSTL in every way. I mean wolf is a good caster, but who is this other guy? why not Khaldor? Why not Tastosis?
The games are good, but the coverage of GSTL was so much better. I allready miss it


Why not? Because Gom is in direct competition with OGN and blocked off the ability for their casters to cast for OGN while under contracts most likely. This is probably true seeing as how the two networks have been at each other's throats to get OSL/GSL featured or de-listed from the WCS by blizzard. Sad to say that even though I think the Korean SC2 scene needs co-operation between the major organizations it's obviously not happening.
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Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
January 08 2014 09:35 GMT
#48
Legend of the Swarm 2.0.
DinoToss
Profile Joined August 2013
Poland507 Posts
January 08 2014 09:39 GMT
#49
On January 08 2014 17:57 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 17:20 Akaann wrote:
On January 08 2014 17:06 Ctesias wrote:
He's so much better than the observer Proleague has, it's making me miss good observing.


True, the PL observers are pretty bad. And they don't listen to the english casters, cant tell how many times wolf said, what he would love to see now, and they never showed it.
But the PL can't reach GSTL in every way. I mean wolf is a good caster, but who is this other guy? why not Khaldor? Why not Tastosis?
The games are good, but the coverage of GSTL was so much better. I allready miss it


Why not? Because Gom is in direct competition with OGN and blocked off the ability for their casters to cast for OGN while under contracts most likely. This is probably true seeing as how the two networks have been at each other's throats to get OSL/GSL featured or de-listed from the WCS by blizzard. Sad to say that even though I think the Korean SC2 scene needs co-operation between the major organizations it's obviously not happening.

You mean in the past? OGN is not doing SC2 anymore.
My wrist really started to flare up. My colossi number started to pile up and with the last of my concentration I prepared for a win.
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
January 08 2014 11:13 GMT
#50
Team Epic Fail rofl.....
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
January 08 2014 11:22 GMT
#51
I would be happy with only Kespa teams of like 8-10 and have the scene be stable
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3691 Posts
January 08 2014 11:31 GMT
#52
We still have a few weeks till code s right? I guess he should be back in time to observer
monsta
Profile Joined November 2012
172 Posts
January 08 2014 12:11 GMT
#53
epik fail
Bjarne
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany192 Posts
January 08 2014 12:31 GMT
#54
On January 08 2014 14:16 LongShot27 wrote:
The guys saying "Starcraft is fine, you guys are overreacting" haven't showed up yet. Have they finally come to grips with reality?


No, these guys easily sit on 14K viewers for EU WCS Qualifiers (!) and a thrilling new proleague.
SC2 scene was ok with only eSF and is ok with only KeSPA. Only BOTH of them was too much...
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algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
January 08 2014 12:43 GMT
#55
On January 08 2014 13:22 Kinky wrote:
Wonder what his role on Startale will be now.

Dishwasher
rly ?
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
January 08 2014 12:54 GMT
#56
I'm feeling bad for such teams who in earnest, are just trying to make a name for themselves.
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
January 08 2014 13:09 GMT
#57
On January 08 2014 13:15 Adebisi wrote:
RIP


RIP in Peace indeed, oh well better luck next time.

STLegend hwaiting ♥
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
Comadevil
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany214 Posts
January 08 2014 13:10 GMT
#58
On January 08 2014 16:35 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 16:25 Dodgin wrote:
On January 08 2014 16:19 Xiphos wrote:
SC2's future depends on the continuation of PL in 2015.

Sponsors are attracted to viewers, viewers like highest gameplays, those gameplays are created by tight team supports and infrastructures. If PL cease to exists, teams will disband, level of play will go down, people will cease to tune in, and sponsors will be alienated.

PL 2014 is SC2's last stand.


This is a little over dramatic, even without teams, GSL will probably continue via blizzard sponsorship. It's definitely SC2 in Korea's team league last stand, though.


Team disbanding > level of play falling > less people watching GSL.

Only a matter of time Blizzard decide to pull the plug.


Team disbanding does not cause the level of play to fall. It causes more likely that less skilled players fall out of the roosters instead cause there are less team spots.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 08 2014 13:18 GMT
#59
this name and the fail... oh god :D, glad he realised it that early instead of making debts or something
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
January 08 2014 13:52 GMT
#60
with no gstl and soon no esf. it would have made no sense
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
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