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SC2 Power Rank - December 2013 - Page 5

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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 03 2013 22:14 GMT
#81
Poll: Who would you have #1?

TaeJa (110)
 
60%

Dear (65)
 
36%

Other (7)
 
4%

182 total votes

Your vote: Who would you have #1?

(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): Dear
(Vote): Other

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perfidiusrex
Profile Joined December 2013
Belgium78 Posts
December 03 2013 22:17 GMT
#82
On December 04 2013 07:14 Shellshock wrote:
Poll: Who would you have #1?

TaeJa (110)
 
60%

Dear (65)
 
36%

Other (7)
 
4%

182 total votes

Your vote: Who would you have #1?

(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): Dear
(Vote): Other



im sort of surprised none of the first 5 players in wcs points are not in the poll
Jaedong fan
ArTiFaKs
Profile Joined September 2013
United States1229 Posts
December 03 2013 22:18 GMT
#83
I'd say the top 5 could all be switched around in some kind of order and it would make sense, that's just how volatile the top spots are right now. TaeJa has been most consistent but like other people have said, he's not facing the tippy-top Koreans on a consistent basis like the WCS Korea players are, and his results in the most prestigious events have been pretty disappointing IMO. You could make a case for Dear just because of his dominance in the top tier events. Although a lot of the people claiming bias or saying this is a travesty must not have read the disclaimer about the criteria before the ranking, and it's really hard to rank based on months and months of past results and present results. Recency-bias is always a factor when comparing past and present wins/losses. But I'd say it's a well put together PR, we shall see how this all plays out in the near future
There are things known, and things unknown, and in-between are the doors.
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
December 03 2013 22:19 GMT
#84
Care to remake that poll with the winner of the Hot6ix cup vs Taeja after the tournament is over?

People just vote for what's freshest in their memory.
jonnybravo
Profile Joined July 2013
United States2 Posts
December 03 2013 22:20 GMT
#85
On December 04 2013 07:05 Assirra wrote:
This is so hilariously biassed.
Not by putting Taeja on number one, but for some reason power rank pops up right at the time when Taeja is number 1.
What a funny coincidence.


Don't they do it at the beginning of the month?
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
December 03 2013 22:20 GMT
#86
On December 04 2013 07:19 Cheren wrote:
Care to remake that poll with the winner of the Hot6ix cup vs Taeja after the tournament is over?

People just vote for what's freshest in their memory.

And if RorO wins we'll all be screwed.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-03 22:20:58
December 03 2013 22:20 GMT
#87
On December 04 2013 07:17 perfidiusrex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 07:14 Shellshock wrote:
Poll: Who would you have #1?

TaeJa (110)
 
60%

Dear (65)
 
36%

Other (7)
 
4%

182 total votes

Your vote: Who would you have #1?

(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): Dear
(Vote): Other



im sort of surprised none of the first 5 players in wcs points are not in the poll

I just made it based off what most people were complaining about. Other is there if you think someone else should get it. I think it would just get too complicated if I just put a whole bunch of names in the poll. Other keeps it simpler.
On December 04 2013 07:19 Cheren wrote:
Care to remake that poll with the winner of the Hot6ix cup vs Taeja after the tournament is over?

People just vote for what's freshest in their memory.

Sure I don't mind
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DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
December 03 2013 22:21 GMT
#88
S class of Taeja, Dear, sOs, Jaedong, Soulkey is very hard to distinguish imo. I think it goes something like that <-- but I'm not sure where the clear lines are as I feel I can switch everyone around in there.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-03 22:22:24
December 03 2013 22:21 GMT
#89
I think the list is fine if you don't take the order too seriously. I don't think you can really set the players on specific places, that's why i don't understand people who argue against specific places, just look at the 10 players and ask yourself if you can agree on them.
I am really happy that herO is on the list, i really like him (he seems so happy all the time) and his play is pretty solid too, i hope he owns proleague.
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caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
December 03 2013 22:21 GMT
#90
I'm not sure if this is appropriate, but Dear looks like he got caught in the Star Wars garbage compactor. Objectively, this means Taeja is #1
why?
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
December 03 2013 22:21 GMT
#91
On December 04 2013 07:20 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 07:19 Cheren wrote:
Care to remake that poll with the winner of the Hot6ix cup vs Taeja after the tournament is over?

People just vote for what's freshest in their memory.

And if RorO wins we'll all be screwed.


Hey if Dear loses to RorO I'll stop calling him the best in the world. I think everyone will.
DBS
Profile Joined July 2012
515 Posts
December 03 2013 22:22 GMT
#92
I think dear and taeja and that maru should have been higher and life lower. But pretty solid PR
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37058 Posts
December 03 2013 22:23 GMT
#93
YES! POWER RANK! :D
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
December 03 2013 22:23 GMT
#94
sos too high imo
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Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-03 22:27:30
December 03 2013 22:27 GMT
#95
I think I'd switch Inno and Maru, and bump Bomber above Parting. Otherwise I guess I'd agree.

I don't think Taeja at #1 has any business being disputed.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
December 03 2013 22:27 GMT
#96
Sad to see no special mention for Sora at least. I guess it's because he doesnt have the results yet but hes clearly a freaking monster.

/CJ bias
KnowNothing
Profile Joined December 2010
69 Posts
December 03 2013 22:28 GMT
#97
On December 04 2013 07:07 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 06:58 Lunareste wrote:
LOL Dear should be #1


Results:

Dear won WCS KR and WCS Season Finals, Taeja won 2 Dreamhacks and Homestory. In terms of prize money, advantage Dear.

Quality of Opponents:

Dear beat Maru (twice), soO, Soulkey, and, oh yeah, Taeja. He really only lost to Jaedong, but it was 2-3. What's Taeja's record against Jaedong?
1-7
Out of the top 8 players in WCS KR Season 3, Taeja has yet to play 6 of them in Heart of the Swarm. Clear, clear advantage to Dear.

Quality of Play:

Dear is the only Protoss winning with macro play and not all-ins. Taeja is doing the same bio builds as every other Terran.

A review, not a predictor:

Dear has had equal to better results than Taeja against much harder opponents. Against common opponents, Dear performs better. In a head-to-head, Dear won.


Writers, get more defensive.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
December 03 2013 22:30 GMT
#98
On December 04 2013 06:18 Harem wrote:
Jaedong is 4th since 2x2 equals 4.

Shouldn't he be tenth then?
Survivor61316
Profile Joined July 2012
United States470 Posts
December 03 2013 22:34 GMT
#99
Lol I love how they always try to qualify the PR by saying that it is not a scouting report on who will do well in the future...that's exactly what it is. Any ranking by its very nature is a prediction of who would do well in the future. Obviously no ranking is perfect, but its still a list of who is the best at this very moment, which in turn is a forecast of who would win if things stayed as they were at this time. Take the college football rankings for example, they are a prediction of who is the best team, even if they are never correct and often have much room for debate. It just rubs me the wrong way to qualify it as anything but a prediction for some reason. If you just want to list the previous results of players, there is no need to do a ranking system at all. Just list all the tournaments chronologically and say who took the top 3 or something. But a ranking is a ranking is a ranking.
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Tamagoshi
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil981 Posts
December 03 2013 22:36 GMT
#100
Thanks for the PR!

TaeJa <3

Were herO's games that impressive? I couldn't watch
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