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WCS AM 2014 S1 Qualifier Registrations Now Open - Page 51

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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 07 2014 18:20 GMT
#1001
On January 08 2014 03:02 Zenbrez wrote:
Mrbitter is getting interviewed about this today apparently. Prepare for the most loaded fluff you've yet to see this year.

I hope its not just PR crap.
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
January 07 2014 18:23 GMT
#1002
On January 08 2014 03:02 Zenbrez wrote:
Mrbitter is getting interviewed about this today apparently. Prepare for the most loaded fluff you've yet to see this year.

By onGamers?
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 07 2014 18:24 GMT
#1003
On January 08 2014 03:20 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 03:02 Zenbrez wrote:
Mrbitter is getting interviewed about this today apparently. Prepare for the most loaded fluff you've yet to see this year.

I hope its not just PR crap.

He is likely to just give the nuts and bolts of what happened and they Blizzard opted to postpone. Maybe some stuff on how they plan to improve. I would expect anything ground breaking.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 18:31:02
January 07 2014 18:30 GMT
#1004
probably going say its the players fault for getting confused about the 200 wins requirement and not understanding the blizzard handbook fully

NASL tried to help the players understand, but there were too many players who could not grasp the rulings, so NASL generously offered to redo the qualifier at another time and date instead of disqualifying (like 90%) of the players
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 07 2014 18:33 GMT
#1005
I really do want to know the number of players without 200 wins. If it is 80-90% then setting a new date is the best thing to for the viewers and the event itself.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
January 07 2014 18:37 GMT
#1006
Someone said it was 18 guys with 200 wins. If true that is pretty abysmal, and would have turned the qualifiers into a travesty.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
January 07 2014 18:47 GMT
#1007
To bad liquipedia gave up saving the ladder standings at end of seasons.
Or is there a way to write a quick script to extract the info from Bnet like they do for WoW.
I bet my toe R1ch could hack that together and TL could hold these qualifiers with 1 day prep.

May the qualifier on the 9th run more smooth than the others.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 18:53:57
January 07 2014 18:53 GMT
#1008
On January 08 2014 03:37 Squat wrote:
Someone said it was 18 guys with 200 wins. If true that is pretty abysmal, and would have turned the qualifiers into a travesty.


Rotterdam and MrBitter said that (only 18 players with 200 wins) on stream i think?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 07 2014 18:55 GMT
#1009
On January 08 2014 03:20 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 03:02 Zenbrez wrote:
Mrbitter is getting interviewed about this today apparently. Prepare for the most loaded fluff you've yet to see this year.

I hope its not just PR crap.

"I know we were hyper critical of MLG's handling of the qualifiers last year, and we have made an even bigger mockery of it than they did, but please guys be understanding!"
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 07 2014 19:03 GMT
#1010
On January 08 2014 03:55 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 03:20 NovaMB wrote:
On January 08 2014 03:02 Zenbrez wrote:
Mrbitter is getting interviewed about this today apparently. Prepare for the most loaded fluff you've yet to see this year.

I hope its not just PR crap.

"I know we were hyper critical of MLG's handling of the qualifiers last year, and we have made an even bigger mockery of it than they did, but please guys be understanding!"

I think they are both fucked up in equal, but different ways. Counting to 200 is hard.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1841 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 19:11:59
January 07 2014 19:11 GMT
#1011
On January 08 2014 03:53 mikumegurine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 03:37 Squat wrote:
Someone said it was 18 guys with 200 wins. If true that is pretty abysmal, and would have turned the qualifiers into a travesty.


Rotterdam and MrBitter said that (only 18 players with 200 wins) on stream i think?



More of a situation where neither of them knew the rules. The website (Run by NASL) clearly states 200 wins from last season or this season . Everyone got confused the wins had to come from this season and the shit show commenced.

It was wise, in my opinion, to hit the reset button and start fresh.
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
January 07 2014 19:14 GMT
#1012
On January 08 2014 04:03 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 03:55 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 08 2014 03:20 NovaMB wrote:
On January 08 2014 03:02 Zenbrez wrote:
Mrbitter is getting interviewed about this today apparently. Prepare for the most loaded fluff you've yet to see this year.

I hope its not just PR crap.

"I know we were hyper critical of MLG's handling of the qualifiers last year, and we have made an even bigger mockery of it than they did, but please guys be understanding!"

I think they are both fucked up in equal, but different ways. Counting to 200 is hard.

Hey that's a big number, I can only really count to 7, so I made sure to win 7 games 3 times, that should be at least 200 right?

How hard can it be, really, the information was everywhere. What made this fuck up so epic was that everyone did seemingly everything wrong. It was a like a perfect storm of fail. First the circus show that was saturday, and then completely canceling the event and postponing because no one had a clue what was going on. Imagine what it must look like for a sponsor who might be new to Esports.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 07 2014 19:19 GMT
#1013
On January 08 2014 04:11 Ctone23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 03:53 mikumegurine wrote:
On January 08 2014 03:37 Squat wrote:
Someone said it was 18 guys with 200 wins. If true that is pretty abysmal, and would have turned the qualifiers into a travesty.


Rotterdam and MrBitter said that (only 18 players with 200 wins) on stream i think?



More of a situation where neither of them knew the rules. The website (Run by NASL) clearly states 200 wins from last season or this season . Everyone got confused the wins had to come from this season and the shit show commenced.

It was wise, in my opinion, to hit the reset button and start fresh.

I don't think that was as big of a problem as people think. The second season wasn't that old and it seems a lot of players didn't have enough wins with both combined. I think it might have been the fact that NASL never expected the 200 win requirement to be an issue at all.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
TiberiusAk
Profile Joined August 2011
United States122 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 19:22:39
January 07 2014 19:22 GMT
#1014
On January 08 2014 03:53 mikumegurine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 03:37 Squat wrote:
Someone said it was 18 guys with 200 wins. If true that is pretty abysmal, and would have turned the qualifiers into a travesty.


Rotterdam and MrBitter said that (only 18 players with 200 wins) on stream i think?

It looked like the 18 said on stream was actually a reference about the number of qualification slots left for WCS AM across all remaining qualifiers, because well...there are 18 slots, but there were actually 21 players in the updated brackets they released around the same time.

Edit: clarified
"I like the new weapon, it's solid removal with a really nice deathrattle in a mech deck. The murloc is a little confusing though, not sure why they thought shamans needed a murloc."
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 22:58:23
January 07 2014 22:55 GMT
#1015
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/26513-nasl-postpones-wcs-america-ladder-wildcard-qualifier-due-to-rule-ambiguity

Some more comments from NASL on what happened.

"Our admin emailed DeMusliM instructions, but DeMusliM never filled out the registration form on Binary Beast. [...] He was expected to register like any other player during the registration window, which regrettably did not happen."

Most interesting part personally. This is about the first qualifier
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
January 07 2014 23:02 GMT
#1016
On January 08 2014 07:55 NovaMB wrote:
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/26513-nasl-postpones-wcs-america-ladder-wildcard-qualifier-due-to-rule-ambiguity

Some more comments from NASL on what happened.

Show nested quote +
"Our admin emailed DeMusliM instructions, but DeMusliM never filled out the registration form on Binary Beast. [...] He was expected to register like any other player during the registration window, which regrettably did not happen."

Most interesting part personally. This is about the first qualifier

They also claim dozens of players didn't register at all (like Nathan for example), when they in fact did. It's not possible all those people happened to dream registering.
Refer to my post.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 23:07:45
January 07 2014 23:07 GMT
#1017
On January 08 2014 08:02 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 07:55 NovaMB wrote:
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/26513-nasl-postpones-wcs-america-ladder-wildcard-qualifier-due-to-rule-ambiguity

Some more comments from NASL on what happened.

"Our admin emailed DeMusliM instructions, but DeMusliM never filled out the registration form on Binary Beast. [...] He was expected to register like any other player during the registration window, which regrettably did not happen."

Most interesting part personally. This is about the first qualifier

They also claim dozens of players didn't register at all (like Nathan for example), when they in fact did. It's not possible all those people happened to dream registering.

Yeah it reads like a giant "not our fault". And BinaryBeast says its not their fault either. So either one of those 2 is lying or the players are, which I doubt, but you never know
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
January 07 2014 23:14 GMT
#1018
On January 08 2014 08:02 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 07:55 NovaMB wrote:
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/26513-nasl-postpones-wcs-america-ladder-wildcard-qualifier-due-to-rule-ambiguity

Some more comments from NASL on what happened.

"Our admin emailed DeMusliM instructions, but DeMusliM never filled out the registration form on Binary Beast. [...] He was expected to register like any other player during the registration window, which regrettably did not happen."

Most interesting part personally. This is about the first qualifier

They also claim dozens of players didn't register at all (like Nathan for example), when they in fact did. It's not possible all those people happened to dream registering.

For some reason I can't load the interview (ERROR 500) but I just wanted to add, that Mr. Bitter said on ESGN that Binarybeast is currently going through updates for their webpage and they belive that the registrations got lost because of that.
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
January 07 2014 23:54 GMT
#1019


which gives us http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/articles/ladder-wildcard-clarification-and-update

For Season 1 of 2014, we will be allowing an exception for players attempting to get their 200 wins before the European or American Ladder Wildcard qualifier. Seasons 2 and 3 of 2014 will operate rule 1.0 – G in the WCS Player Handbook.

Season 1 2014 Ladder Wildcard Requirements Exception
Players with 200 wins on one account on the region’s host ladder cumulative between 2013 Season 6 and 2014 Season 1 will be eligible to compete in Ladder Wildcard Qualifiers for all remaining spots without meeting any residency or citizenship requirements. The host ladder is the “Americas” server for WCS America and “Europe” server for WCS Europe. Wins will not be added between multiple accounts.

Players must register for the qualifier with the StarCraft II Character ID and Code with 200 wins. Admins may request players change their Character ID with the Season 1 2014 Free Name Change to allow for efficient administration of the tournament.

The masters requirement (section 1.0 – A in the WCS Player Handbook) still applies to all Ladder Wildcard qualifiers.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 08 2014 01:11 GMT
#1020
On January 08 2014 08:02 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 07:55 NovaMB wrote:
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/26513-nasl-postpones-wcs-america-ladder-wildcard-qualifier-due-to-rule-ambiguity

Some more comments from NASL on what happened.

"Our admin emailed DeMusliM instructions, but DeMusliM never filled out the registration form on Binary Beast. [...] He was expected to register like any other player during the registration window, which regrettably did not happen."

Most interesting part personally. This is about the first qualifier

They also claim dozens of players didn't register at all (like Nathan for example), when they in fact did. It's not possible all those people happened to dream registering.


rofl what fuckers of course they would do that. I know for a fact I signed up day 1 and I got removed. Other people even said they saw my name when they registered. Doesn't surprise me that NASL would try to make it sound like it's not their fault. Really hope someone else does it next season but I doubt it.
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