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The Man in the Machine: Acer.INnoVation - Road to Blizzcon…

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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 03 2013 11:10 GMT
#101
On November 03 2013 19:55 habeck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 19:28 Weavel wrote:
On November 03 2013 19:16 nimdil wrote:
On November 03 2013 14:32 lichter wrote:
Hellbat TvT was basically PvP before all the 4gate nerfs

No. Nobody in the era of 4 gate pvp had over 70 percent winrate
Didn't elfi had that? Oz was pretty good for a while too.


MC?


Yeah I think MC had like upwards of 75-80% PvP back in early 2011 or so. Then Alicia knocked him out of the Super Tournament >_>
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urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 11:26:07
November 03 2013 11:25 GMT
#102
If Innovation's TvP is that good then he can beat Dear.
If Innovation's TvT is that bad then he will be stopped by Maru before it comes to that.
jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
November 03 2013 11:56 GMT
#103
Good read! Thanks.
stickyhands
Profile Joined May 2011
187 Posts
November 03 2013 12:30 GMT
#104
If inno has improved his TvT, then...
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Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
November 03 2013 12:32 GMT
#105
For some reason I don't think Innovation can win Blizzcon, he's shown too many chinks in his armor along the way. Season 1 I would've backed him to win anything but now hmmm... I doubt he's anywhere near favourite status but should still stand a good chance. Tbh I feel like at least 10 players stand a good chance of winning, Blizzcon is gonna be one hell of a tournament.
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
November 03 2013 12:37 GMT
#106
These pre-Blizzcon hype articles are so damn good. TL at its best. Can't wait for the one on Naniwa
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jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 12:45:11
November 03 2013 12:39 GMT
#107
its almost impossible to predict any winners. some cases like mvp/alive/bomber.... who hasnt showed any results in last 2 months and almost dropping out of their premiers.... at s3 finals i realy thought that soulkey would wipe the floor with dear, like he did with trap and with rain in gsl. but boy... was i wrong.
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Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
November 03 2013 14:00 GMT
#108
On November 03 2013 14:32 lichter wrote:
Hellbat TvT was basically PvP before all the 4gate nerfs


Nah PvP was never about multitasking. Hellbat TvT was 100% multitasking. But it still sucked.
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BoggieMan
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
520 Posts
November 03 2013 14:19 GMT
#109
On November 03 2013 23:00 Aunvilgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 14:32 lichter wrote:
Hellbat TvT was basically PvP before all the 4gate nerfs


Nah PvP was never about multitasking. Hellbat TvT was 100% multitasking. But it still sucked.


His point was just that everyone used the same build, and it was a very aggressive matchup that rarely lasted beyond 15 minutes.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44300 Posts
November 03 2013 14:20 GMT
#110
On November 03 2013 23:19 BoggieMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 23:00 Aunvilgod wrote:
On November 03 2013 14:32 lichter wrote:
Hellbat TvT was basically PvP before all the 4gate nerfs


Nah PvP was never about multitasking. Hellbat TvT was 100% multitasking. But it still sucked.


His point was just that everyone used the same build, and it was a very aggressive matchup that rarely lasted beyond 15 minutes.

like zvz before spore buff ?
this is a quote
ftA
Profile Joined November 2013
United States2 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 14:28:41
November 03 2013 14:26 GMT
#111
The most impressive part about his rise in non-TvT win% is that it's an equally good sample size. It sucks to see that a player so good was hit so heavily by the nerfing of one unit. I'm sure it comes down to a little more than that. But it just goes to show that if you rely too heavily on one thing in this game -- "His fall came with the hellbat nerf—a crippling blow to the hellbat-drop tactics that were the backbone of his TvT play." -- you are going to experience A LOT of variance.
ftA
Profile Joined November 2013
United States2 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 14:30:18
November 03 2013 14:30 GMT
#112
Great write-up! It might just be me, but I think there are spaces missing after italicized words here.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3815 Posts
November 03 2013 17:15 GMT
#113
Hopefully, INnoVation has prepared with MMA. The TvT of MMA can rub off on him, and he can helps MMA in the other MU's. The Terran duo of Acer is quite strong to say the least.
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Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3710 Posts
November 03 2013 17:19 GMT
#114
On November 03 2013 23:00 Aunvilgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 14:32 lichter wrote:
Hellbat TvT was basically PvP before all the 4gate nerfs


Nah PvP was never about multitasking. Hellbat TvT was 100% multitasking. But it still sucked.


Define multitasking. Personally from playing all the races I felt like dealing with counter zealot warp ins in your main while executing your 4gate in his main was about equally "hard" from "microing" hellbat drops while defending against them.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 03 2013 17:24 GMT
#115
There's still 13 more of these in the next 120 hours.
I bet the next one will be about naniwa
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kisoso
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria105 Posts
November 03 2013 17:25 GMT
#116
Best case scenario - InnoVation doesn't hit any terran on the way to the final with Soulkey. Any other case = bad.
SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1162 Posts
November 03 2013 20:27 GMT
#117
I gotta tell ya, it was fun watching Innovation lose his mythical aura. the series against Mvp and months of hellbat abuse was kinda disgusting. but that doesn't matter now. we need a man like Innovation to slay the toss dragons.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 04 2013 01:13 GMT
#118
Dream finals is Innovation Soulkey finals to be honest.

That would be the best ending to the year, even better then MVP winning versus anyone.
Powerfoe
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada167 Posts
November 04 2013 06:19 GMT
#119
On November 04 2013 02:24 The_Templar wrote:
There's still 13 more of these in the next 120 hours.
I bet the next one will be about naniwa


TL writers are just gonna give up LOL. This is too much. Just watch.
NOW YOU SEE?
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
November 04 2013 07:04 GMT
#120
Loving these articles. Nicely done!
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