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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
November 24 2013 22:12 GMT
#81
I like how the only two people Wax interviewed there are the guys that ended up in the final, that clairvoyance!

Quite appropriate also, 2012 WCS World Champion vs 2013 WCS World Champion.
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cpower
Profile Joined October 2013
228 Posts
November 25 2013 01:28 GMT
#82
On November 24 2013 23:43 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 23:18 DiMano wrote:
On November 24 2013 23:16 wrier wrote:
if he wins this then follows it up next week with a strong performance at Dreamhack, I will say he is one of the best. I still think Dear is the best Protoss.

I like how people forget about other players for example PartinG did not attend any big event but owned WCG and every online qualifiers he attented.

Parting failed to top 5 in the most recent GSL so wasn't at the season 3 finals, both tourneys won by Dear. He also didn't have the points to qualify for blizzcon so wasn't there either. There really isn't an argument for Parting as the best protoss atm. It's Dear and if not him it's sOs.

there are only 5 players in Korea that have made to GSL top 16 every season in 2013: Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Soo, Parting. Pretty impressive list, isn't it? He is still a top toss even in his down year.
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
November 25 2013 01:32 GMT
#83
On November 25 2013 10:28 cpower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 23:43 Scarecrow wrote:
On November 24 2013 23:18 DiMano wrote:
On November 24 2013 23:16 wrier wrote:
if he wins this then follows it up next week with a strong performance at Dreamhack, I will say he is one of the best. I still think Dear is the best Protoss.

I like how people forget about other players for example PartinG did not attend any big event but owned WCG and every online qualifiers he attented.

Parting failed to top 5 in the most recent GSL so wasn't at the season 3 finals, both tourneys won by Dear. He also didn't have the points to qualify for blizzcon so wasn't there either. There really isn't an argument for Parting as the best protoss atm. It's Dear and if not him it's sOs.

there are only 5 players in Korea that have made to GSL top 16 every season in 2013: Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Soo, Parting. Pretty impressive list, isn't it? He is still a top toss even in his down year.


Technically, PartinG made it to the Ro8 in all GSLs this year. (lost in Ro16 in OSL)
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 25 2013 03:37 GMT
#84
On November 25 2013 10:28 cpower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 23:43 Scarecrow wrote:
On November 24 2013 23:18 DiMano wrote:
On November 24 2013 23:16 wrier wrote:
if he wins this then follows it up next week with a strong performance at Dreamhack, I will say he is one of the best. I still think Dear is the best Protoss.

I like how people forget about other players for example PartinG did not attend any big event but owned WCG and every online qualifiers he attented.

Parting failed to top 5 in the most recent GSL so wasn't at the season 3 finals, both tourneys won by Dear. He also didn't have the points to qualify for blizzcon so wasn't there either. There really isn't an argument for Parting as the best protoss atm. It's Dear and if not him it's sOs.

there are only 5 players in Korea that have made to GSL top 16 every season in 2013: Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Soo, Parting. Pretty impressive list, isn't it? He is still a top toss even in his down year.


I don't think anyone is saying parting isn't a top toss. Just wouldn't say the best, I agree with the statement. I personally think Dear is the best protoss still. To me he is just a scarier player to me then sos. But maybe sos can change that around, for now though sos is obviously a really good protoss, I just find dear better still.
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Profile Joined November 2011
Jamaica921 Posts
November 25 2013 05:01 GMT
#85
On November 24 2013 20:00 ZAiNs wrote:
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On November 24 2013 16:14 Zenbrez wrote:
Gimme Hotbiiiiid

He's doing Dota interviews at MLG .


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mihajovics
Profile Joined April 2011
179 Posts
November 25 2013 09:48 GMT
#86
just a reminder, the negation of a disjunction is a conjuction of negations, so just because he didn't win, doesn't mean he isn't the best..
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 25 2013 14:21 GMT
#87
On November 25 2013 12:37 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 10:28 cpower wrote:
On November 24 2013 23:43 Scarecrow wrote:
On November 24 2013 23:18 DiMano wrote:
On November 24 2013 23:16 wrier wrote:
if he wins this then follows it up next week with a strong performance at Dreamhack, I will say he is one of the best. I still think Dear is the best Protoss.

I like how people forget about other players for example PartinG did not attend any big event but owned WCG and every online qualifiers he attented.

Parting failed to top 5 in the most recent GSL so wasn't at the season 3 finals, both tourneys won by Dear. He also didn't have the points to qualify for blizzcon so wasn't there either. There really isn't an argument for Parting as the best protoss atm. It's Dear and if not him it's sOs.

there are only 5 players in Korea that have made to GSL top 16 every season in 2013: Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Soo, Parting. Pretty impressive list, isn't it? He is still a top toss even in his down year.


I don't think anyone is saying parting isn't a top toss. Just wouldn't say the best, I agree with the statement. I personally think Dear is the best protoss still. To me he is just a scarier player to me then sos. But maybe sos can change that around, for now though sos is obviously a really good protoss, I just find dear better still.

Yeah I want to give the edge to Dear, too, but it's all pretty close at the top. No clear #1 overall best. Just comes down to who is on their game that day
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Moonsalt
Profile Joined May 2011
267 Posts
November 25 2013 14:23 GMT
#88
Dear, sOs arguably the best protosses in the world atm.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
November 25 2013 15:12 GMT
#89
On November 25 2013 23:23 Moonsalt wrote:
Dear, sOs arguably the best protosses in the world atm.

Dear, sOs and PartinG: The three best protosses in the world atm.
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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
November 25 2013 15:15 GMT
#90
I'd put sOs and Dear about neck and neck on top with PartinG a half step behind yet.
cpower
Profile Joined October 2013
228 Posts
November 25 2013 15:54 GMT
#91
On November 25 2013 12:37 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 10:28 cpower wrote:
On November 24 2013 23:43 Scarecrow wrote:
On November 24 2013 23:18 DiMano wrote:
On November 24 2013 23:16 wrier wrote:
if he wins this then follows it up next week with a strong performance at Dreamhack, I will say he is one of the best. I still think Dear is the best Protoss.

I like how people forget about other players for example PartinG did not attend any big event but owned WCG and every online qualifiers he attented.

Parting failed to top 5 in the most recent GSL so wasn't at the season 3 finals, both tourneys won by Dear. He also didn't have the points to qualify for blizzcon so wasn't there either. There really isn't an argument for Parting as the best protoss atm. It's Dear and if not him it's sOs.

there are only 5 players in Korea that have made to GSL top 16 every season in 2013: Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Soo, Parting. Pretty impressive list, isn't it? He is still a top toss even in his down year.


I don't think anyone is saying parting isn't a top toss. Just wouldn't say the best, I agree with the statement. I personally think Dear is the best protoss still. To me he is just a scarier player to me then sos. But maybe sos can change that around, for now though sos is obviously a really good protoss, I just find dear better still.

I would give the edge to Dear too. I do think Parting is great at Bo3 which his aggressive style fits him the best. In a longer series, if one of his risky builds failed miserably, he tends to lose the composure a lot. We will see how he can improve on that this year.
ThisWillBEz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States120 Posts
November 25 2013 16:15 GMT
#92
Wax, you called him startale parting. I made that same mistake when I met him yesterday
CutTheEnemy
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada373 Posts
November 25 2013 18:22 GMT
#93
sOs is an interesting guy. Are there any other interviews with him? Even the way he speaks and sits is interesting.
Can we help spread the word and create pressure to get Rob Pardo to replace Browder as head of Sc2? Pardo led the team for broodwar, frozen throne, and wow/BC. We need to make this a thing before LotV development starts. Think about it.
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
November 25 2013 18:56 GMT
#94
Haha, thanks a lot.. love that PartinG interview. Makes me wish I knew another language.. would be awesome to be able to communicate with another culture so fluently. Seems like Korean would be a difficult language to master, though.
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AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 01:32:48
November 27 2013 01:30 GMT
#95
On November 26 2013 03:56 CCa1ss1e wrote:
Haha, thanks a lot.. love that PartinG interview. Makes me wish I knew another language.. would be awesome to be able to communicate with another culture so fluently. Seems like Korean would be a difficult language to master, though.


Surprisingly - Korean (being a language isolate) is a relatively easy language to learn...one year and a half of study and working in Seoul and you will be able to speak and listen quite well...their alphabet is nice too...writing is harder than reading as the order of how each letter constructed is important when writing...

Anyway it goes like this this in terms of learning asiatic languages: hardest to easiest (for native Indo European speakers).

Mongol
Cantonese
Mandarin
Thai
Vietnamese
Indonesian
Japanese
Korean


According to Prof. John Mcwhorter (One of the world's leading linguists).
Neptooon
Profile Joined November 2013
Estonia7 Posts
November 27 2013 16:17 GMT
#96
On November 25 2013 18:48 mihajovics wrote:
just a reminder, the negation of a disjunction is a conjuction of negations, so just because he didn't win, doesn't mean he isn't the best..


The sentence "If I win Red Bull, I will be the best" is not a disjunction, it's an implication A→B, where A: sOs is the Red Bull champion and B: sOs is the best player in the world.

Furthermore we're not negating the entire sentence, since the result of Red Bull doesn't mean that the implication is false, but that A is false. The implication only tells us that if A is true then so is B. B can be true even if A is false.

So yes, he can still be the best player in the world.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
December 01 2013 03:48 GMT
#97
So sOs actually copied a NaNiwa strat, interesting. Thanks for the interviews!

Scarlett by the way looks absolutely stunning on that Red Bull backwall.
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