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Na`Vi.FXOpen disbands - Page 3

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dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
November 02 2013 09:41 GMT
#41
On November 02 2013 17:06 chaos021 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 06:45 FXOBoSs wrote:
I hate reading threads like this. Mostly because of the insane speculation that goes on. For as long as ESFXTV.com exists they are still in e-sports but in a different way. I think the ultimate reason why FXOpen stopped sponsorship is because the players either 1) refused to stream or 2) couldn't draw viewers to esfxtv.com which in my opinion is a silly platform based on a silly idea.

If viewers had followed the twitter accounts or whatever and clicked on the esfxtv stream links and produced good numbers they would have stayed in the sponsorships or trimmed teams to the ones who drew traffic.

I think unstable touched on this in his leaving video. But there isn't really much else to say about it.


If this is the case, then a lot of teams in general do a spectacularly crappy job of advertising, getting the word or whatever you want to call it. I didn't know anyone on any FXO teams had a twitter that they cared about. EG players, most notably iNcontroL, asks viewers to do things for them, and guess what.... they do it. People will do things to keep teams and/or players going, but they don't read minds. Tons of sheeple to herd out there!


have to agree with this. it's clear that if your only marketing of the team consists of your players streaming their ladder practice on twitch, you're going to fail.
PGtour admin
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
November 02 2013 11:37 GMT
#42
On November 02 2013 17:06 chaos021 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 06:45 FXOBoSs wrote:
I hate reading threads like this. Mostly because of the insane speculation that goes on. For as long as ESFXTV.com exists they are still in e-sports but in a different way. I think the ultimate reason why FXOpen stopped sponsorship is because the players either 1) refused to stream or 2) couldn't draw viewers to esfxtv.com which in my opinion is a silly platform based on a silly idea.

If viewers had followed the twitter accounts or whatever and clicked on the esfxtv stream links and produced good numbers they would have stayed in the sponsorships or trimmed teams to the ones who drew traffic.

I think unstable touched on this in his leaving video. But there isn't really much else to say about it.


If this is the case, then a lot of teams in general do a spectacularly crappy job of advertising, getting the word or whatever you want to call it. I didn't know anyone on any FXO teams had a twitter that they cared about. EG players, most notably iNcontroL, asks viewers to do things for them, and guess what.... they do it. People will do things to keep teams and/or players going, but they don't read minds. Tons of sheeple to herd out there!


To be fair, they are russian/ukrainian, you are not. They have their own SC2 scene, sc2tv.ru and so on.
If they are active in their scene, publishing news, streaming, we won't hear about that on TL.
Spectralx
Profile Joined November 2010
United States198 Posts
November 02 2013 15:11 GMT
#43
Gl guys best wishes!
Spectral - Paralyzed Quadriplegic Gamer
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
November 03 2013 12:08 GMT
#44
that's sad. really looking forward to this blog. good luck to everyone !
twitter@RickyMarou
HamsterOfBoo
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation1 Post
November 03 2013 12:44 GMT
#45
I'M so sad. My loved LoWeLy Has inactive ╦_╦
Val_
Profile Joined May 2010
Ukraine156 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 13:17:44
November 03 2013 12:52 GMT
#46
On November 02 2013 04:58 HighArT wrote:
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On November 01 2013 23:46 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
What was NaVi's part of this team? FXO was sponsoring, what NaVi was doing?


I wonder that too


nothing

just a tag (fanbase)
because na'vi.cs are almost legendary in Ukraine and na'vi dota also
AKA [7x]Val / GML Terran EU
Vo-one
Profile Joined June 2003
Ukraine456 Posts
November 03 2013 15:16 GMT
#47
I've asked Lowely about this and he told me that this is not his final desicion.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 03 2013 15:44 GMT
#48
On November 02 2013 18:41 dreamseller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 17:06 chaos021 wrote:
On November 02 2013 06:45 FXOBoSs wrote:
I hate reading threads like this. Mostly because of the insane speculation that goes on. For as long as ESFXTV.com exists they are still in e-sports but in a different way. I think the ultimate reason why FXOpen stopped sponsorship is because the players either 1) refused to stream or 2) couldn't draw viewers to esfxtv.com which in my opinion is a silly platform based on a silly idea.

If viewers had followed the twitter accounts or whatever and clicked on the esfxtv stream links and produced good numbers they would have stayed in the sponsorships or trimmed teams to the ones who drew traffic.

I think unstable touched on this in his leaving video. But there isn't really much else to say about it.


If this is the case, then a lot of teams in general do a spectacularly crappy job of advertising, getting the word or whatever you want to call it. I didn't know anyone on any FXO teams had a twitter that they cared about. EG players, most notably iNcontroL, asks viewers to do things for them, and guess what.... they do it. People will do things to keep teams and/or players going, but they don't read minds. Tons of sheeple to herd out there!


have to agree with this. it's clear that if your only marketing of the team consists of your players streaming their ladder practice on twitch, you're going to fail.


They weren't even doing that to begin with like Josh said. I'm one of the guys vehemently against using streaming as your platform as well because it isn't good practice. Still there are a lot of things you can be doing when it comes to generating content, which a lot of teams fail to recognize.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
November 03 2013 15:51 GMT
#49
On November 02 2013 05:37 marcesr wrote:
Another blow for the all aspiring, low and mid tier foreign progamers. SC2 at the very top might be doing fine but below that level we have huge problems.

To be honest, there are way too many subpar people who want to earn money playing this game. There's no reason anyone should earn money if they're not part of one of the top-tier teams. Starcraft is first and foremost a video game, not a profession.
AceOfCakez
Profile Joined August 2012
United States72 Posts
November 04 2013 05:01 GMT
#50
Darn. It breaks my heart that another SC2 has disbanded... I wish the best for the players and that they can continue their passion for SC2 in other manners.
http://strangersarefriendswaitingtohappen.blogspot.com/
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
November 04 2013 18:10 GMT
#51
im confused here... so this means Navi will no longer carry the FXO.eu team as well? Dafuq... BabyKnight was doing so well too...
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
November 04 2013 18:14 GMT
#52
On November 05 2013 03:10 Advantageous wrote:
im confused here... so this means Navi will no longer carry the FXO.eu team as well? Dafuq... BabyKnight was doing so well too...

BabyKnight left for Millenium two months ago

Na'Vi/FXO.EU no longer exists. Minato has joined another Ukrainian team called Cascade (which was Beastyqt's team). HappyZerg has a personal sponsorship from ESFXtv, which is somehow related to FXO; Strelok is teamless, and LoWeLy is contemplating going inactive.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
chaos021
Profile Joined March 2012
United States258 Posts
November 04 2013 23:38 GMT
#53
On November 02 2013 20:37 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 17:06 chaos021 wrote:
On November 02 2013 06:45 FXOBoSs wrote:
I hate reading threads like this. Mostly because of the insane speculation that goes on. For as long as ESFXTV.com exists they are still in e-sports but in a different way. I think the ultimate reason why FXOpen stopped sponsorship is because the players either 1) refused to stream or 2) couldn't draw viewers to esfxtv.com which in my opinion is a silly platform based on a silly idea.

If viewers had followed the twitter accounts or whatever and clicked on the esfxtv stream links and produced good numbers they would have stayed in the sponsorships or trimmed teams to the ones who drew traffic.

I think unstable touched on this in his leaving video. But there isn't really much else to say about it.


If this is the case, then a lot of teams in general do a spectacularly crappy job of advertising, getting the word or whatever you want to call it. I didn't know anyone on any FXO teams had a twitter that they cared about. EG players, most notably iNcontroL, asks viewers to do things for them, and guess what.... they do it. People will do things to keep teams and/or players going, but they don't read minds. Tons of sheeple to herd out there!


To be fair, they are russian/ukrainian, you are not. They have their own SC2 scene, sc2tv.ru and so on.
If they are active in their scene, publishing news, streaming, we won't hear about that on TL.


So what? I follow White-Ra, DiMaGa, BratOk (when he was streaming). If you play solid Starcraft, I'm looking for you, your stream and anything you give a flying crap about. So why not throw out commercials? Plug your sponsors? Tell the tons of sheeple out there what to click if they like you??? For all of SC2's failing, it has truly become a global game so being Russian or Ukrainian has nothing to do with it in my opinion unless that player has decided to make themselves insular.
footballexpert
Profile Joined September 2012
China13 Posts
November 09 2013 09:37 GMT
#54
sad no new teams
LG-IMMVP FIGHTING!
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