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On November 24 2013 19:57 saltis wrote:
Its hard to tell the eligibility if sOs could be the best. As long as one race is not equally balanced with other races, it requires less skill to win. If we are looking for win ratio rather than skill requirement than Yes - sOs perhaps the best right now.
you're implying that protoss is the ezamove race?
I thought we got over that argument already
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Canada16217 Posts
On November 24 2013 19:57 saltis wrote:
Its hard to tell the eligibility if sOs could be the best. As long as one race is not equally balanced with other races, it requires less skill to win. If we are looking for win ratio rather than skill requirement than Yes - sOs perhaps the best right now.
lol
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On November 24 2013 20:01 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 19:57 saltis wrote:
Its hard to tell the eligibility if sOs could be the best. As long as one race is not equally balanced with other races, it requires less skill to win. If we are looking for win ratio rather than skill requirement than Yes - sOs perhaps the best right now. you're implying that protoss is the ezamove race? I thought we got over that argument already
If only one Terran gets into quarter-final and only one Zerg gets into semi-final , than its obvious - something wrong with the balance.
If there are 2x more Toss players in global GM than Terran, its obvious its something wrong with the balance (btw, im not bias, im zerg player)
If Terran gosu player knows from the beginning (not even talking about ladder players) about all-in blinkers+msc and still cannot defend on the opposite side of the map - its something wrong with the balance. To counter blinkers all-in require static defences which is not a professional play. Static defences do not contribute neither for army , neither for economy and it doesn't allow for counter attack. And if for some dumbness Terran decides to counter Toss, he will get 0 apm 940 dmg from Nexus overcharge.
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On November 24 2013 20:22 saltis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 20:01 gobbledydook wrote:On November 24 2013 19:57 saltis wrote:
Its hard to tell the eligibility if sOs could be the best. As long as one race is not equally balanced with other races, it requires less skill to win. If we are looking for win ratio rather than skill requirement than Yes - sOs perhaps the best right now. you're implying that protoss is the ezamove race? I thought we got over that argument already If only one Terran gets into quarter-final and only one Zerg gets into semi-final , than its obvious - something wrong with the balance. If there are 2x more Toss players in global GM than Terran, its obvious its something wrong with the balance (btw, im not bias, im zerg player) If Terran gosu player knows from the beginning (not even talking about ladder players) about all-in blinkers+msc and still cannot defend on the opposite side of the map - its something wrong with the balance. To counter blinkers all-in require static defences which is not a professional play. Static defences do not contribute neither for army , neither for economy and it doesn't allow for counter attack.
lol'd. Seriously lol'd. I will just tell that you cannot know about blink all-in from beginning of game :D
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Lol sOs is already the best in the world!!
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On November 24 2013 19:57 saltis wrote:
Its hard to tell the eligibility if sOs could be the best. As long as one race is not equally balanced with other races, it requires less skill to win. If we are looking for win ratio rather than skill requirement than Yes - sOs perhaps the best right now.
sOs actually wins his games with good strategies, that innvolve a lot of harrassment, and great decision making (and more often than not, flawless execution of said strategies. He's far from being and "a-move" Protoss. Even I as Terran (which is often said to be the super mega skill0r race) have to admit that sOs simply is better than most players.
If Jaedong had won that final series against sOs, would Zerg be overpowered?
Edit: Oh and regarding "there are two times as many global GM Protosses as Terrans"... 8 out of the 16 top WCS players were Terran.
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On November 24 2013 16:44 Blargh wrote:
I'll be honest here... Red Bull Battle Grounds is not exactly a top-tier tournament in terms of player lineup... Plus, it's only 8 players. The matches at Blizzcon were not impressive enough for me to consider the winner "best player in the world", but they are at least up there.
I think one could make a really good argument that Mvp was the best player in the world for quite some time in 2011, but sOs right now? Ehhhhh....
wow sOs has to get 200 titles while some players just need to place high in a few foreign tourney or dominate teamleague to be considered the best. Guess thats fair...
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On November 24 2013 20:26 SpaceCow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 19:57 saltis wrote:
Its hard to tell the eligibility if sOs could be the best. As long as one race is not equally balanced with other races, it requires less skill to win. If we are looking for win ratio rather than skill requirement than Yes - sOs perhaps the best right now. sOs actually wins his games with good strategies, that innvolve a lot of harrassment, and great decision making (and more often than not, flawless execution of said strategies. He's far from being and "a-move" Protoss. Even I as Terran (which is often said to be the super mega skill0r race) have to admit that sOs simply is better than most players. If Jaedong had won that final series against sOs, would Zerg be overpowered? Edit: Oh and regarding "there are two times as many global GM Protosses as Terrans"... 8 out of the 16 top WCS players were Terran.
I do not say Toss players are bad players. What i can blatantly state that Blizzard trying to cover toss race design flaw by buffing and artificially helping to win tourneys RATHER of making Toss more flexible - more micro/macro capability race to play. Currently Toss player have no mechanics to play at the same level micro/macro games as other races , therefore traditionally they were doomed not to win tourneys at the highest level.
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Man, people are throwing around superlatives like there's no tomorrow. Why can't we just agree that sOs is a sick player and leave it at that until he really dominates for like the next months?
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On November 24 2013 20:32 saltis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 20:26 SpaceCow wrote:On November 24 2013 19:57 saltis wrote:
Its hard to tell the eligibility if sOs could be the best. As long as one race is not equally balanced with other races, it requires less skill to win. If we are looking for win ratio rather than skill requirement than Yes - sOs perhaps the best right now. sOs actually wins his games with good strategies, that innvolve a lot of harrassment, and great decision making (and more often than not, flawless execution of said strategies. He's far from being and "a-move" Protoss. Even I as Terran (which is often said to be the super mega skill0r race) have to admit that sOs simply is better than most players. If Jaedong had won that final series against sOs, would Zerg be overpowered? Edit: Oh and regarding "there are two times as many global GM Protosses as Terrans"... 8 out of the 16 top WCS players were Terran. Currently Toss player have no mechanics to play at the same level micro/macro games as other races , therefore traditionally they were doomed not to win tourneys at the highest level
Words like `therefore`are usually reserved for arguments based on logic/reasoning. I guess you painted over the memo with your broad brush.
On November 24 2013 20:22 saltis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 20:01 gobbledydook wrote:On November 24 2013 19:57 saltis wrote:
Its hard to tell the eligibility if sOs could be the best. As long as one race is not equally balanced with other races, it requires less skill to win. If we are looking for win ratio rather than skill requirement than Yes - sOs perhaps the best right now. you're implying that protoss is the ezamove race? I thought we got over that argument already To counter blinkers all-in require static defences which is not a professional play.
lol
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We'll see if he's the best in retrospect after a metagame + balance cycle. Hard to say anything now that Protoss just wins games for no reason. Might just be a case of Sniper.
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He's been looking pretty strong at this tournament too. Definitely the favorite to win
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Parting interview: Battle of the Microphone 
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BM KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG !!! Let's go PartinG, Win this tournament and prove once again you're one of the best Protoss players in the world ! =D
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How long can it be. Or he just another Innovation
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Dafuq, send Wax to the MLG's. SC needs hotbid.
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Wongjin wants more Redbull sponsorship. WCS doesn't crown the best of the world but Red bull battleground does !
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I've missed you PartinG, my muse, my flame...
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On November 24 2013 16:27 Noam wrote:
Silly sOs, you were already the best in the world when you won WCS.
For real, I don't understand why people are so concerned about the topic... He already won the tournament that matters...
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