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[Interview] 2013 WCS KR S3 PL Ro16 Group B

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Mintie
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia563 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-25 13:53:57
September 25 2013 13:43 GMT
#1
Rain – “In the Round of 8, I will show you the ultimate PvZ”
“Lately, I’ve been motivated to play the game”

[image loading]

Rain finished in first in Group B, making it through to the Round of 8.

Rain (of team SK Telecom) defeated KeeN (of team MVP) and Trap (of team SouL) in Group B, in the Round of 16 of the WCS Korea Season 3 Premier League, held at the GOMTV Studio in Gangnam on the 25th.

Tell us how you feel making it through to the Round of 8.

I can only accumulate WCS points by making it to the Round of 8. I’m really glad to have made it.

You showed off sturdy defence in victory.

In PvT, the confidence that I can block anyone’s attack meant that I could play as normal. In the mirror, I came up with a lot of builds but it was a lot harder than I expected. (laughter)

It looked like you were looking to switch up your style.

I realised I should change-up my style a while ago. I didn’t have many chances to show it. It’s just that I didn’t have a chance to show it, I’ve always had this prepared.

In the winners match, you tried to proxy buildings but, you failed.

I wanted to do it regardless of who came up to meet me in the winners match. In practice, I won 100% of the time. I usually do it on a different map, but because I won the first map I deliberated before using it. The result was obvious (laughter)

At the moment, it’s the off-season for Proleague

The mood in the house is incredibly good. We’re all really enjoying the game. Our recent addition Classic is really good so there’s a lot to learn. Lately, I’ve been motivated to play the game.

Any additional thoughts?
For the first time, I’m meeting Soulkey in a BoX series. I’m going to practice thoroughly and show the ultimate PvZ.




Trap – “Today, I rate myself at 60%”
“No matter what, I’m going to make it to the season finals”

[image loading]

For the first time, Trap has progressed to the Ro8 in the Premier League.

Trap (of team SouL) defeated sOs (of team Woongjin) 2:1 in the final match of Group B and progressed in second place out of the Round of 16 of the WCS Korea Season 3 Premier League, held at the GOMTV Studio in Gangnam on the 25th.

For the first time in your life, you’ve made it to the Round of 8. How do you feel?

As I prepared for the matches, I anticipated failure. Since there were 2 Protoss’s, I think that I made it out with mindgames.

In the Round of 8, you’ll be playing a team-kill match.

Dear told me not to come back to the team-house if I come second in the group, but I ended up getting second (laughter). I wanted to meet him further in the tournament, so it’s regretful that we have to meet so soon. It’d be better if we met after we were both guaranteed a spot in the season finals, but we ended up meeting in the Round of 8. Whoever wins through this competition, I hope they’re congratulated.

You beat sOs twice to make it to the Round of 8.

I didn’t prepare anything in particular, and played him with a relaxed mind. In the mirror, the winner is decided by the build-order advantage. I spent a lot of effort on mind-games and projecting a specific image.

What kind of mindgames are you talking about?

Map selection and build selection. I prepared builds that would strengthen the effectiveness of the next build, for the next map.

For the first map against sOs, you prepared a proxy gateway build.

It was a build that I had used in Proleague. Lately on ladder, in my PvP’s, other Protoss’s have been solidly using it. Thinking of that, I decided to use it early to influence future builds.

If you had to choose a hardest map?

The second map against Rain in the winners match. I had confidence in my mindgames and I like micro-based battles so I was able to get an advantage in the early game. However, Rain is outstanding in the late-game so I lost.

In the 2nd map of the last series, sOs attempted an all-in.

In that situation, I didn’t back off because I knew that I couldn’t win by continuing on. In the early-game I knew that as long as the damage didn’t snowball it’d still be viable to go on but because of the damage early on, I ran out of strength. If I had destroyed the Nexus I think it would have been a little easier, but I didn’t identify that.

If you had to rate yourself today?

I’m not sure. I wasn’t happy with myself during practice, and of course today as well. About 60%.

You played in GSTL for the first time.

There’s no big difference. We still haven’t been able to get a win, so I feel apologetic toward the coach. I think that we need to prepare more thoroughly.

What are your goals for this season?

Making it to the season finals is my goal.
Nerevar
Profile Joined January 2013
547 Posts
September 25 2013 13:45 GMT
#2
Interesting to hear that the mood in the SKT1 house is good despite recently losing s2, Best, and Bisu.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
September 25 2013 13:48 GMT
#3
Thanks for the translation.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 25 2013 13:52 GMT
#4
Yeah, thanks for the translations. Nice interviews.

Hopefully Soul will do better in GSTL soon...
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
September 25 2013 13:55 GMT
#5
At the moment, it’s the off-season for Proleague

The mood in the house is incredibly good. We’re all really enjoying the game. Our recent addition Classic is really good so there’s a lot to learn. Lately, I’ve been motivated to play the game.

That's very nice to read!
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 25 2013 13:57 GMT
#6
On September 25 2013 22:55 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
At the moment, it’s the off-season for Proleague

The mood in the house is incredibly good. We’re all really enjoying the game. Our recent addition Classic is really good so there’s a lot to learn. Lately, I’ve been motivated to play the game.

That's very nice to read!


Rain is just happy he probably gets Bisu's old salary :x
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 25 2013 14:05 GMT
#7
On September 25 2013 22:57 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 22:55 ZenithM wrote:
At the moment, it’s the off-season for Proleague

The mood in the house is incredibly good. We’re all really enjoying the game. Our recent addition Classic is really good so there’s a lot to learn. Lately, I’ve been motivated to play the game.

That's very nice to read!


Rain is just happy he probably gets Bisu's old salary :x

So... soO is happy to get part of s2's old salary;
Rain and Classic get the old salary of Bisu and BeSt?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-25 14:08:37
September 25 2013 14:08 GMT
#8
For the first time, I’m meeting Soulkey in a BoX series. I’m going to practice thoroughly and show the ultimate PvZ.


Rain confirmed HerO student

Cool to see that the SKT guys are motivated. Sounds different from a lot of other recent interviews.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
September 25 2013 15:46 GMT
#9
the house is in a good moods cauz of coach oov ofc


ty for translation btw
yo
Koromon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States304 Posts
September 25 2013 15:52 GMT
#10
On September 25 2013 22:43 Mintie wrote:

Dear told me not to come back to the team-house if I come second in the group


Healthy teams make me very very happy inside
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-25 15:53:40
September 25 2013 15:53 GMT
#11
Thanks for translating.

oov having a positive effect already, I'd wager. Glad to hear it!
Flash | Mvp
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
September 25 2013 15:58 GMT
#12
Soul is actually really good they need a sponsor or get picked up :D
Acer_Trap and Acer_Dear anyone?! Would make there toss lineup from nothing (literaly) to super super good
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 25 2013 15:58 GMT
#13
thanks for translation! Good to see the SKT atmosphere is decent despite Bisu and co leaving.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 25 2013 16:03 GMT
#14
On September 26 2013 00:58 GumBa wrote:
Soul is actually really good they need a sponsor or get picked up :D
Acer_Trap and Acer_Dear anyone?! Would make there toss lineup from nothing (literaly) to super super good

Nerchio and Scarlett alone will make sure this won't happen /jk
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-25 16:11:02
September 25 2013 16:10 GMT
#15
On September 25 2013 23:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
For the first time, I’m meeting Soulkey in a BoX series. I’m going to practice thoroughly and show the ultimate PvZ.


Rain confirmed HerO student

Cool to see that the SKT guys are motivated. Sounds different from a lot of other recent interviews.


Rain > HerO

No debate :p
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ThePrince
Profile Joined October 2010
Peru331 Posts
September 25 2013 16:25 GMT
#16
Thanks for the interviews man.

Sux teamkill Dear and Trap.
SK_MC, ST_Parting, STX_Bogus fighting!!! Colossi should shoot nukes and blink.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
September 25 2013 16:25 GMT
#17
On September 26 2013 01:10 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 23:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
For the first time, I’m meeting Soulkey in a BoX series. I’m going to practice thoroughly and show the ultimate PvZ.


Rain confirmed HerO student

Cool to see that the SKT guys are motivated. Sounds different from a lot of other recent interviews.


Rain > HerO

No debate :p


HerO's PvZ > Rain's

> anyone's in fact
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 25 2013 16:48 GMT
#18
On September 26 2013 01:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 01:10 Bagration wrote:
On September 25 2013 23:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
For the first time, I’m meeting Soulkey in a BoX series. I’m going to practice thoroughly and show the ultimate PvZ.


Rain confirmed HerO student

Cool to see that the SKT guys are motivated. Sounds different from a lot of other recent interviews.


Rain > HerO

No debate :p


HerO's PvZ > Rain's

> anyone's in fact

Scarlett new bonjwa confirmed.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ThePrince
Profile Joined October 2010
Peru331 Posts
September 25 2013 16:55 GMT
#19
On September 26 2013 01:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 01:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 26 2013 01:10 Bagration wrote:
On September 25 2013 23:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
For the first time, I’m meeting Soulkey in a BoX series. I’m going to practice thoroughly and show the ultimate PvZ.


Rain confirmed HerO student

Cool to see that the SKT guys are motivated. Sounds different from a lot of other recent interviews.


Rain > HerO

No debate :p


HerO's PvZ > Rain's

> anyone's in fact

Scarlett new bonjwa confirmed.



Gretorp new zerg bonjwa confirmed.
SK_MC, ST_Parting, STX_Bogus fighting!!! Colossi should shoot nukes and blink.
jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
September 26 2013 05:46 GMT
#20
Very nice! GL to players!
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
September 26 2013 05:49 GMT
#21
Thanks for the translations!
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SAFenix
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada439 Posts
September 26 2013 06:18 GMT
#22
On September 26 2013 01:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 01:10 Bagration wrote:
On September 25 2013 23:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
For the first time, I’m meeting Soulkey in a BoX series. I’m going to practice thoroughly and show the ultimate PvZ.


Rain confirmed HerO student

Cool to see that the SKT guys are motivated. Sounds different from a lot of other recent interviews.


Rain > HerO

No debate :p


HerO's PvZ > Rain's

> anyone's in fact

HerO certainly is good at PvZ but idk if you can say it's better than anyone's. Trap certainly is good at that matchup. And HerO is really inconsistent. Remember the time he lost to Min? LOOL oh SlayerS T-T
mYi.Rain | SKT1.soO
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
September 26 2013 06:35 GMT
#23
Thanks Mintie! No surprise Rain says Classic is really good (other than the be-nice-to-the-new-teammate thing). I'm waiting for him to break out in an individual tournament somedayyyy -_-
jjakji fan
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 26 2013 06:37 GMT
#24
I remember their game on Neo Planet S. It was the first time I had ever seen Rain lose in late game laser wars
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
SoFrOsTy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States525 Posts
September 26 2013 07:17 GMT
#25
On September 26 2013 01:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 01:10 Bagration wrote:
On September 25 2013 23:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
For the first time, I’m meeting Soulkey in a BoX series. I’m going to practice thoroughly and show the ultimate PvZ.


Rain confirmed HerO student

Cool to see that the SKT guys are motivated. Sounds different from a lot of other recent interviews.


Rain > HerO

No debate :p


HerO's PvZ > Rain's

> anyone's in fact


Nah, HerO has some decent strategies, but Rain > HerO in PvZ still. And everything else in the game. HerO has spurts of brilliance, but Rain has been the best for so long now.
Julyzerg ftw
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
September 26 2013 07:19 GMT
#26
Anyone who uses Aligulac should be a [SanFan]

it is obligatory
jjakji fan
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
September 26 2013 07:31 GMT
#27
On September 26 2013 16:19 slowbacontron wrote:
Anyone who uses Aligulac should be a [SanFan]

it is obligatory

Just thinking the same :D
San
HerO
sOs
StarDust
Sora
Creator
Squirtle
Rain
Yonghwa
Trap
First
Dear

is the current aligulac PvZ ranking. Not saying it is perfect, just gives an idea
http://aligulac.com/periods/94/?page=1&sort=vz&race=p&nats=all
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 07:37:09
September 26 2013 07:34 GMT
#28
On September 26 2013 16:17 SoFrOsTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 01:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 26 2013 01:10 Bagration wrote:
On September 25 2013 23:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
For the first time, I’m meeting Soulkey in a BoX series. I’m going to practice thoroughly and show the ultimate PvZ.


Rain confirmed HerO student

Cool to see that the SKT guys are motivated. Sounds different from a lot of other recent interviews.


Rain > HerO

No debate :p


HerO's PvZ > Rain's

> anyone's in fact


Nah, HerO has some decent strategies, but Rain > HerO in PvZ still. And everything else in the game. HerO has spurts of brilliance, but Rain has been the best for so long now.


I agree with that outside of PvZ. Rain's PvZ has looked rather weak, especially against Jaedong whereas if you look at HerO, he just keeps rolling zergs. The last zerg that beat HerO in a Bo3 was Scarlett in WCS America last season over 2 months ago... after a failed cannon rush. HerO beat Jaedong at IEM and 4-0 on stream, Hyun 3-0 and just seems a lot more comfortable in the matchup compared to Rain.

On September 26 2013 15:18 SAFenix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 01:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 26 2013 01:10 Bagration wrote:
On September 25 2013 23:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
For the first time, I’m meeting Soulkey in a BoX series. I’m going to practice thoroughly and show the ultimate PvZ.


Rain confirmed HerO student

Cool to see that the SKT guys are motivated. Sounds different from a lot of other recent interviews.


Rain > HerO

No debate :p


HerO's PvZ > Rain's

> anyone's in fact

HerO certainly is good at PvZ but idk if you can say it's better than anyone's. Trap certainly is good at that matchup. And HerO is really inconsistent. Remember the time he lost to Min? LOOL oh SlayerS T-T


Let's rather not talk about WoL.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
September 26 2013 07:35 GMT
#29
He will show the ultimate PvZ against Soulkey. I think Artosis might die of happiness when he sees this.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
SoFrOsTy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States525 Posts
September 26 2013 07:57 GMT
#30
On September 26 2013 16:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 16:17 SoFrOsTy wrote:
On September 26 2013 01:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 26 2013 01:10 Bagration wrote:
On September 25 2013 23:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
For the first time, I’m meeting Soulkey in a BoX series. I’m going to practice thoroughly and show the ultimate PvZ.


Rain confirmed HerO student

Cool to see that the SKT guys are motivated. Sounds different from a lot of other recent interviews.


Rain > HerO

No debate :p


HerO's PvZ > Rain's

> anyone's in fact


Nah, HerO has some decent strategies, but Rain > HerO in PvZ still. And everything else in the game. HerO has spurts of brilliance, but Rain has been the best for so long now.


I agree with that outside of PvZ. Rain's PvZ has looked rather weak, especially against Jaedong whereas if you look at HerO, he just keeps rolling zergs. The last zerg that beat HerO in a Bo3 was Scarlett in WCS America last season over 2 months ago... after a failed cannon rush. HerO beat Jaedong at IEM and 4-0 on stream, Hyun 3-0 and just seems a lot more comfortable in the matchup compared to Rain.

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 15:18 SAFenix wrote:
On September 26 2013 01:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 26 2013 01:10 Bagration wrote:
On September 25 2013 23:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
For the first time, I’m meeting Soulkey in a BoX series. I’m going to practice thoroughly and show the ultimate PvZ.


Rain confirmed HerO student

Cool to see that the SKT guys are motivated. Sounds different from a lot of other recent interviews.


Rain > HerO

No debate :p


HerO's PvZ > Rain's

> anyone's in fact

HerO certainly is good at PvZ but idk if you can say it's better than anyone's. Trap certainly is good at that matchup. And HerO is really inconsistent. Remember the time he lost to Min? LOOL oh SlayerS T-T


Let's rather not talk about WoL.


Yeah even his recent results aren't that impressive. Scarlett is foreigner, she is good, but not great. Hyun is good vs foreigners and ZvZ's, Jaedong is very hit and miss as well. I would love to see HerO beat Symbol, Soulkey, or even soO. I just don't think Zerg's in general are doing that well vs protoss, let alone the Zerg's HerO has played against. I still say Rain is better.
Julyzerg ftw
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
September 26 2013 08:03 GMT
#31
On September 26 2013 16:35 Musicus wrote:
He will show the ultimate PvZ against Soulkey. I think Artosis might die of happiness when he sees this.


Must be a skytoss turtle though :D
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 08:16:17
September 26 2013 08:11 GMT
#32
On September 26 2013 16:57 SoFrOsTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 16:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 26 2013 16:17 SoFrOsTy wrote:
On September 26 2013 01:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 26 2013 01:10 Bagration wrote:
On September 25 2013 23:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
For the first time, I’m meeting Soulkey in a BoX series. I’m going to practice thoroughly and show the ultimate PvZ.


Rain confirmed HerO student

Cool to see that the SKT guys are motivated. Sounds different from a lot of other recent interviews.


Rain > HerO

No debate :p


HerO's PvZ > Rain's

> anyone's in fact


Nah, HerO has some decent strategies, but Rain > HerO in PvZ still. And everything else in the game. HerO has spurts of brilliance, but Rain has been the best for so long now.


I agree with that outside of PvZ. Rain's PvZ has looked rather weak, especially against Jaedong whereas if you look at HerO, he just keeps rolling zergs. The last zerg that beat HerO in a Bo3 was Scarlett in WCS America last season over 2 months ago... after a failed cannon rush. HerO beat Jaedong at IEM and 4-0 on stream, Hyun 3-0 and just seems a lot more comfortable in the matchup compared to Rain.

On September 26 2013 15:18 SAFenix wrote:
On September 26 2013 01:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 26 2013 01:10 Bagration wrote:
On September 25 2013 23:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
For the first time, I’m meeting Soulkey in a BoX series. I’m going to practice thoroughly and show the ultimate PvZ.


Rain confirmed HerO student

Cool to see that the SKT guys are motivated. Sounds different from a lot of other recent interviews.


Rain > HerO

No debate :p


HerO's PvZ > Rain's

> anyone's in fact

HerO certainly is good at PvZ but idk if you can say it's better than anyone's. Trap certainly is good at that matchup. And HerO is really inconsistent. Remember the time he lost to Min? LOOL oh SlayerS T-T


Let's rather not talk about WoL.


Yeah even his recent results aren't that impressive. Scarlett is foreigner, she is good, but not great. Hyun is good vs foreigners and ZvZ's, Jaedong is very hit and miss as well. I would love to see HerO beat Symbol, Soulkey, or even soO. I just don't think Zerg's in general are doing that well vs protoss, let alone the Zerg's HerO has played against. I still say Rain is better.


HerO has never dropped a map against Symbol, he's 9-0 against him. He beat Soulkey in Proleague and he's never played soO. The only real measurement of PvZ that HerO and Rain share is Jaedong. Rain lost 0-2 whereas HerO is unbeaten against him. As for Hyun, he recently made sOs look like a diamond league player at Dreamhack.

Overall PvZ in HotS: HerO 70%, Rain 60%

I mean Rain has played only against Korean zergs in HotS but he hasn't looked comfortable in the matchup and he's shown a strong tendency to all in in it. He's repeatedly said that he feels vZ is his weakest matchup, even after WoL. HerO is pretty confident in PvZ.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
September 26 2013 08:15 GMT
#33
Good to know Rain is enjoying the game
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
September 26 2013 08:54 GMT
#34
On September 26 2013 00:58 GumBa wrote:
Soul is actually really good they need a sponsor or get picked up :D
Acer_Trap and Acer_Dear anyone?! Would make there toss lineup from nothing (literaly) to super super good


That would be so sick, i REALLY hope Acer is seriously concidering it. They just need to sweet talk Daddy (Acer Inc.) to loan them some moar dirty Esports money!
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
CYFAWS
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden275 Posts
September 26 2013 09:10 GMT
#35
HAHA soultrap. gotta play me some skyrim
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
September 26 2013 09:40 GMT
#36
I must say, Trap has really grown on me with his exciting micro-based style.
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
September 26 2013 14:10 GMT
#37
"The mood in the house is incredibly good. We’re all really enjoying the game. Our recent addition Classic is really good so there’s a lot to learn. Lately, I’ve been motivated to play the game."

That's nice to hear. :D

Thanks for the translation, OP!
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