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Major Shift in KeSPA Structure: Open to All - Page 10
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malady
United States600 Posts
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chadissilent
Canada1187 Posts
On August 29 2013 00:55 Plansix wrote: That and every major sports league in North America is a monopoly. They receive an exception from the US government for being one, since they provide a product people want and every region has a sports team. It is how most sports leagues work, that they are regulated by a large group of interested parties. That's not quite it. The reason they are "exempt" from laws is because the union and league have formed a collective agreement between the two parties. The second the union decertifies, the anti-trust allegations and lawsuits begin. Even then, there is no guarantee that anti-trust lawsuits will work since the teams are considered individual entities under the single entity that is the league. Shit gets pretty messy. With eSports it's different since its not really the league imposing the rules but the players' association. There is also, to my knowledge, no collective agreement between the PA and the leagues as well as there being multiple leagues to enter. The monopoly case would be a very difficult point to argue due to the structure of the current system. Source: I've taken business classes relating to this stuff. You can see what happened in the recent NHL/NFL CBA fiascos. | ||
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
Pretty please?  | ||
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skyflyfish
Canada499 Posts
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Conut
Canada1026 Posts
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I'm so pumped if this comes true i will LOVE to watch Proleague next season this is going to be so SICK. | ||
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manicshock
Canada741 Posts
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Conut
Canada1026 Posts
On August 29 2013 02:20 Dodgin wrote: It's a kespa miracle! lol that's pretty funny | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19400 Posts
1. KeSPA will open its doors to all organizations currently active in the South Korean eSports industry; Can't wait to see them promoting the Sonic Starleague. This is great news for Brood War and secretly I know this is why this whole thing went down. | ||
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Pontius Pirate
United States1557 Posts
You either die a villain or live long enough to see yourself + Show Spoiler + at the orders of a bureaucracy | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On August 29 2013 00:43 Acertos wrote: They could have done it directly. Imagine if they could have pulled their shit together and made a smooth transition to sc2 without all this kespa vs esf bullshitting (not allowing players to participate in gsl, their shitty end of contract rules, not willing to unite until now etc...). Perhaps Sc2 would be the king game instead of LoL, perharps not but the sc2 korean scene would be in a much better state than it is now if not for their "competition"/"commercial" mentality. They wanted to take control over the korean scene by force and it proved harmful. That was retarded and greedy. With that I don't trust them for anything that they will do. I'm sure we will hear about their stupid behavior again in the future. It wouldn't, at least you came to that conclusion by the end of that thought though. As for the Korean scene, there are a lot of things that could have helped like avoiding the whole IP rights debacle with Blizzard, Blizzard spending their money more efficiently, etc. There are a lot of things that could have went differently. A lot of the animosity towards KeSPA is very misguided and a lot of that shit happened eons ago. It's time to drop it until the next snafu comes up. With that said, there are shades of grey all across the map. We can bitch and moan about every little thing each organization does all day, but that's not going to get us anywhere. You just hope each organization learns from each misdemeanor whether it was them or not. Try to stop history from repeating itself, but we all know it happens meh. | ||
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BulletCL
Chile138 Posts
4. If game developers pay their share of membership fee, the money will be used to promote eSports, organzing amateur tournaments like the Presidential Cup, and supporting eSports teams and players. The Association will actively support the domestic amateur scene, later IeSF will join the Sports Accord, to further provide support for the globalization of eSports. So Blizzard, Riot and Wargaming now has to pay KeSPA to have tournaments of their games featured in Korea? I don't get it. | ||
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a3den
704 Posts
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On August 29 2013 02:58 BisuDagger wrote: Can't wait to see them promoting the Sonic Starleague. This is great news for Brood War and secretly I know this is why this whole thing went down. Hahaha please you know as well as I do Kespa isn't one to admit mistakes and reverse decisions on a whim. This is probably aimed at only at sc2 and lol. Wishful thinking  I just want bisu to retire and dominate SSL | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
I endorse this change. | ||
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figq
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DeathDyingDoomKiller
Canada91 Posts
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Taefox
1533 Posts
On August 29 2013 00:00 eqinf wrote: uhm evry1 beein kespa now Oo, and dota also commin to korean ) + Show Spoiler + this means all sc2 united => no more fighting // commin up also dota => this totaly must lead to dota + sc2 marriage , => what will absolutely lead to civil war in south korea between sc2/ dota fans and lol fans + Show Spoiler + Why this must lead to dota 2 + sc2 marriage ? SC2 has nothing to do with LOL. Get your hate out of this thread please. Tbh, Dota 2 won't survive long in Korea, same as dota. Cheer | ||
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D4RK.EarthQuakeN
United States4 Posts
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zelevin
United States332 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On August 29 2013 03:05 StarStruck wrote: It wouldn't, at least you came to that conclusion by the end of that thought though. As for the Korean scene, there are a lot of things that could have helped like avoiding the whole IP rights debacle with Blizzard, Blizzard spending their money more efficiently, etc. There are a lot of things that could have went differently. A lot of the animosity towards KeSPA is very misguided and a lot of that shit happened eons ago. It's time to drop it until the next snafu comes up. With that said, there are shades of grey all across the map. We can bitch and moan about every little thing each organization does all day, but that's not going to get us anywhere. You just hope each organization learns from each misdemeanor whether it was them or not. Try to stop history from repeating itself, but we all know it happens meh. Not to mention that one of the primary reason why BW wasn't garnering the sponsors as previously around the inception of SC2 is because of Blizzard's firmly stance on their idea that every single one of the precedent leagues were "copyright infringing" and thus illegal. If the whole lawsuits didn't happen and Blizzard left Kespa roaming arbitrarily, BW would have still persisted due to the positive stigma around it. So the current trajectory actually proved to be actually beneficial for the SC2 "scene". | ||
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