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Don't Get Fined - WCS 2014 Handbook - Page 4

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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
December 20 2013 15:40 GMT
#61
I think many people dont like "he has to be manner in this tournament". It can produce "faceless" foreigners :D

what if a job interviewer (like RedEye/Incontrol/MrBitter) ask a player after the game some cocky questions like "protoss is a strong race isnt it?" It is a bit difficult to give a mannered answer to this question :D
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
December 20 2013 15:43 GMT
#62
On December 21 2013 00:32 tili wrote:
Show nested quote +
Players may switch races after each match.


O-o
has this ever been done in WCS?


Yep. Tilea and maybe Kawaiirice too did it in WCS AM.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
LaO-Tyros_Reffa
Profile Joined May 2005
Netherlands50 Posts
December 20 2013 15:44 GMT
#63
On December 21 2013 00:38 ACrow wrote:
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On December 21 2013 00:22 Jonoman92 wrote:
Seems mostly fine to me except for no chatting. Players with personality are what people want. In my ideal ruleset there would be bonus prize pool money for best trasher talker.

There are plenty other tournaments with a more relaxed setting and giving trash talk the room some people want it to have. I prefer the flagship tournament of SC2, which is WCS, to be the most professional possible.
This also allows the Red Bull Battlegrounds and HSC to be all the more special.


There's different types of 'trash talking'. It needn't be offensive, necessarily.
Also, you write "I prefer the flagship tournament of SC2, which is WCS, to be the most professional possible". So, 'more professional' = NO chat/talking at all?
brieN
Profile Joined November 2011
United States158 Posts
December 20 2013 15:46 GMT
#64
i like how everything on here is exactly what online gaming is, yet people try to act so pc, i hate especially in america how talking trash is considered awful, when it is a part of human nature. lame
check yo self befo yo wreck yo self
psychotics
Profile Joined July 2011
United States184 Posts
December 20 2013 15:48 GMT
#65
why are u all so upset about the no chat? i watch these matchs for the games not to read chat. the only time ingame chat happens is when its rage/trashtalking, and if i wanted to see that id just watch one of the many idra rage vids on youtube.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 15:51:45
December 20 2013 15:48 GMT
#66
On December 21 2013 00:21 AlternativeEgo wrote:
No replays? Is that the screams of anger by the European ex. wc3 players that I hear from afar? ;D

wc3 players didnt care about replays, they just release replays asap because seeing it werent useful.
I didnt miss a single replay!

Your chance to win vs x after watching a replay from him is like ~5% higher.
In sc2 rather 20-30% higher chance to win.
That's why I dont want that they release replays.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Scones
Profile Joined June 2012
Wales99 Posts
December 20 2013 15:50 GMT
#67
Can someone explain why you aren't allowed to chat?! I'm sure that would limit the personalities of some players

Is it to stop bad language, or to stop distracting your opponent or something else?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 20 2013 15:52 GMT
#68
On December 21 2013 00:37 DnCL wrote:
I was sad about the chat rule too. I think the less delay thing is really good from the watching point of view, but will we see less adaptation in series. I tought it was really exciting when people adapted to each other in series. Will this still be possible without replays.

People could be considered ready to play within 60 secs while they are watching a replay. You can go out very fast, if it was not for the requirement of being in X chatroom. Not sure if they could make it so the chatroom appears while they watch replay, is there such a thing .

Doing so would be classified as cheating by expressly trying to bypass a rule. And allowing players to review replays lowers the over all skill of the set of games, because it doesn't reward the player who can make good reads souring the game and get information just by playing against someone.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
December 20 2013 15:54 GMT
#69
On December 21 2013 00:50 Scones wrote:
Can someone explain why you aren't allowed to chat?! I'm sure that would limit the personalities of some players

Is it to stop bad language, or to stop distracting your opponent or something else?

That comes from Kespa and I think they are trying to unify the scene as much as possible.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
December 20 2013 15:54 GMT
#70
omg that naniwa picture
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Asjo
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Denmark664 Posts
December 20 2013 15:56 GMT
#71
Sad to see some of these rules. Most of them make sense, even if they are a bit inflexible, but some are downright silly and hurt the character of the tournament. Thing always become less colorful when there's no room for anything that not "neat and proper". Chat can definitely add something to the came, so it's sad to see that this is outright banned. The language requirements is one of the worst things, since it restrains the players from expressing themselves how they naturally would like it. It's not those things where it's just sad that money, not common sense, rules, like with swear words being "beeped" in the United Stated. It also doesn't make sense that the tournaments organizers want to make themselves masters of whether the players take illegal substances or consume alcohol. The players will do what they feel best about, and obviously the players are there to compete, so they wont' show up shitfaced if they care about the competition. Shoutcasters not being allowed to comment negatively on players is outrageous. I don't really envision it being enforced, but if it makes the shoutcasters more nervous about what they can say, we are all worse off.

Of course, the positive connotation is that it's likely due to sponsor influence, which means that the sponsors, even if misguided, are quite invested in the event. And despite my reservations, I think it's likely that the more bad rules will not be enforced, but will just be something the organizers keep at hand in case they need a reason to disqualify someone or keep them in line.
I am not sure what to say
1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
December 20 2013 15:56 GMT
#72
is there a rule against grubby not wearing soundproof headphones?
that'd be neat.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 16:00:21
December 20 2013 15:56 GMT
#73
On December 21 2013 00:50 Scones wrote:
Can someone explain why you aren't allowed to chat?! I'm sure that would limit the personalities of some players

Is it to stop bad language, or to stop distracting your opponent or something else?

Sponsors that don't want to take the risk of their brand being associated with some player going on a homophobic/racist freak out session when they lose a match. Or to prevent players from making off color comments during a match and provide a clear rule to deal with it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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TheManInBlack
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Nigeria266 Posts
December 20 2013 15:59 GMT
#74
No trash talking? I do not agree with that. Saying "fuck you" to another player after being tricked/cheesed/completely undone in the last game is excellent and really sets the stage for the next game.

Now we'll just see robots, foreigners with the same facial expressions as koreans and its a quick "play 3 matches and out".

Sircanis
Profile Joined July 2013
7 Posts
December 20 2013 16:00 GMT
#75
A lot of the rules, including the ones about alcohol and bad language, are "at the discretion of the tournament organizer." It still allows HomeStory Cup to be itself, while giving other tournaments the option to enforce things if they want. Seems pretty reasonable.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
December 20 2013 16:02 GMT
#76
On December 21 2013 00:59 TheManInBlack wrote:
No trash talking? I do not agree with that. Saying "fuck you" to another player after being tricked/cheesed/completely undone in the last game is excellent and really sets the stage for the next game.

Now we'll just see robots, foreigners with the same facial expressions as koreans and its a quick "play 3 matches and out".




Yes, you're so right. You're not exaggerating or anything. Get off this game, please.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 20 2013 16:05 GMT
#77
On December 21 2013 00:59 TheManInBlack wrote:
No trash talking? I do not agree with that. Saying "fuck you" to another player after being tricked/cheesed/completely undone in the last game is excellent and really sets the stage for the next game.

Now we'll just see robots, foreigners with the same facial expressions as koreans and its a quick "play 3 matches and out".


Saying fuck you is clearly offensive, and as such a breach of that rule as well. I'll just miss the kind of bizarre and hilarious conversations Stephano used to have in game with his opponent.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
December 20 2013 16:06 GMT
#78
I've seen that pic of Naniwa so many times but still to this day have no idea what's going on in it :/
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17891 Posts
December 20 2013 16:06 GMT
#79
i like how the prize money offending players are fined still gets paid out to other players removing any money motive for citing a rule violation.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
December 20 2013 16:06 GMT
#80
On December 21 2013 01:05 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 00:59 TheManInBlack wrote:
No trash talking? I do not agree with that. Saying "fuck you" to another player after being tricked/cheesed/completely undone in the last game is excellent and really sets the stage for the next game.

Now we'll just see robots, foreigners with the same facial expressions as koreans and its a quick "play 3 matches and out".


Saying fuck you is clearly offensive, and as such a breach of that rule as well. I'll just miss the kind of bizarre and hilarious conversations Stephano used to have in game with his opponent.



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