EPTChoKun Shop is an online clothing mall.
+ OGN does not broadcast this GSL (and probably so on)
Wcs kr s3 gsl's main sponsor is ChoKun Shop
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egernya
Canada352 Posts
ChoKun Shop is an online clothing mall. + OGN does not broadcast this GSL (and probably so on) | ||
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MasterCynical
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was that just for season 1? | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
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ChoDing
United States740 Posts
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zachMEISTER
United States625 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
And we're right back to square one... | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
On August 28 2013 13:53 ChoDing wrote: Its jo goon shop http://jogunshop.com/ | ||
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Charlie.Sheen
662 Posts
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Holdenintherye
Canada1441 Posts
What he meant is that it should be pronounced "goon". | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On August 28 2013 14:17 Holdenintherye wrote: What he meant is that it should be pronounced "goon". woooo, korean romanization! | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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Tobblish
Sweden6404 Posts
Ofc it looks pretty damn stupid doing it and it made little to no sense to do it in the first place but hey would be cool to hear if it's only scheduling issues of some kind. The SC2 scene in Korea is pretty troublesome and not having it on TV seem to be even more troubling or do the fans/people find their way to GOMTV instead? | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On August 28 2013 14:22 Tobblish wrote: Is there a specific reason to why they are not going to piggyback the casting? Ofc it looks pretty damn stupid doing it and it made little to no sense to do it in the first place but hey would be cool to hear if it's only scheduling issues of some kind. The SC2 scene in Korea is pretty troublesome and not having it on TV seem to be even more troubling or do the fans/people find their way to GOMTV instead? It's stupid to promote, dedicate your precious air time to another station's program, no? Especially when your focus is something else Didnt most of you guys watch Tastosis instead last OSL anyway? happy now? | ||
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Alstroemeria
99 Posts
On August 28 2013 14:22 Tobblish wrote: Is there a specific reason to why they are not going to piggyback the casting? Ofc it looks pretty damn stupid doing it and it made little to no sense to do it in the first place but hey would be cool to hear if it's only scheduling issues of some kind. The SC2 scene in Korea is pretty troublesome and not having it on TV seem to be even more troubling or do the fans/people find their way to GOMTV instead? GOM is broadcasting their groups on Wednesday through Friday instead of the usual Tuesday and Thursday, which makes OGN unable to co broadcast WCS KR S3 due to League of Legends. | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On August 28 2013 14:37 Arceus wrote: It's stupid to promote, dedicate your precious air time to another station's program, no? Especially when your focus is something else Didnt most of you guys watch Tastosis instead last OSL anyway? happy now? But what did Koreans watch? OGN. | ||
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MCXD
Australia2738 Posts
It's really not anything more complicated than that. Why make it more complicated than that? | ||
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Nerevar
547 Posts
On August 28 2013 14:43 Alstroemeria wrote: GOM is broadcasting their groups on Wednesday through Friday instead of the usual Tuesday and Thursday, which makes OGN unable to co broadcast WCS KR S3 due to League of Legends. I read a post somewhere saying that this season of WCS might have to be a bit more rushed compared to other seasons due to Blizzcon coming up so soon in November. If this is true, then perhaps OGN was unable to accommodate for this tighter, busier scheduling around their other games and programs. | ||
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
On August 28 2013 14:43 Alstroemeria wrote: GOM is broadcasting their groups on Wednesday through Friday instead of the usual Tuesday and Thursday, which makes OGN unable to co broadcast WCS KR S3 due to League of Legends. 채정원 안녕하세요. 혹시나 오해하실까봐 글 남겨요. 애초에 온게임넷에서 이번 GSL을 방송하지 않겠다고 통보했기 때문에 저희 (곰티비)가 일정을 수/목/금 으로 바꾼 것입니다. This is Mr. Chae's post on Pgr21 (one of the korean esports communities). He is basically saying that OGN informed GomTV of not broadcasting WCS kr season 3 therefore Gomtv rescheduled to Wed/Thurs/Friday. | ||
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Tobblish
Sweden6404 Posts
On August 28 2013 14:37 Arceus wrote: It's stupid to promote, dedicate your precious air time to another station's program, no? Especially when your focus is something else Didnt most of you guys watch Tastosis instead last OSL anyway? happy now? I watched OGN since I heavily prefered them over Tastosis.. Suddenly I'm not as excited for S3 ;; On August 28 2013 14:43 Alstroemeria wrote: GOM is broadcasting their groups on Wednesday through Friday instead of the usual Tuesday and Thursday, which makes OGN unable to co broadcast WCS KR S3 due to League of Legends. Damn that sucks so much. Edit: Thx for the clarification mongmong. Guess they jumped ship, I really wonder if OSL is going to be apart of WCS 2014. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
So OGN must broadcast another station's content for the sake of Korean starcraft scene right? No man it doesnt work that way On August 28 2013 14:57 Tobblish wrote: I watched OGN since I heavily prefered them over Tastosis.. Suddenly I'm not as excited for S3 ;; Same  VLC on my cellphones is gonna be useless for god knows how long | ||
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
Also that sponsor looks pretty underwhelming ;~; | ||
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RiZu
Singapore5715 Posts
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
On August 28 2013 15:12 RiZu wrote: This is pretty awesome since there are no more Bo1 for RO32. On the other hand, we will hardly see any flukes and no more WCS on Korea TV =( Perhaps ogn didnt get enough viewership to justify their costs to broadcast on tv and its better for them to do something else instead (like lol rebroadcast). | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
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Sprouter
United States1724 Posts
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ChoDing
United States740 Posts
On August 28 2013 14:17 Holdenintherye wrote: What he meant is that it should be pronounced "goon". yep thats what i meant. 조군 not 조건 :D | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
On August 28 2013 14:57 mongmong wrote: 채정원 안녕하세요. 혹시나 오해하실까봐 글 남겨요. 애초에 온게임넷에서 이번 GSL을 방송하지 않겠다고 통보했기 때문에 저희 (곰티비)가 일정을 수/목/금 으로 바꾼 것입니다. This is Mr. Chae's post on Pgr21 (one of the korean esports communities). He is basically saying that OGN informed GomTV of not broadcasting WCS kr season 3 therefore Gomtv rescheduled to Wed/Thurs/Friday. | ||
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
On August 28 2013 15:41 Seeker wrote: Has anyone else noticed that mongmong ALWAYS hits enter whenever he makes a post? It's like he has some kind of sickness or something -__-;; Has anyone noticed that Seeker always mistranslates interviews? It's like he is mentally retarded or something -___- | ||
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Alstroemeria
99 Posts
On August 28 2013 14:57 mongmong wrote: 채정원 안녕하세요. 혹시나 오해하실까봐 글 남겨요. 애초에 온게임넷에서 이번 GSL을 방송하지 않겠다고 통보했기 때문에 저희 (곰티비)가 일정을 수/목/금 으로 바꾼 것입니다. This is Mr. Chae's post on Pgr21 (one of the korean esports communities). He is basically saying that OGN informed GomTV of not broadcasting WCS kr season 3 therefore Gomtv rescheduled to Wed/Thurs/Friday. Oh ok. Thanks for the info mongmong, though I wonder if OGN will announce their reasoning behind for not broadcasting. | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
On August 28 2013 15:45 mongmong wrote: Has anyone noticed that Seeker always mistranslates interviews? It's like he is mentally retarded or something -___- lol. Well played sir. Just want to point this out though. Me mistranslating interviews is not on purpose. You hittin ENTER mutliple times before posting is. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On August 28 2013 15:40 Kreb wrote: Who can blame OGN really? S1 had like what, 20k viewers on GomTV and 200 on OGN or something like that? We are talking about the Korean rebroadcasts on TV... Anyways, sucks for sc2 not being on TV in Korea, but I don't mind seeing WCS Korea completely in the hands of gom. | ||
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On August 28 2013 16:07 JustPassingBy wrote: We are talking about the Korean rebroadcasts on TV... Anyways, sucks for sc2 not being on TV in Korea, but I don't mind seeing WCS Korea completely in the hands of gom. SC 2 only being broadcasted on GOM means that the Korean Starcraft scene is pretty much dead. There is no way 10+ teams will be able to sustain themselves. KeSPA teams will probably completely switch over to LoL. | ||
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
On August 28 2013 16:01 Seeker wrote: lol. Well played sir. Just want to point this out though. Me mistranslating interviews is not on purpose. You hittin ENTER mutliple times before posting is. I do it so that I can make it easier to read. I also want to point out that you seem to try to find faults with other people when they point out what you did wrong. I also remember last time when some poster (i think it was phoenixvoid) did a translation, you were too busy finding faults with it even though it was translated really well  . I just think your ego can't stand other people translating because you want to get all the credit for it lololol. | ||
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
On August 28 2013 15:04 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: I wonder what Khaldor has to say about that. why? Hmm... I guess it's less than ideal for OGN to use that rebroadcast system, kills off much hype and you don't even have an interview by your own guys... Too bad! | ||
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DoA
Korea (South)599 Posts
Monte and I have been casting both OGN's LoL content and SC2 content all year, which has been fun, but also extremely draining. Combine that with the fact that it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to have two separate English casts of the same games in the first place and add in one of those casts has to compete with a much more established broadcast and the decision is a pretty easy one. Also consider that OGN's LoL content has been doing incredibly well and it makes sense to direct limited resources (Monte and I) where they'll make the biggest impact for the company. I completely agree with OGN on this one. (that is, if it's true, which it probably is, but here's a disclaimer just in case because I haven't been officially told yet that it might not be true, but it probably is, but maybe not... No.. it is...Yes. Possibly not that it definitely is maybe true, with some uncertainty... certainly) While I'll miss casting WCS, this makes a lot more sense for everyone involved and I think it's better for the community too. Besides, I'm sure I'll cast some SC2 again eventually. This isn't a 'retirement speech' or anything. So TL:DR - There's no drama. Everything's grand. I'll enjoy watching the GSL next season with the rest of you! | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
On August 28 2013 16:18 mongmong wrote: I do it so that I can make it easier to read. I also want to point out that you seem to try to find faults with other people when they point out what you did wrong. I also remember last time when some poster (i think it was phoenixvoid) did a translation, you were too busy finding faults with it even though it was translated really well . I just think your ego can't stand other people translating because you want to get all the credit for it lololol. ??? I have no idea what you are talking about. If you're going to call me out like this then back it up with some evidence or proof. Once you do, I will gladly clarify as to whether or not your accusations were correct or not. | ||
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
On August 28 2013 13:55 zachMEISTER wrote: OGN boycotting rebroadcast? They realise that SC2 is not profitable and have other games more worth their investment. Sad there will be no Korean stream | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On August 28 2013 16:18 Eury wrote: SC 2 only being broadcasted on GOM means that the Korean Starcraft scene is pretty much dead. There is no way 10+ teams will be able to sustain themselves. KeSPA teams will probably completely switch over to LoL. You haven't followed broodwar huh. Throughout its history there has been many teams that have appeared and gone. Plus in BW there was two broadcasters MBCGames and OGN. So losing teams is natural. no big deal. | ||
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On August 28 2013 16:44 ptbl wrote: You haven't followed broodwar huh. Throughout its history there has been many teams that have appeared and gone. Plus in BW there was two broadcasters MBCGames and OGN. So losing teams is natural. no big deal. There is a big deal when no new teams replace the old ones. Then we have this: Chris Loranger @LorangerChris 15m @sk__mc no more IM house? 장민철 @sk__mc 5m @LorangerChris yes | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On August 28 2013 16:47 Eury wrote: There is a big deal when no new teams replace the old ones. Then we have this: Chris Loranger @LorangerChris 15m @sk__mc no more IM house? 장민철 @sk__mc 5m @LorangerChris yes Axiom, Acer, EG, TL, Jin Air have recently gotten involved in Korea with the Team Leagues. Not sure when you say no new teams are getting involved. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On August 28 2013 16:47 Eury wrote: There is a big deal when no new teams replace the old ones. Then we have this: Chris Loranger @LorangerChris 15m @sk__mc no more IM house? 장민철 @sk__mc 5m @LorangerChris yes btw, mc is just moving out of the team house. it's not closing down. | ||
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NexCa
Germany954 Posts
On August 28 2013 14:17 Holdenintherye wrote: What he meant is that it should be pronounced "goon". Like DraGOON (good old bw days) | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
On August 28 2013 16:36 Seeker wrote: ??? I have no idea what you are talking about. If you're going to call me out like this then back it up with some evidence or proof. Once you do, I will gladly clarify as to whether or not your accusations were correct or not. Let me help you out 블리자드 밸런스 책임자와 일대 일 면담을 가질 기회가 생겼다고 가정해보죠. 만일 그분이 한 가지 의견만큼은 적극 반영하겠다고 말을 해온다면, 어떤 요구를 하고 싶나요? 감염충의 진균 번식이요. 지금 발사형으로 바뀌었는데, 그것 때문에 저저전이 말려버렸어요. 감염충 효율이 떨어지면서 뮤탈리스크만 나오게 됐거든요. 가뜩이나 뮤탈리스크도 더 빨라져서... 진균 번식을 원래대로 돌렸으면 좋겠어요. Q: Let’s suppose you have a conversation with Blizzard’s balancing team. If you could say one thing, what would it be? A: Infestor’s Fungal Growth. It is a new expansion, 저저전이 말려버렸어요 (I have no idea what this means, even my parents cannot comprehend it). The efficiency of Infestors has fallen so Mutalisks have replaced them. Mutalisks were already popular… If Fungal Growth could return to the original state, it would be nice. It should say: Q: Let’s suppose you could have a one-on-one conversations with the Blizzard guy in charge of balancing StarCraft. If you could request one thing that would be taken into consideration, what would it be? A: A change to the Infestor’s Fungal Growth. Now that it's become a projectile ability, ZvZ has dried up. (Meaning that ZvZ has lost its inspiration because everyone now goes for mutas) So that's why Life is requesting that fungal growths return to its original state. Overall, good job with the translation. I noticed a lot of errors and inaccurate translations ^^;; But you are a total boss for attempting this and we are all grateful for it. Take it from a guy who experienced translation growth personally. Practice makes perfect. You see, what Phoenixvoid translated did not have mistranslation as you pointed out, yet you just had to rephrase it so it could make yourself look better ?( I understand he didnt get what "저저전이 말려버렸어요" ) You're overlooking the fact that you're a shitty translator. I remember correcting your mistranslated bullshit interview and thinking "I wonder if he is doing this on purpose" ? oh and dont get me wrong, I did so on good intentions not to call you out for being a BAD translator. Do you remember how I corrected you on the interview after Maru-innovation and you were like "uh uh? whats the difference?". Can't really tell if you couldn't really understand what I posted or you didnt bother to read it. If it's the former, I suggest that you do your shit properly. Hey, I want to contribute to the esports community as much as I can by translating interviews, articles and so on but I know my english sucks, so I refrain from doing it. Have a nice day | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On August 28 2013 17:24 opterown wrote: seeker drama I'm not sure what to think | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
On August 28 2013 17:12 mongmong wrote: Let me help you out 블리자드 밸런스 책임자와 일대 일 면담을 가질 기회가 생겼다고 가정해보죠. 만일 그분이 한 가지 의견만큼은 적극 반영하겠다고 말을 해온다면, 어떤 요구를 하고 싶나요? 감염충의 진균 번식이요. 지금 발사형으로 바뀌었는데, 그것 때문에 저저전이 말려버렸어요. 감염충 효율이 떨어지면서 뮤탈리스크만 나오게 됐거든요. 가뜩이나 뮤탈리스크도 더 빨라져서... 진균 번식을 원래대로 돌렸으면 좋겠어요. Q: Let’s suppose you have a conversation with Blizzard’s balancing team. If you could say one thing, what would it be? A: Infestor’s Fungal Growth. It is a new expansion, 저저전이 말려버렸어요 (I have no idea what this means, even my parents cannot comprehend it). The efficiency of Infestors has fallen so Mutalisks have replaced them. Mutalisks were already popular… If Fungal Growth could return to the original state, it would be nice. It should say: Q: Let’s suppose you could have a one-on-one conversations with the Blizzard guy in charge of balancing StarCraft. If you could request one thing that would be taken into consideration, what would it be? A: A change to the Infestor’s Fungal Growth. Now that it's become a projectile ability, ZvZ has dried up. (Meaning that ZvZ has lost its inspiration because everyone now goes for mutas) So that's why Life is requesting that fungal growths return to its original state. Overall, good job with the translation. I noticed a lot of errors and inaccurate translations ^^;; But you are a total boss for attempting this and we are all grateful for it. Take it from a guy who experienced translation growth personally. Practice makes perfect. You see, what Phoenixvoid translated did not have mistranslation as you pointed out, yet you just had to rephrase it so it could make yourself look better ?( I understand he didnt get what "저저전이 말려버렸어요" ) You're overlooking the fact that you're a shitty translator. I remember correcting your mistranslated bullshit interview and thinking "I wonder if he is doing this on purpose" ? oh and dont get me wrong, I did so on good intentions not to call you out for being a BAD translator. Do you remember how I corrected you on the interview after Maru-innovation and you were like "uh uh? whats the difference?". Can't really tell if you couldn't really understand what I posted or you didnt bother to read it. If it's the former, I suggest that you do your shit properly. Hey, I want to contribute to the esports community as much as I can by translating interviews, articles and so on but I know my english sucks, so I refrain from doing it. Have a nice day Why are you so mad? Calm down dude.... You see, what Phoenixvoid translated did not have mistranslation as you pointed out, yet you just had to rephrase it so it could make yourself look better? I did not rephrase it to make myself look better. I rephrased it because in my opinion, his original sentence was structured incorrectly. But you know what? PLENTY of people have pointed out my mistakes in the past. Whenever I try to help someone, if I actually end up making the original worse, then I own up to it and apologize to the original person that I was wrong and the he was right. oh and dont get me wrong, I did so on good intentions not to call you out for being a BAD translator. EXACTLY same thing I did for PhoenixVoid. Exactly where in that entire quote that you posted did I do anything but convey good intentions? Do you remember how I corrected you on the interview after Maru-innovation and you were like "uh uh? whats the difference?". Can't really tell if you couldn't really understand what I posted or you didnt bother to read it. If it's the former, I suggest that you do your shit properly. I did do my shit properly. I quoted your post straight to Waxangel and asked him if that was correct. Once he confirmed that you were, I changed my post to match yours. You're overlooking the fact that you're a shitty translator. Okay, you're right, I'm a shitty translator. Now that I've openly admitted that, let's move on. But I know my english sucks, so I refrain from doing it. My English sucks too. But I still do it. In conclusion? You can be mad at me all you want but I really don't care. I'll still keep translating and do what I do cause I love it. But know this. I NEVER fucking keep a straight face and just move on and pretend like nothing is wrong if I am called out for inaccuracies or for mistakes. I own up to them and I always apologize. Have a nice day. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
On August 28 2013 18:10 opterown wrote: but seeker, this all started when you called mongmong out on having some kind of sickness, which is pretty damn BM Honestly that was meant to be more of a joke than anything. If that was considered BM then I apologize. But he retaliated with calling me mentally retarded and that's when this whole thing started. | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
mongmong if you took offense to what I said originally then I'm sorry. I didn't mean for my comment to come out the way it did. | ||
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Darkdwarf
Sweden960 Posts
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Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
On August 28 2013 19:09 Kasaraki wrote: I want a mongmong and Seeker grudgematch. Grudgetranslation! OnTopic: Lets wait and see boys! | ||
Nyovne
Netherlands19135 Posts
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
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Iberville
Canada207 Posts
Does anyone know OGN's broadcast schedule? Will they rebroadcast WCS in Korean? | ||
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nighcol
298 Posts
I seem to recall that some of this past OSL WCS was actually not broadcast on TV either though. Pretty bad deal since it meant less of the awesome GOM production. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
On August 28 2013 19:02 Darkdwarf wrote: If we'd get no more DoA and Montecristo, I'll be sad. I started out last season only watching GOM but I slowly switched over to OGN to hear that specific combo. It's exactly the same for me, but I always wondered how they managed to work that hard and cast both games so well. Must have been extremely exhausting. | ||
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
Sounds like a Sonic Starleague sponsor. | ||
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SamirDuran
Philippines894 Posts
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
On August 28 2013 22:58 purakushi wrote: No Korean stream What? I can't possibly believe this, because solely for a Western audience the exposure would be basically useless for this sponsor | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 28 2013 16:51 ptbl wrote: Axiom, Acer, EG, TL, Jin Air have recently gotten involved in Korea with the Team Leagues. Not sure when you say no new teams are getting involved. Not sure why you list all of those separately when Axiom-Acer are a joint team, and so are/were EG-TL (whose participation in the next season is so far unconfirmed but largely believed to be unlikely). Jin Air is essentially Kespa Team 8 finally finding a sponsor, so not exactly a new team getting involved in the scene. (and to put things into perspective, it was the combined remnants of MBCGame Hero, WeMadeFOX and Hwaseung Oz to begin with, teams that disbanded not too long ago) Plus, considering Bogus' transfer to Acer (which definitely does not bode well for STX considering they've announced recently that they will continue to support the team, and now lose their brightest star) and the struggles of what we considered the most financially secure eSF team in IM with their main sponsor (LG), things aren't exactly all sunshine and rainbows. We'll just have to wait and see. And to everyone wishing for a joint GSTL-PL, Scarlett already leaked there will be a 2nd Season of GSTL so we may not get to see that just yet, if ever. :/ | ||
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
On August 28 2013 23:15 UmberBane wrote: What? I can't possibly believe this, because solely for a Western audience the exposure would be basically useless for this sponsor GOM will still have their Korean stream, but OGN's was free. | ||
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Brian333
657 Posts
On August 28 2013 20:33 Nyovne wrote: I strongly suggest you two stop this and take it to PM or I'll be forced to do it for you. But the SC2 community loves its public drama! | ||
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nohole
United States56 Posts
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VManOfMana
United States764 Posts
In the meantime, it makes sense to focus their efforts on something that brings more viewership. Afterall, who wants to broadcast for an audience who basically has no respect for how they have run things for so long? | ||
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Gorribal
Canada186 Posts
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synd
Bulgaria586 Posts
Gratz | ||
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theking1
Romania658 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On August 28 2013 21:28 N.geNuity wrote: so it's like a much worse version of tossgirl mall? There is nothing better than Tossgirl mall. Nothing. Not even NaDaMall. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 29 2013 17:31 theking1 wrote: Well this isn't good.Less sc2 on tv means less viewers for sc2 which in turn means less sponsors and less sponsorship money for sc2 teams.Sponsors are looking for return of investment ya know.Oh well you can not realistically force a television to broadcast a competing television esport shows.Although relistically it would make sense since ogn in a couple of months will be bradcasting wcs on their own channel and it would be a good idea to hype wcs up so they in turn will get better viewership. How do you know they'll still be broadcasting WCS? | ||
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theking1
Romania658 Posts
On August 29 2013 17:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote: How do you know they'll still be broadcasting WCS? They got a contract with blizzard,got about 8 sc2 teams with good sponsors,sc2 is the second most viewed esport in korea etc.Don't get it twisted.OGN wants to broadcast sc2/What you see here is nothing less than petty frictions between ogn and gom.Nothing to do with sc2.If you wanna know how low korean televisions go when it comes to competition between them just watch some of khaldor older blogs on the topic of ogn-gom frictions.For example ogn and kespa didnt want their players to play in the gsl and esf player had to threaten to boycot the osl.Only then did kespa players were allowed in the gsl.Its the petty politics that are killing sc2 in korea not the game itself. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 29 2013 17:43 theking1 wrote: They got a contract with blizzard,got about 8 sc2 teams with good sponsors,sc2 is the second most viewed esport in korea etc.Don't get it twisted.OGN wants to broadcast sc2/What you see here is nothing less than petty frictions between ogn and gom.Nothing to do with sc2.If you wanna know how low korean televisions go when it comes to competition between them just watch some of khaldor older blogs on the topic of ogn-gom frictions.For example ogn and kespa didnt want their players to play in the gsl and esf player had to threaten to boycot the osl.Only then did kespa players were allowed in the gsl.Its the petty politics that are killing sc2 in korea not the game itself. I'm sure this contract you're speaking of also includes broadcasting this season, and yet they're not. How curious. I'd also like to see a source for "sc2 is the second most viewed esport in korea" although I doubt you can provide one. | ||
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theking1
Romania658 Posts
On August 29 2013 17:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote: I'm sure this contract you're speaking of also includes broadcasting this season, and yet they're not. How curious. I'd also like to see a source for "sc2 is the second most viewed esport in korea" although I doubt you can provide one. No it actually doesnt.It only says that gom and ogn alternate in broadcasting wcs. Yes it is the second most watched esoort.That is why it is on 2 televisions.Dota2 and wot are popular but not as popular as sc2.If they were they would be in sc2's place on gom and ogn which they are not .On gom wot has like 2k viewers for their wot competition and the dota2 scene is very small.Hence by logical deduction sc2 is the second most viewed esport.Unless you can provide me with a counterexample. | ||
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rename
Estonia329 Posts
They just need to get a unified team league going that alternates between OGN and GomTV like WCS does ( slight hope of something like that even happening with the recent kespa changes ) so there is always some starcraft on both OGN and gom. edit: PS, source for the "2nd most popular esport" thing http://gametv.afreeca.com/ the top stream list (google) translates to: League of Legends Minecraft Starcraft 2 Starcraft Lineage Sudden Attack Karting ION DOTA2 Dungeon and Fighter Marble of all Maple Story Warcraft Diablo 3 One between the fuzz ArcheAge World of Warcraft Special Force Blade & Soul World of Tanks Do honors | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 29 2013 17:51 theking1 wrote: No it actually doesnt.It only says that gom and ogn alternate in broadcasting wcs. Yes it is the second most watched esoort.That is why it is on 2 televisions.Dota2 and wot are popular but not as popular as sc2.If they were they would be in sc2's place on gom and ogn which they are not .On gom wot has like 2k viewers for their wot competition and the dota2 scene is very small.Hence by logical deduction sc2 is the second most viewed esport.Unless you can provide me with a counterexample.GOM does not broadcast on television. Hence Blizzard having them supposedly work together with OGN. On August 29 2013 17:52 rename wrote: Good... the dual stream was awkward anyway. They just need to get a unified team league going that alternates between OGN and GomTV like WCS does ( slight hope of something like that even happening with the recent kespa changes ) so there is always some starcraft on both OGN and gom. edit: PS, source for the "2nd most popular esport" thing http://gametv.afreeca.com/ the top stream list (google) translates to: League of Legends Minecraft Starcraft 2 Starcraft Lineage Sudden Attack Karting ION DOTA2 Dungeon and Fighter Marble of all Maple Story Warcraft Diablo 3 One between the fuzz ArcheAge World of Warcraft Special Force Blade & Soul World of Tanks Do honors Interesting ranking, thanks for substantiating the claim although it's interesting to note that StarCraft 2 was 4 spots lower on that list in the previous ranking. | ||
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Pontius Pirate
United States1557 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 29 2013 18:10 Pontius Pirate wrote: I wonder if they rolled all the "craft" games into one if it would beat LoL... In Korea? Very unlikely. When Blizzard pulled the plug on professional BW, most of the fans went to other games (which I suspect is mostly LoL) rather than SC2, so both SC games lost quite a bit there. | ||
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theking1
Romania658 Posts
On August 29 2013 18:05 MasterOfPuppets wrote: GOM does not broadcast on television. Hence Blizzard having them supposedly work together with OGN. Interesting ranking, thanks for substantiating the claim although it's interesting to note that StarCraft 2 was 4 spots lower on that list in the previous ranking. look are we going to talk facts or are you going to ride the sc2 is dying parade?The contract between blizzard and gom and ogn only stipulates they will organize wcs korea one at a time and nothing else.And this was made clear in the innitial announcement.There is no stipulation ogn has to broadcast for gom when gom is producing the wcs.If you have a source I would be glad to see it.And if you wanna see how stuff works between gom and ogn in korea like I said just watch the khaldor videos on this topic.And the afreeca tv thingy doesn't mean anything.Afreeca is just a korean version of twitch.A lot of casual games get views there based on random factors such as launch hype,popularity of the broadcaster etc.There is no way in hell ION and karting are more popular than dota2. "One between the fuzz"-what the,,,, | ||
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XaCez
Sweden6991 Posts
On August 29 2013 18:26 theking1 wrote:look are we going to talk facts or are you going to ride the sc2 is dying parade?"One between the fuzz"-what the,,,, On August 29 2013 18:26 theking1 wrote: Except for, you know, the facts that you quoted. There is no way in hell ION and karting are more popular than dota2.  | ||
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theking1
Romania658 Posts
On August 29 2013 18:29 XaCez wrote: Except for, you know, the facts that you quoted. my comments regarded mostly esports and their broadcast on tv.do not think ION and one between the fuzz can get many viewers on wither gom or ogn.sc2 can .But if it were after 12 o clock in the night and I would see something with thetitle one between the fuzz I might tune in. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 29 2013 18:43 theking1 wrote: my comments regarded mostly esports and their broadcast on tv.do not think ION and one between the fuzz can get many viewers on wither gom or ogn.sc2 can .But if it were after 12 o clock in the night and I would see something with thetitle one between the fuzz I might tune in.GOM does not broadcast on TV. | ||
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theking1
Romania658 Posts
it is an online television.the requirements are about the same as for a regular television | ||
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