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mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
November 19 2013 12:53 GMT
#121
On November 19 2013 21:42 Koshi wrote:
Taeja strange guy. 0o
Can't blame the guy for not wanting to go outside though, there is nothing special to see in the Netherlands. Except after visiting a "Coffee Shop". Then you special things everywhere.




oh come on, Im pretty sure there are some interesting things you can see in holland. I think it's kinda waste of opportunity :3. But i guess it's Taeja's decision and I can respect that.
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Saraf
Profile Joined April 2011
United States160 Posts
November 19 2013 13:10 GMT
#122
On November 19 2013 21:53 mongmong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 21:42 Koshi wrote:
Taeja strange guy. 0o
Can't blame the guy for not wanting to go outside though, there is nothing special to see in the Netherlands. Except after visiting a "Coffee Shop". Then you special things everywhere.




oh come on, Im pretty sure there are some interesting things you can see in holland. I think it's kinda waste of opportunity :3. But i guess it's Taeja's decision and I can respect that.


Utrecht actually, if I recall rightly from Hot_Bid's blog. Still, I'd love to be able to visit Europe someday, and it's a shame he doesn't plan to go exploring.

Good luck Taeja, congratulations! I hope you can find something you like to eat over there!
"Alas, poor MKP. I knew him, Zenio."
jdsowa
Profile Joined March 2011
405 Posts
November 19 2013 13:11 GMT
#123
I doubt the game is "fun" for any serious progamer, regardless of what they say. Nothing you do for 10+ hours a day is "fun". Fun implies a contrast to the ordinary daily grind.

What's gotta be depressing for a player is the shrinking fan and player enthusiasm. A couple years ago there was so much promise. Now reality has hit and the game is just in a slow decline. Ironically, it was Korean participation in events like MLG that killed off the NA scene and a lot of American fan/sponsor interest. The Koreans reaped the short term benefits in prize money, but the people that propped up the sport as a whole eventually walked away and now everyone's screwed.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
November 19 2013 13:13 GMT
#124
On November 19 2013 11:25 DaftFunk wrote:
taeja just dont give a fuck.

hes surprisingly humble and able to acknowledge his weaknesses. some guys are just flashes in the pan and talk about how good they are etc etc.

To be entirely honest, I felt exactly the contrary. It's almost like the "and I wasn't even in my final form".
justaviewer
Profile Joined September 2013
6 Posts
November 19 2013 13:19 GMT
#125
Usually I never post but this thread is amazing.

How come some people are saying that TaeJa is a boring guy? He even said in interview, "all I was dreaming of is to get some sleep". Do you understand what it means? He was exausted after fly and 3-day marathon. How could he smile if he just wanted to go to bed?

This is amazing how some people don't get it.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
November 19 2013 13:27 GMT
#126
Let's see how much exploring you guys do when you travel looks like Korea-US-Korea-US-Netherlands-Germany-Netherlands-Sweden-Korea in a span of six weeks while trying to keep your play up to par because you're playing the biggest tournaments against the best in the world

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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 19 2013 13:36 GMT
#127
On November 19 2013 22:27 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Let's see how much exploring you guys do when you travel looks like Korea-US-Korea-US-Netherlands-Germany-Netherlands-Sweden-Korea in a span of six weeks while trying to keep your play up to par because you're playing the biggest tournaments against the best in the world


Well, he can just browse through all the sights on the internet and later on say to his friends "Oh, xyz? Yes I know that, I've been to the netherlands".
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
November 19 2013 13:38 GMT
#128
Really depressing interview. There we have the best player on a foreign team, winning assloads of tournaments and still he seems so miserable. He lives in a beautiful, strange country and just keeps practising. He has wrist problems and keeps practising. He thinks of quitting and keeps practising...
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
November 19 2013 14:02 GMT
#129
thanks for this.. not the interview I expected though.. hope to see TaeJa for a long time! (damn wrist injuries).
~ The Ultimate Weapon
Pirfiktshon
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1072 Posts
November 19 2013 14:14 GMT
#130
Actually looking into further about this interview and his answers. He loves the game so much he just keeps wanting to play. That's a good thing I don't think we will see Taeja quit anytime soon. Yea, Taeja Needs to take a Break for like 2 Weeks and Nazgul you should get him the Wrist Guard things Naniwa has so his Golden Wrists are saved! hahaha
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
November 19 2013 14:26 GMT
#131
On November 19 2013 15:40 LingBlingBling wrote:
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On November 19 2013 11:54 MysterySC wrote:
Sorry but he's just to boring to bad american teams didn't sign the fun koreans


Really get tired of Americans and Europeans complaining about Koreans not jumping up and down every time they win something like it's American Idol.

They are not monkeys their to entertain you. This is their job, their life line of income on the line. Korean culture is far more respectable in that regard. Taeja is a well mannered fellow and his mind is on the important things in life.

He also said he was dead tired. I seen Taeja show tons of emotion when he played in Korea in the GSL where he feels at home.

I get so upset when I see American/European viewers disrespect Koreans because they are not entertaining them, instead of commenting on their skill.

Hope the best for Taeja, must be hard living in a huge environment change and food change. I don't blame him for not wanting to go out.



Actually their job is to entertain us. E-sport is entertaiment bisness just like professional football, movies, tv shows.... but question is how they entertain us? With giving great matches? Yeah thats also making entertaiment!

Where money comes? When people are entertaimed they watch it. Companies "buy" exposure to make their products sell better. Sponsoring tournament (asus rog), team (eg), player (twitch)...Esport is same as money.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
November 19 2013 14:33 GMT
#132
On November 19 2013 23:26 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 15:40 LingBlingBling wrote:
On November 19 2013 11:54 MysterySC wrote:
Sorry but he's just to boring to bad american teams didn't sign the fun koreans


Really get tired of Americans and Europeans complaining about Koreans not jumping up and down every time they win something like it's American Idol.

They are not monkeys their to entertain you. This is their job, their life line of income on the line. Korean culture is far more respectable in that regard. Taeja is a well mannered fellow and his mind is on the important things in life.

He also said he was dead tired. I seen Taeja show tons of emotion when he played in Korea in the GSL where he feels at home.

I get so upset when I see American/European viewers disrespect Koreans because they are not entertaining them, instead of commenting on their skill.

Hope the best for Taeja, must be hard living in a huge environment change and food change. I don't blame him for not wanting to go out.



Actually their job is to entertain us. E-sport is entertaiment bisness just like professional football, movies, tv shows.... but question is how they entertain us? With giving great matches? Yeah thats also making entertaiment!

Where money comes? When people are entertaimed they watch it. Companies "buy" exposure to make their products sell better. Sponsoring tournament (asus rog), team (eg), player (twitch)...Esport is same as money.

This really. It's hard to blame a great player for not being an entertainer, his awesome skill is already entertaining in itself, but this is still a huge plus.
bsdaemon
Profile Joined July 2012
618 Posts
November 19 2013 15:27 GMT
#133
I'm not sure what to think about Taeja's responses. I always see him as a shy, almost-awkward type of person which also reflects on his interviews. I do hope he is having fun amidst all his winnings and travels. What he is doing is something awesome afterall.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
November 19 2013 15:42 GMT
#134
On November 20 2013 00:27 bsdaemon wrote:
I'm not sure what to think about Taeja's responses. I always see him as a shy, almost-awkward type of person which also reflects on his interviews. I do hope he is having fun amidst all his winnings and travels. What he is doing is something awesome afterall.

I'd be surprised if he enjoys himself. He travels all over the world but for some reason prefers to spend his time sitting inside all the time. He's staying in the Netherlands, for christ's sake. Barely a stone throw from Amsterdam, Brussels, Cologne, Antwerp, Bruges, etc. So much to visit. I get he needs to practice to maintain his current level, but surely he has time to travel around a bit? He's living a life most people can only dream living.
Pirfiktshon
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1072 Posts
November 19 2013 15:48 GMT
#135
On November 19 2013 23:26 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 15:40 LingBlingBling wrote:
On November 19 2013 11:54 MysterySC wrote:
Sorry but he's just to boring to bad american teams didn't sign the fun koreans


Really get tired of Americans and Europeans complaining about Koreans not jumping up and down every time they win something like it's American Idol.

They are not monkeys their to entertain you. This is their job, their life line of income on the line. Korean culture is far more respectable in that regard. Taeja is a well mannered fellow and his mind is on the important things in life.

He also said he was dead tired. I seen Taeja show tons of emotion when he played in Korea in the GSL where he feels at home.

I get so upset when I see American/European viewers disrespect Koreans because they are not entertaining them, instead of commenting on their skill.

Hope the best for Taeja, must be hard living in a huge environment change and food change. I don't blame him for not wanting to go out.



Actually their job is to entertain us. E-sport is entertaiment bisness just like professional football, movies, tv shows.... but question is how they entertain us? With giving great matches? Yeah thats also making entertaiment!

Where money comes? When people are entertaimed they watch it. Companies "buy" exposure to make their products sell better. Sponsoring tournament (asus rog), team (eg), player (twitch)...Esport is same as money.


Its to entertain us its true but they aren't Chimps in Flashy clown outfits. They are respectable humble and nice people that deserve our utmost respect as a person and a extremely talented professional....
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 19 2013 15:53 GMT
#136
On November 20 2013 00:42 maartendq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 00:27 bsdaemon wrote:
I'm not sure what to think about Taeja's responses. I always see him as a shy, almost-awkward type of person which also reflects on his interviews. I do hope he is having fun amidst all his winnings and travels. What he is doing is something awesome afterall.

I'd be surprised if he enjoys himself. He travels all over the world but for some reason prefers to spend his time sitting inside all the time. He's staying in the Netherlands, for christ's sake. Barely a stone throw from Amsterdam, Brussels, Cologne, Antwerp, Bruges, etc. So much to visit. I get he needs to practice to maintain his current level, but surely he has time to travel around a bit? He's living a life most people can only dream living.

On November 19 2013 22:27 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Let's see how much exploring you guys do when you travel looks like Korea-US-Korea-US-Netherlands-Germany-Netherlands-Sweden-Korea in a span of six weeks while trying to keep your play up to par because you're playing the biggest tournaments against the best in the world



People should just quote Nazgul until people realise just how tough all that travel is. Its not just any jet lag, it's jet lag upon jet lag upon stress upon high expectations and tons of practise. That's exhausting for anyone and I doubt many would have the energy to explore shit were they in Taeja's position.
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Pirfiktshon
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1072 Posts
November 19 2013 15:54 GMT
#137
yea that on top of winning the whole tournament LOLOLOLOL He's a Boss I would not be able to perform in that situation but I guess thats why he is who he is
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
November 19 2013 15:55 GMT
#138
On November 20 2013 00:48 Pirfiktshon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 23:26 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On November 19 2013 15:40 LingBlingBling wrote:
On November 19 2013 11:54 MysterySC wrote:
Sorry but he's just to boring to bad american teams didn't sign the fun koreans


Really get tired of Americans and Europeans complaining about Koreans not jumping up and down every time they win something like it's American Idol.

They are not monkeys their to entertain you. This is their job, their life line of income on the line. Korean culture is far more respectable in that regard. Taeja is a well mannered fellow and his mind is on the important things in life.

He also said he was dead tired. I seen Taeja show tons of emotion when he played in Korea in the GSL where he feels at home.

I get so upset when I see American/European viewers disrespect Koreans because they are not entertaining them, instead of commenting on their skill.

Hope the best for Taeja, must be hard living in a huge environment change and food change. I don't blame him for not wanting to go out.



Actually their job is to entertain us. E-sport is entertaiment bisness just like professional football, movies, tv shows.... but question is how they entertain us? With giving great matches? Yeah thats also making entertaiment!

Where money comes? When people are entertaimed they watch it. Companies "buy" exposure to make their products sell better. Sponsoring tournament (asus rog), team (eg), player (twitch)...Esport is same as money.


Its to entertain us its true but they aren't Chimps in Flashy clown outfits. They are respectable humble and nice people that deserve our utmost respect as a person and a extremely talented professional....


That's a great way to put. I think it's such a weird criticism too, in most popular sports people always applaud the humble quiet guys and look down on those who make a show about themselves.
VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-19 16:06:47
November 19 2013 16:06 GMT
#139
On November 20 2013 00:55 blackone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 00:48 Pirfiktshon wrote:
On November 19 2013 23:26 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On November 19 2013 15:40 LingBlingBling wrote:
On November 19 2013 11:54 MysterySC wrote:
Sorry but he's just to boring to bad american teams didn't sign the fun koreans


Really get tired of Americans and Europeans complaining about Koreans not jumping up and down every time they win something like it's American Idol.

They are not monkeys their to entertain you. This is their job, their life line of income on the line. Korean culture is far more respectable in that regard. Taeja is a well mannered fellow and his mind is on the important things in life.

He also said he was dead tired. I seen Taeja show tons of emotion when he played in Korea in the GSL where he feels at home.

I get so upset when I see American/European viewers disrespect Koreans because they are not entertaining them, instead of commenting on their skill.

Hope the best for Taeja, must be hard living in a huge environment change and food change. I don't blame him for not wanting to go out.



Actually their job is to entertain us. E-sport is entertaiment bisness just like professional football, movies, tv shows.... but question is how they entertain us? With giving great matches? Yeah thats also making entertaiment!

Where money comes? When people are entertaimed they watch it. Companies "buy" exposure to make their products sell better. Sponsoring tournament (asus rog), team (eg), player (twitch)...Esport is same as money.


Its to entertain us its true but they aren't Chimps in Flashy clown outfits. They are respectable humble and nice people that deserve our utmost respect as a person and a extremely talented professional....


That's a great way to put. I think it's such a weird criticism too, in most popular sports people always applaud the humble quiet guys and look down on those who make a show about themselves.


Yeah, that's the irony actually.. The more "energetic" sport you're doing in the more people will cheer for you the more "quiet" or at least humble you are.. And vice-versa, though there are not many "quiet" real sports that require people world-wide to know the personality of those who do..
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
November 19 2013 16:07 GMT
#140
It always blow my mind how unresourceful all those progamers seem to be. How hard is it to learn how to cook basic meals in order to have a balanced diet ?
Do they have such a tight schedule that they don't even have time to cook ?
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