Group D is very much your typical Ro32 group for this tournament – there is the clear favourite of the group, Lucifron, the players who have unknown form, Genius and Grubby, and the underdog of the group, Starbuck. It’s easy to assess the group and assert that Lucifron will come out 2-0 with Genius/Grubby left to fight over the remaining spot. But actually, if recent trends are any indication, this group is likely to be anything but cut and dry.
So far as WCS points are concerned, Grubby and Lucifron need to advance from this group to have any shot at qualifying for the grand finals. Genius and Starbuck could theoretically still qualify, but they’d need to make this finals this season and get top four in the season finals (or something like that). Grubby is at #24 on the points list at the moment, with 1750 points (#16 has 2350). A top-5 finish this season might just be enough to see him through to provide some non-Korean presence at the grand finals. Lucifron has been denied any serious points for two seasons now, but a deep run this season will keep his WCS hopes alive. At #31 with 1250 points, he has some ground to make up but it’s certainly within his grasp.
Lucifron's 1-3 loss to TLO in season 1 was the closest he's gotten to 'serious points'
Let’s look at the first match of the night, Grubby vs Genius. Grubby has come off a top 4 finish in WCS EU last season and a 0-4 exit in the season finals. The contrast between these two results typifies Grubby’s SC2 career to date – one moment he looks like a real contender for a championship and the next you wonder how he made it into the tournament in the first place. Genius suffers from the same syndrome; on a good day he can eliminate anyone in the world and on a bad day he can go out without taking a map. So much depends on the condition of these players that it’s difficult to call a winner in the first match. With that said, I’m fairly sure whoever takes the first series will take a rematch if that transpires. And who will that player be? My moneys on Genius. The last time he dropped a PvP series at a major tournament to a non-Korean was over a year ago and with Grubby’s recent PvP shakiness I suspect he will edge out a victory.
I would be very surprised if Starbuck was able to defeat Lucifron and here’s 3 reasons why. Firstly, it’s Lucifron’s TvZ which I’d rate as probably the best in Europe. Secondly, this is Starbuck’s first really big showing and while it’s being played online, I still feel like Lucifron’s stage experience should give him an edge. Lastly, with Lucifron being a ladder warrior, I doubt that Starbuck is as much of an unknown to him as he is to the average forum goer (and thus knows that Starbuck is more than likely to pull out his own brand of ‘Special Tactics’ and be ready for that).
Assuming the previous predictions hold, we’ll have Genius playing his (statistically) best matchup and Lucifron playing his (statistically) worst matchup (in recent history). While the caliber of Genius’ opponents may be marginally lower than that of Lucifron, that is not enough to alleviate the fact that Lucifron’s Achilles heel has been Protoss since his dual losses to duckdeok and Welmu in season 2. I would love to see Lucifron advance here, but it seems very unlikely. Even if Grubby advanced over Genius, I still doubt that Lucifron would make it through. Thus, I expect Genius to advance first from the group (or Grubby, if he finds himself in this position).
Starbuck, while a huge unknown to most, actually is a player who is very capable of playing unorthodox and original strategies. If you didn’t watch the VOD above, then let me explain what happened. Starbuck stacked 8 or so drones to make them look like a single scouting drone as it crossed the map and then successfully disrupted the Protoss wall long enough for his zerglings to arrive and seal the game. I feel like Starbuck is his strongest when he plays against Protoss because of the flexibility in the strategies he can employ, and I expect that to work to his advantage in this match. With Grubby/Genius/Lucifron all realising that they are the top contenders in their group I expect their preparation time to be more focused on preparing for each other as opposed to Starbuck (except possibly Lucifron). As such, regardless of who loses the Grubby/Genius match, I expect them to go out 0-2 to some creative strategies and resulting in the LR thread being painted red with bans.
I don’t expect anything interesting to happen between Lucifron and Starbuck in the final series – probably Starbuck cheese, Lucifron holding, and Starbuck finishing third. But if Lucifron advances first, then Starbuck has a real shot at making it out of this group (as he gets more games vs Protoss).
On September 10 2013 17:44 SayTT wrote: I can't see any luci-ballz around, I don't think lucifron dares to win this group, I bet he will come in last place.
On September 10 2013 22:26 TheSir wrote: As someone who watches SC2 casually, i never understand these previews.
Think of it like a pregame show, as conventional sports would have. except instead of 4 hours of blathering you read a short write up of what should happen on paper.
My predictions, are hopeful but this is what I want to see happen with no preference on the map score.
If Starbuck watch Curious vs. First in the GSL last week, and incorporated some of his stylings. I think he can make it out, provided he doesn't have to meet lucifron.
A nice slovenian slogan for his performance is just a simple GOTOVI STE! ( "you all are done for")
Coming from a place where only 1% of the people have heard of the word Esports, let alone that they actualy know what it means :D, this is a pretty big achievement you brought to out little country of Slovenia. I would like to thank you Starbuck/AspireAku, for putting us on the Esports-sc2 map of the world. Great games, nail biting till the end.
Hold on, does this mean Grubby is completely eliminated from this season's WCS, as in there's no way he has a potential chance to participate in the WCS finals in Toronto this October??
On September 11 2013 05:22 sacrilegious wrote: Hold on, does this mean Grubby is completely eliminated from this season's WCS, as in there's no way he has a potential chance to participate in the WCS finals in Toronto this October??
Cool thing to see such a surprise, especially when it stems from countries that are just developing their e-sports identities. Congrats! All Slavs unite to battle the Korean invasion :D
On September 11 2013 05:22 sacrilegious wrote: Hold on, does this mean Grubby is completely eliminated from this season's WCS, as in there's no way he has a potential chance to participate in the WCS finals in Toronto this October??
Yes, nor Blizzcon.
I'm so mad right now, and sad at the same time (sorry I didn't know how the elimination process works in this tournament), as I always wanted to meet him and have him sign some of my WC3 memorabilia if he were to come to Toronto this October .... .. *sigh
EU eliminations of MVP and Naniwa have also been surprising... my goodness
On September 11 2013 05:22 sacrilegious wrote: Hold on, does this mean Grubby is completely eliminated from this season's WCS, as in there's no way he has a potential chance to participate in the WCS finals in Toronto this October??
Yes, nor Blizzcon.
I'm so mad right now, and sad at the same time (sorry I didn't know how the elimination process works in this tournament), as I always wanted to meet him and have him sign some of my WC3 memorabilia if he were to come to Toronto this October .... .. *sigh
EU eliminations of MVP and Naniwa have also been surprising... my goodness
Grubby could be around despite the fact he isn't playing. He's an e-sport personality and has lots of friends at every event...maybe he'll be there just for fun and sign your stuff (and has more time to spend with fans because he isn't under pressure)..Don't be mad
On September 10 2013 22:26 TheSir wrote: As someone who watches SC2 casually, i never understand these previews.
Think of it like a pregame show, as conventional sports would have. except instead of 4 hours of blathering you read a short write up of what should happen on paper.
My predictions, are hopeful but this is what I want to see happen with no preference on the map score.
If Starbuck watch Curious vs. First in the GSL last week, and incorporated some of his stylings. I think he can make it out, provided he doesn't have to meet lucifron.
already 2 of the players whp represented europe in wcs season 2 are out, lol............. the rest are yet to play...... anyone else think that we will see 5 new faces again? Mvp, TLO, Dimaga all in challenger league and stephano retired, so no one from wcs season 1 either
On September 11 2013 05:22 sacrilegious wrote: Hold on, does this mean Grubby is completely eliminated from this season's WCS, as in there's no way he has a potential chance to participate in the WCS finals in Toronto this October??
Yes, nor Blizzcon.
I'm so mad right now, and sad at the same time (sorry I didn't know how the elimination process works in this tournament), as I always wanted to meet him and have him sign some of my WC3 memorabilia if he were to come to Toronto this October .... .. *sigh
EU eliminations of MVP and Naniwa have also been surprising... my goodness
None of the Season 1 top-8 made it to the Season 2 top-8. We could be seeing a repeat of that with Naniwa and now Grubby eliminated before we've even made the RO16 (Vortix and DD are currently through, with the remaining 4 yet to play).