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capiston
Profile Joined February 2011
France372 Posts
September 01 2013 01:34 GMT
#61
Too bad, this new format seems great, and there is still a good prize pool...
Sad
TaeJa | Maru | DRG | MKP
Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
September 01 2013 01:34 GMT
#62
This wont be the same without IM and Prime, so disappointing.

Oh well, i can still root for AxiomAcer i guess.
MKP :D ~ MMA ~ Scarlett ~ Taeja ~ Mvp ~ InnoVation ~ Polt | Prime ( RIP :( ) ~ Acer ~ SK Telecom T1 | I enjoyed the locust war of May 3, 2014.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
September 01 2013 01:34 GMT
#63
Tbh I'm surprised Prime pulled out. They must be in desperate straits, given that, uh, they don't even have an LoL team yet and are not guaranteed to get a sponsor even through KeSPA.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
September 01 2013 01:35 GMT
#64
This is silly, there are plenty of other teams that could have participated. EG-TL perhaps? Or both separately?
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 01:38:07
September 01 2013 01:36 GMT
#65
I'm surprised Prime pulled out also. They're roster was already the 2nd weakest in GSTL, and too terran-heavy. Not to mention they came dead last, so I can't see them faring well in SPL.

Maybe if Creator, MKP, and Byun all simultaneously return to prime-form (dat pun) it could happen like when they won their first GSTL. They didn't seem too good at fostering new players.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1415 Posts
September 01 2013 01:36 GMT
#66
On September 01 2013 10:32 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 10:29 Tanzklaue wrote:
soo...

sc2 is almost dead in korea, from what I hear? this move is like the worst possible thing. GSTL is now basically nonexistent, and without proleague to look forward, things look really grim.

it's not dead it's just spread out right now, we need all the korean sc2 teams to be in 1 teamleague, or both teamleagues

thing is, will there be another sc2 proleague? and if there will be one, it will take at least half a year until it comes around again. in that time, basically most koreans will sit on their butts doing almost nothing, because there are only so many places in the WCS.
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
September 01 2013 01:36 GMT
#67
On September 01 2013 10:31 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 10:29 Ammanas wrote:
On September 01 2013 10:24 Dodgin wrote:
So in GSTL we have

- Two teams without a sponsor
- Three eSF teams
- Previous season's champion and runner up leaving the tournament

How can this be anything but terrible? This is just, terrible. It's not even like Proleague is starting up again any time soon so IM MVP and Prime could have played in this before joining Kespa for 2014. I suppose the logical conclusion is that they didn't have a choice and had to leave in order to survive.


Terrible for GSTL? Sure.
For Korean SC2 scene? I don't think so, unifying the scene is the most important thing and this is (assuming IM, MVP and Prime really join SPL) very important step forward!
And with the Kespa opening up, I also believe GOM will actually join them in the end and the unified teamleague will start from next year!


It depends on if and when KeSPA will do a SC2 Proleague again.

While a CJ, KT, SKT, Khan, Stars, Jin Air, Prime, LG-IM, and MVP Proleague sounds fucking awesome, I'm pretty sure the act of not participating for all three teams is directly related to League of Legends and not SC2.


Yes I am pretty convinced it is true - they only go there because of LoL.

Imo, it is really shaping up towards unified SC2 scene.
There were rumors that SC2 Proleague is delayed - that would make sense. Wait till GSTL is over, let also the other (interested) teams join SPL, GOM join Kespa and start the completely unified SC2 Proleague with like 12 teams sometimes around February/March next year with GOM and OGN hosting (or maybe GOM + SPOTV and OGN LoL only).
Sounds awesome? I think it does!
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
September 01 2013 01:36 GMT
#68
On September 01 2013 10:29 Fionn wrote:
You know, looking at the prize money, format, and stuff like best ceremony, the actual system of this season looks amazing.

It's just the lack of teams that makes it sad.

Yeah the format + ceremony stuff is cool.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
September 01 2013 01:37 GMT
#69
Going to be interesting how this ends.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 01:38:33
September 01 2013 01:38 GMT
#70
http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=302140&cid=0&kind=8

map pool was released


Fruitland TL
Number of Players: 2
Map Creator: Semmo (김선우)

[image loading]

Description:

- The map is decorated with delicious fruits. That’s all you need to know! Just kidding.

- Lemons near the center of the map act as destructive rocks and when destroyed, harvesters can collect
the lemon slices for 500 minerals each
. These lemons will re-spawn in 5 minutes.

- The battles will be chaotic and the players will try to collect their lemon slices and deny their opponents.

Note that, in the future, lemon slices are worth 500 minerals.

Poll: Is this the greatest map to have ever graced SC2?

I've been waiting FOREVER for something this cool! (26)
 
52%

Rising lava map WHEN?!?!?!!? (14)
 
28%

No and it's making Koreans hate SC2 even more (10)
 
20%

50 total votes

Your vote: Is this the greatest map to have ever graced SC2?

(Vote): I've been waiting FOREVER for something this cool!
(Vote): No and it's making Koreans hate SC2 even more
(Vote): Rising lava map WHEN?!?!?!!?



I'm so excited for this map

I just wish there were more teams playing.

Innovation vs SOUL matches should be good though.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
mechengineer123
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine711 Posts
September 01 2013 01:38 GMT
#71
Woah this GSTL will be really shitty and unprestigious. I woulda preferred it if they just delayed or skipped it until they had a better plan.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 01 2013 01:38 GMT
#72
On September 01 2013 10:36 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I'm surprised Prime pulled out also. They're roster was already the 2nd weakest in GSTL, and too terran-heavy. Not to mention they came dead last, so I can't see them faring well in SPL.

Maybe if Creator, MKP, and Byun all simultaneously return to prime-form (dat pun) it could happen like when they won their first GSTL. They didn't seem too good at fostering new players.

it's hard for them to foster new players though due to lack of prominence (new players would rather join other teams) as well as no pay/practice conditions etc.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 01 2013 01:39 GMT
#73
UGH they even added Fruitland D:

everything is right, except for the lack of teams....and that it's still bo7
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
DRTnOOber
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
New Zealand476 Posts
September 01 2013 01:39 GMT
#74
If MVP, Prime and LG-IM were in Proleague I think I'd have a nerdgasm.
But I'm off creep... and so I slow down, what are hellions doing here? I don't belong here...
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
September 01 2013 01:40 GMT
#75
On September 01 2013 10:38 mechengineer123 wrote:
Woah this GSTL will be really shitty and unprestigious. I woulda preferred it if they just delayed or skipped it until they had a better plan.


The other way around actually, this is shaping up to be the best GSTL (for the people who are not strict fans of IM, MVP and Prime ^^)
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 01:42:22
September 01 2013 01:40 GMT
#76
Im so sad for the SC scene in korea. I have no problem with LoL but I would much prefer and RTS game dominating the scene. Now we have a Team League with 5 teams, 2 of which are problematic, while LoL is filling Footbal stadiums.

Also, Innovation will probably all-kill everybody.
Woo Jung Ho
Flossy
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States870 Posts
September 01 2013 01:41 GMT
#77
That fruit map seems pretty interesting. Idk about those 500 min lemons though.
At least we get a map with actual color instead of grey, black, or brown.
etternaonline.com
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
September 01 2013 01:41 GMT
#78
fruitland is awesome
Moderatorlickypiddy
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
September 01 2013 01:42 GMT
#79
Will KeSPA actually accept prime? That would shock me
#TheOneTrueDong
ThatGuyDoMo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia516 Posts
September 01 2013 01:42 GMT
#80
so sad to see so few teams T_T
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