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marconi
Profile Joined March 2010
Croatia220 Posts
October 15 2013 08:45 GMT
#21
boy's got character. Wp to him
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 15 2013 09:02 GMT
#22
On October 15 2013 15:57 Fizzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
They sent an invite for 1 American 4 Europeans and 4 Chinese, essentially, i got EG swagged in.


Am i the only one who find this increadibly bad? With a $10k first prize there should atleast be some top tier players in that tournament. There are players who could beat some of the competition at this tournament in their sleep but still earn less prizemoney than this in a year due to getting knocked out of WCS Kr.

Between this and companies starting to sponsor casters and other non-competitive figures in the scene i can understand why there has been so many awesome players quitting as of late, and why players like NaNiwa are not sure if they will be playing next year.


The primary goal of the tournament was to stimulate the Korean amateur scene. Not saying that the people send there weren't top players, but you might not want the very best of the best there to have more interesting games and a small chance for your local amateurs.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
October 15 2013 09:08 GMT
#23
funny guy
I am not good with quotes
Seanzk
Profile Joined September 2012
China609 Posts
October 15 2013 09:25 GMT
#24
Congrats Xeno
雖千萬人 吾往矣
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5468 Posts
October 15 2013 09:35 GMT
#25
Great interview. Congrats to him.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
October 15 2013 09:37 GMT
#26
On October 15 2013 18:02 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 15:57 Fizzy wrote:
They sent an invite for 1 American 4 Europeans and 4 Chinese, essentially, i got EG swagged in.


Am i the only one who find this increadibly bad? With a $10k first prize there should atleast be some top tier players in that tournament. There are players who could beat some of the competition at this tournament in their sleep but still earn less prizemoney than this in a year due to getting knocked out of WCS Kr.

Between this and companies starting to sponsor casters and other non-competitive figures in the scene i can understand why there has been so many awesome players quitting as of late, and why players like NaNiwa are not sure if they will be playing next year.


The primary goal of the tournament was to stimulate the Korean amateur scene. Not saying that the people send there weren't top players, but you might not want the very best of the best there to have more interesting games and a small chance for your local amateurs.


There were more foreigners than koreans(3) ... so.... I don't really think thats what they wanted to do.
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
October 15 2013 09:49 GMT
#27
I'm jealous Xeno!
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Arolis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States496 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 09:53:07
October 15 2013 09:52 GMT
#28
On October 15 2013 18:37 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 18:02 JustPassingBy wrote:
On October 15 2013 15:57 Fizzy wrote:
They sent an invite for 1 American 4 Europeans and 4 Chinese, essentially, i got EG swagged in.


Am i the only one who find this increadibly bad? With a $10k first prize there should atleast be some top tier players in that tournament. There are players who could beat some of the competition at this tournament in their sleep but still earn less prizemoney than this in a year due to getting knocked out of WCS Kr.

Between this and companies starting to sponsor casters and other non-competitive figures in the scene i can understand why there has been so many awesome players quitting as of late, and why players like NaNiwa are not sure if they will be playing next year.


The primary goal of the tournament was to stimulate the Korean amateur scene. Not saying that the people send there weren't top players, but you might not want the very best of the best there to have more interesting games and a small chance for your local amateurs.


There were more foreigners than koreans(3) ... so.... I don't really think thats what they wanted to do.

I still don't understand why people get so weird-ed out or mad about a mid-tier tournament having any substantial amount of money. People freak out about all the players retiring, but a lot retire because they don't feel they make enough money. But whenever any tournament injects money into the scene that's not at the absolute top, they get shit for it. So fans get mad that players retire, but they also get mad when they get money? I saw a lot of this in the thread that announced Xeno's win but I still don't follow the train of logic in this. Why can't people just be happy that Xeno won and that there is still good prize pools to be won by non-super-s-class-top-tier Koreans. It's good for the scene. In what way is anything that this tournament doing bad?

Their train of thought is that this money could have gone to a "much more deserving" or "better" player. But guess what? If this tournament didn't exist, it doesn't directly correlate to mean that all of this money would have gone to something like the Code S prize pool. More likely the money would have not gone into E-Sports at all. It's a logic fallacy to think that this tournament not existing equals more money for top tier players. It just doesn't. That's not how business, money or sponsorship works.

Congratulate Xeno and don't give him shit about winning a tournament like it's a bad thing.
thirtyapm
Profile Joined January 2012
521 Posts
October 15 2013 10:03 GMT
#29
haha this guy is awesome
KTP_TV
Profile Joined October 2013
France42 Posts
October 15 2013 10:49 GMT
#30
I didn't know he was that cool, I like him
mostevil
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom611 Posts
October 15 2013 10:51 GMT
#31
Add me to the I like this kid crew :D
我的媽和她的瘋狂的外甥都
RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
October 15 2013 11:40 GMT
#32
Hahaha, what a boss. Really like his attitude, shame that the tournament didn't get more coverage. Gratz on the win, though!
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 11:52:55
October 15 2013 11:50 GMT
#33
Wow he is very confident.

On October 15 2013 15:57 Fizzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
They sent an invite for 1 American 4 Europeans and 4 Chinese, essentially, i got EG swagged in.


Am i the only one who find this increadibly bad? With a $10k first prize there should atleast be some top tier players in that tournament. There are players who could beat some of the competition at this tournament in their sleep but still earn less prizemoney than this in a year due to getting knocked out of WCS Kr.

Between this and companies starting to sponsor casters and other non-competitive figures in the scene i can understand why there has been so many awesome players quitting as of late, and why players like NaNiwa are not sure if they will be playing next year.


Money distribution has been incredibly unfair since end of 2010 anyway, who cares.
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
October 15 2013 12:31 GMT
#34
Good questions, good answers, really a good read!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Penguinator
Profile Joined December 2010
United States837 Posts
October 15 2013 12:42 GMT
#35
Xeno is too damn funny xD
Towelie.635
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 15 2013 13:03 GMT
#36
On October 15 2013 15:57 Fizzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
They sent an invite for 1 American 4 Europeans and 4 Chinese, essentially, i got EG swagged in.


Am i the only one who find this increadibly bad? With a $10k first prize there should atleast be some top tier players in that tournament. There are players who could beat some of the competition at this tournament in their sleep but still earn less prizemoney than this in a year due to getting knocked out of WCS Kr.

Between this and companies starting to sponsor casters and other non-competitive figures in the scene i can understand why there has been so many awesome players quitting as of late, and why players like NaNiwa are not sure if they will be playing next year.

Korea supports the foreign scene more than foreigners do apparently.
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Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
October 15 2013 13:57 GMT
#37
Good interview; it's nice when the interviewee actually sounds human. Also; congratulations!
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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
October 15 2013 14:06 GMT
#38
On October 15 2013 13:32 monk wrote:
Also because I love dirty money maybe Suppy has integrity.

love it
jtp118
Profile Joined November 2010
United States137 Posts
October 15 2013 14:25 GMT
#39
this kid is legitimately hilarious
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
October 15 2013 14:45 GMT
#40
Amazing interview.
We know nothing.
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