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Bosnia-Herzegovina261 Posts
On September 03 2013 06:13 Cyrak wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 06:06 ysnake wrote:On September 03 2013 05:58 MajOr wrote:On September 03 2013 05:57 Neemi wrote:On September 03 2013 05:48 MajOr wrote:On September 03 2013 05:46 Entirety wrote:On September 03 2013 05:41 MajOr wrote:
hes an idiot plz stick talking about protoss vs x cuz clearly he 0 clue about tvz match up I hear that MC is pretty sick with his off-races too  so it dosent matter any terran with some clue how to play this game reads that and knows its plain out wrong Not that I'm siding with MC, but could you explain what's wrong with what he's saying beyond "he has no clue"? Besides like 5% of the games of ZvT I've played where a daring player went mech (I salute you) every single game was the T player going Marine/Marauder/Mine/Medivac and MC backed up his argument quite well. I'm interested to learn different views on the matter. Terrans are basically immune to the roach attacks, ?? and than he says terran dont need to scout xD ok gl playing vs roach bane ifu dont scout First of all, you're toxic and ignorant. Second of all, what you are talking about is ling/bling/roach allin, which, if not scouted, should punish the greedy Terran (as 90% of Terrans go fast 3CC). Third of all, Roach/Bling composition would never work unless Terran lost his Marauder hotkey. And last, but not the least, he's talking about actual aggression, if you see a bunch of Roaches, you make a Siege Tank, or two, or three, yes, right there, Terran is immune to all ground aggression Zerg can throw at him, unless he is going for a big bust, but even then, Siege Tanks on high-ground can ruin your day. Always fun to see random forum posters explain to pro-gamers how to play starcraft.
I wasn't talking about pro-gamers, they're leagues ahead of me, and probably most of posters here as well. I'm talking on Diamond/Masters level, as I'm Diamond myself. Although, if someone could link me a build/game where Roach aggression paid off, I'd be more than happy to try and incorporate that into my gameplay.
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Bosnia-Herzegovina261 Posts
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On September 03 2013 06:20 ysnake wrote:There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, or search the related logs, but you do not have permission to create this page. :/
Maybe remove the bracket at the end of the link?
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On September 03 2013 06:20 ysnake wrote:There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, or search the related logs, but you do not have permission to create this page. :/
That's because the URL somehow included the ')'
Correct URL: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/MajOr
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Major finally got here. Yawn.
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I wonder how much the korean zergs chipped in to use the voice of EL PRESIDENTE. (note: this is a joke)
While I agree with his comments about pro-gaming the almost complete neglection of the stupidity that is TvP just makes his post stink of bias.
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Bosnia-Herzegovina261 Posts
My bad, shouldn't be replying to threads this late anyhow.
Feeling shitty as I should've remembered who MajOr is, but still, I stand by my claims, I withdraw personal attacks though. Gonna sleep, nn everyone.
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On September 03 2013 05:48 MajOr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 05:46 Entirety wrote:On September 03 2013 05:41 MajOr wrote:
hes an idiot plz stick talking about protoss vs x cuz clearly he 0 clue about tvz match up I hear that MC is pretty sick with his off-races too so it dosent matter any terran with some clue how to play this game reads that and knows its plain out wrong
I respect you MajOr as a player but I'm quite sure that MC's offrace is probably better than your main race terran.
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On September 03 2013 06:35 synd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 05:48 MajOr wrote:On September 03 2013 05:46 Entirety wrote:On September 03 2013 05:41 MajOr wrote:
hes an idiot plz stick talking about protoss vs x cuz clearly he 0 clue about tvz match up I hear that MC is pretty sick with his off-races too so it dosent matter any terran with some clue how to play this game reads that and knows its plain out wrong I respect you MajOr as a player but I'm quite sure that MC's offrace is probably better than your main race terran.
It wouldn't change the fact that his statements are wrong.
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On September 03 2013 06:35 synd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 05:48 MajOr wrote:On September 03 2013 05:46 Entirety wrote:On September 03 2013 05:41 MajOr wrote:
hes an idiot plz stick talking about protoss vs x cuz clearly he 0 clue about tvz match up I hear that MC is pretty sick with his off-races too so it dosent matter any terran with some clue how to play this game reads that and knows its plain out wrong I respect you MajOr as a player but I'm quite sure that MC's offrace is probably better than your main race terran.
? are you out of your mind on what grounds u say this?
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what if Blizzard remade Brood War with next-gen 3D graphics
same exact Brood war, just with updated top PC 3D graphics
would this 3D BW game be better than SC2 HOTS?
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On September 03 2013 06:40 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 06:35 synd wrote:On September 03 2013 05:48 MajOr wrote:On September 03 2013 05:46 Entirety wrote:On September 03 2013 05:41 MajOr wrote:
hes an idiot plz stick talking about protoss vs x cuz clearly he 0 clue about tvz match up I hear that MC is pretty sick with his off-races too so it dosent matter any terran with some clue how to play this game reads that and knows its plain out wrong I respect you MajOr as a player but I'm quite sure that MC's offrace is probably better than your main race terran. It wouldn't change the fact that his statements are wrong.
How are his opinions wrong?
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On September 03 2013 06:56 mikumegurine wrote:
what if Blizzard remade Brood War with next-gen 3D graphics
same exact Brood war, just with updated top PC 3D graphics
would this 3D BW game be better than SC2 HOTS?
no .. pathing and all other issues are there
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On September 03 2013 05:58 MajOr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 05:57 Neemi wrote:On September 03 2013 05:48 MajOr wrote:On September 03 2013 05:46 Entirety wrote:On September 03 2013 05:41 MajOr wrote:
hes an idiot plz stick talking about protoss vs x cuz clearly he 0 clue about tvz match up I hear that MC is pretty sick with his off-races too so it dosent matter any terran with some clue how to play this game reads that and knows its plain out wrong Not that I'm siding with MC, but could you explain what's wrong with what he's saying beyond "he has no clue"? Besides like 5% of the games of ZvT I've played where a daring player went mech (I salute you) every single game was the T player going Marine/Marauder/Mine/Medivac and MC backed up his argument quite well. I'm interested to learn different views on the matter. Terrans are basically immune to the roach attacks, ?? and than he says terran dont need to scout xD ok gl playing vs roach bane ifu dont scout
This is true. Roaches are still part of the metagame, and I think MC is guilty of oversimplifying the matchup. I think a lot of his other points are right, when both players agree not to flat out win the game in the beggining. Which is not neccessarily cheese either, like roach ling baneling timing attack does not have to kill the opponent for you to get insanely ahead as a result of it...
If you want an example of someone who doesn't understand this, look no furhter than Jaedong. If you want an example of someone who does understand this, look at Scarlett. In the example I'm choosing right now, Scarlett took 2 games off Bomber before Bomber 4-0 jaedong and made it look easy. Why did bomber make it look easy? Because Jaedong is writing secret agreement to not use roaches in his metagame. He's writing these secret agreeements, and he doesn't even know he's doing it. It's pretty crazy
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The zergs whining here seem to suggest that TvZ is T favored as a matter of fact, but I'm pretty sure if we remove all Korean players from the scence then T would be suddenly be considered UP. And ZvT doesn't seem any more broken than PvT is, funny how MC missed that which certainly didn't help if he was trying to appear unbiased.
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On September 03 2013 06:56 mikumegurine wrote:
what if Blizzard remade Brood War with next-gen 3D graphics
same exact Brood war, just with updated top PC 3D graphics
would this 3D BW game be better than SC2 HOTS?
Nah, As much as I and plenty of others love BW, we do want a new game, just a new game that is actually enjoyable, thats what we wanted.
Half of the fun of an RTS is figuring everything out, especially in the early stages when everything is so new. SC2 was a ton of fun the first 6 months despite it being bad because it was so fresh. The truly good RTS's are the ones like War3 and BW, where even after everything was figued out it was just so much damn fun to play. People sit here and say Ah man "All the doom and gloom." Theres a reason you did not see that in War3 or BW they were fun to play, everybody was busy consuming every minute of game play possible rather than posting on forums about how bad the game was.
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On September 03 2013 06:35 synd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 05:48 MajOr wrote:On September 03 2013 05:46 Entirety wrote:On September 03 2013 05:41 MajOr wrote:
hes an idiot plz stick talking about protoss vs x cuz clearly he 0 clue about tvz match up I hear that MC is pretty sick with his off-races too so it dosent matter any terran with some clue how to play this game reads that and knows its plain out wrong I respect you MajOr as a player but I'm quite sure that MC's offrace is probably better than your main race terran.
Your statement is groundless and it looks like a cheap shot.
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On September 03 2013 07:04 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 06:56 mikumegurine wrote:
what if Blizzard remade Brood War with next-gen 3D graphics
same exact Brood war, just with updated top PC 3D graphics
would this 3D BW game be better than SC2 HOTS? no .. pathing and all other issues are there
It would be more fun to watch, but much tougher to play.
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On September 03 2013 07:10 Zorkmid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 07:04 goody153 wrote:On September 03 2013 06:56 mikumegurine wrote:
what if Blizzard remade Brood War with next-gen 3D graphics
same exact Brood war, just with updated top PC 3D graphics
would this 3D BW game be better than SC2 HOTS? no .. pathing and all other issues are there It would be more fun to watch, but much tougher to play.
This is considered going backward and Blizzard is not going to do that. And I would agree with them. They should give players more things to do rather than make them fight the AI again.
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