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Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
August 09 2013 07:17 GMT
#361
This is typical Korean drama bullshit. Disappointing.
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NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
August 09 2013 07:17 GMT
#362
if they don't pay them, i will bever buy anything again from LG. (Yes, my Monitor is actually from LG)
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Cute_Fluff
Profile Joined March 2011
Israel14 Posts
August 09 2013 07:19 GMT
#363
so sad. no more LG stuff for me until they fix this mess up.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 09 2013 07:21 GMT
#364
On August 09 2013 15:57 titan55 wrote:
Dude, guys I feel like this issue is simple but more to what the OP posted.

My Speculation is that Kespa and IM is pressuring LG to sponsor IM full on Kespa style so they can integrate IM into Proleague. Every Kespa team is sponsored by somone big named (team 8 counts!) and with the departure of EG-TL they need a team that has a sponsorship big enough for kespa style.

LG probably was happy with sponsoring IM while it was at esF but Kespa demands a lot more from sponsors. That's probably why LG is pulling out and IM-Kespa is going all in.

I think that's a ton of very empty speculation.

EGTL pulling out makes it so that we're missing a team, but it looks like you didn't quite read the OP or understand the situation. LG hasn't paid IM any money when their contract didn't work well in December 2012. EGTL didn't pull out until recently. Granted they didn't show the best results, but there was never really a huge incentive for LGIM to join the SPL anyway since they don't seem to be a team that worries too much about team results.
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UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
August 09 2013 07:29 GMT
#365
On August 09 2013 15:57 titan55 wrote:
Every Kespa team is sponsored by somone big named (team 8 counts!)


Well it's Jin Air now anyway.
Darkstar_X
Profile Joined May 2010
United States197 Posts
August 09 2013 11:54 GMT
#366
All these people threatening to no longer buy LG products is doing more harm than good. Future sponsors would never want to support something that will get them so much negative press while being shaken down for money that wasn't even contracted.
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
August 09 2013 12:02 GMT
#367
On August 09 2013 20:54 Darkstar_X wrote:
All these people threatening to no longer buy LG products is doing more harm than good. Future sponsors would never want to support something that will get them so much negative press while being shaken down for money that wasn't even contracted.


still, I'll not buy any lg product again.
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thefrol
Profile Joined July 2012
Russian Federation30 Posts
August 09 2013 12:36 GMT
#368
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DeCoder
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland236 Posts
August 09 2013 13:25 GMT
#369
As much as this sucks for IM, it's essentially their own fault. If you don't have a contract with the sponsor, then you don't have a sponsor. If they turned down other offers in favor of an unconfirmed sponsor they have no one else to blame but themselves. It's also LG's fault for not telling IM to stop honoring a non-existent contract.
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
August 09 2013 14:06 GMT
#370
On August 09 2013 20:54 Darkstar_X wrote:
All these people threatening to no longer buy LG products is doing more harm than good. Future sponsors would never want to support something that will get them so much negative press while being shaken down for money that wasn't even contracted.


This seems very true for e-sports, not much buying power from young people, but pitchforks are very strong from them.
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Like a Boss
Profile Joined January 2011
502 Posts
August 09 2013 17:54 GMT
#371
How in the world did IM allow this to get drag out for so long? The day that your contract ends is the day you stop representing LG. Out of common sense, aren't you suppose to get re-sponsorship confirmation from sponsors ahead of time, that way you have time to look for other sponsors if they decline. In this case IM is asking for drama when it could have been easily avoided.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28529 Posts
August 09 2013 17:58 GMT
#372
On August 09 2013 23:06 edgeOut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 20:54 Darkstar_X wrote:
All these people threatening to no longer buy LG products is doing more harm than good. Future sponsors would never want to support something that will get them so much negative press while being shaken down for money that wasn't even contracted.


This seems very true for e-sports, not much buying power from young people, but pitchforks are very strong from them.

Maybe a pitchfork manufacturer could step in?
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izlong
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Singapore108 Posts
August 09 2013 20:14 GMT
#373
On August 10 2013 02:54 Like a Boss wrote:
How in the world did IM allow this to get drag out for so long? The day that your contract ends is the day you stop representing LG. Out of common sense, aren't you suppose to get re-sponsorship confirmation from sponsors ahead of time, that way you have time to look for other sponsors if they decline. In this case IM is asking for drama when it could have been easily avoided.


Given how long it took T8 to find a sponsor, I doubt that IM could find one so easily too. I can't say just how hard they tried to "easily avoid" it, but I'm just guessing it wasn't that easy. And if IM straight up stops representing LG the moment the contract ends, it would be like rudely shutting the door on a possible opportunity for a re-extension. Not something you want to do in a negotiation phase with no backup plan. They were probably "hoping for the best", and it just didn't turn out right.
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looknohands119
Profile Joined March 2010
United States815 Posts
August 09 2013 20:25 GMT
#374
Hmmm.... I wonder what the laws regarding bad faith contracts and fiduciary duty are like in Korea...
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chaos021
Profile Joined March 2012
United States258 Posts
August 10 2013 08:50 GMT
#375
Not everyday we get to grab our pitchforks to lynch a potential esports sponsor.

I'm seriously beginning to wonder why this sort of head-scratching stuff seems to be more common amongst eSF teams than KeSPa teams. Even though Team 8 has been looking for a sponsor for a while, I never heard of them struggling like this. Is team management just better under KeSPa?
neverlose9999
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada21 Posts
August 10 2013 09:56 GMT
#376
It is a time to buy some SAMSUNG products !
Estancia
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)335 Posts
August 10 2013 13:27 GMT
#377
On August 10 2013 17:50 chaos021 wrote:
Not everyday we get to grab our pitchforks to lynch a potential esports sponsor.

I'm seriously beginning to wonder why this sort of head-scratching stuff seems to be more common amongst eSF teams than KeSPa teams. Even though Team 8 has been looking for a sponsor for a while, I never heard of them struggling like this. Is team management just better under KeSPa?


You have to remember that KeSPa is a government body while eSF isn't. So I believe that being in a government body with much more strict regulations, it will be harder for this kind of stuff to happen.
I just hope that KeSPA and eSF can join force later on. I know its hard, but it is better for the SCII scene for them to combine.
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
August 10 2013 13:39 GMT
#378
On August 10 2013 05:14 izlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 02:54 Like a Boss wrote:
How in the world did IM allow this to get drag out for so long? The day that your contract ends is the day you stop representing LG. Out of common sense, aren't you suppose to get re-sponsorship confirmation from sponsors ahead of time, that way you have time to look for other sponsors if they decline. In this case IM is asking for drama when it could have been easily avoided.


Given how long it took T8 to find a sponsor, I doubt that IM could find one so easily too. I can't say just how hard they tried to "easily avoid" it, but I'm just guessing it wasn't that easy. And if IM straight up stops representing LG the moment the contract ends, it would be like rudely shutting the door on a possible opportunity for a re-extension. Not something you want to do in a negotiation phase with no backup plan. They were probably "hoping for the best", and it just didn't turn out right.

You can't compare T8 and IM really.
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chaos021
Profile Joined March 2012
United States258 Posts
August 11 2013 05:06 GMT
#379
On August 10 2013 22:27 Estancia wrote:
You have to remember that KeSPa is a government body while eSF isn't. So I believe that being in a government body with much more strict regulations, it will be harder for this kind of stuff to happen.
I just hope that KeSPA and eSF can join force later on. I know its hard, but it is better for the SCII scene for them to combine.


I thought KeSPa was run by very large corporations that are ubiquitous in Korean society? I'm sure such corporations would have major ties to government, but I didn't think it was run by government.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 05:34:21
August 11 2013 05:34 GMT
#380
1st wtf moment: LG doesn't pay up
2nd wtf moment: IM still represents LG's logo despite no payment
3rd and biggest wtf moment: KeSPA defends an ESF team

Anyway, I hope things get good for IM.
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