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KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
August 08 2013 19:01 GMT
#321
On August 09 2013 03:52 Gamegene wrote:
why do people constantly berate kespa and treat the organization as a bad thing. besides their strict rules they're a mostly OK organization -_-

Because they only see stuff like the embargo against eSF-teams and silly DQ's and not the fact that they've kept the entire Korean esports industry going for 10+ years.
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Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
August 08 2013 19:03 GMT
#322
Hopefully with KeSPA pressure, LG will properly compensate IM... or even better, renew their sponsorship for real.

Seriously, at this moment in time, can you think of any other team in the world that deserves this sponsorship more than IM? Guys, do you remember how LG started supporting IM back in February of 2012? Then immediately afterwards, Mvp won GSL? Then straight after that, Seed won GSL? Then IM won IPL TAC 3? First took second at MLG Summer. YongHwa took second at HSC, then won WCG KR. IM placed second in IPTL... twice. First won IEM, then Mvp won IEM. Mvp placed second in GSL... making it his 6th finals! IM won the preliminary GSTL. HotS came out and IM took 1st-4th at IEM (YoDa, First, YongHwa, Mvp). Mvp won WCS EU. IM just won GSTL again!

How can you argue with results like those?
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 08 2013 19:06 GMT
#323
On August 09 2013 04:01 KvltMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 03:52 Gamegene wrote:
why do people constantly berate kespa and treat the organization as a bad thing. besides their strict rules they're a mostly OK organization -_-

Because they only see stuff like the embargo against eSF-teams and silly DQ's and not the fact that they've kept the entire Korean esports industry going for 10+ years.


People weren't exactly praising KeSPA back in BW either, though, and I seem to recall reading that the Korean netizens aren't huge fans of the organisation either. Of course they're doing (and have been for a while) the scene a lot of good, but that doesn't mean people aren't allowed to call them out when they do stupid shit like they often do.
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testthewest
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany274 Posts
August 08 2013 19:06 GMT
#324
Wow, what a shame for a company as big a LG.
Can't they be honorable when there is less money on the line then their CEO is probably getting in a week??
War is not about who is right, but who is left.
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
August 08 2013 19:09 GMT
#325
On August 09 2013 03:37 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 03:31 esdf wrote:
shouldn't it be ESF's responsibility to take care of it's teams?

anyway, go kespa!

eSF has no leverage.

(Maybe IM got annoyed at eSF for foisting Tassadar on them and decided to run to KeSPA instead after that incident, hehhhh. )

You don't run to kespa. You have to have major corporation behind to join kespa which even stx and wjs is struggled now.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
August 08 2013 19:10 GMT
#326
You guys come on, you all misunderstood the relationship!

LG wasn't sponsoring IM, IM was sponsoring LG!
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 19:17:54
August 08 2013 19:14 GMT
#327
On August 09 2013 04:00 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 03:52 babylon wrote:
On August 09 2013 03:48 Dodgin wrote:
On August 09 2013 03:30 babylon wrote:
On August 09 2013 03:26 Dodgin wrote:
On August 09 2013 03:24 babylon wrote:
On August 09 2013 03:20 DidYuhim wrote:
On August 09 2013 03:15 Arceus wrote:
On August 09 2013 02:56 Porishan wrote:
On August 09 2013 02:40 ES.Genie wrote:
[quote]
No it means an organisation of Korean government that is meant to protect Korean e-sport teams from thing like this, is actually doing its job.

keSPA didn't help on TSL, Slayers, NSHS, oGs

It's funny how theres an organization supposedly created for that very purpose but it ended up spreading lies, bullying teams and now doing one single task of publishing rosters list

KeSPA is trying to get the OGN LOL going.

Since LGIM is one of their big teams there, they kinda want to spread their protectorate.

I thought IM's LoL team was pretty bad.

Well, we know what this means: if IM doesn't get a good sponsor, and this entire thing falls through, they're gonna be cherry-picked by KeSPA once the trade-agreement ends.


I think kespa would rather work with IM than take the players, they need more teams.

Don't you need like a sizeable deposit to participate in PL? Even if KeSPA wants IM in PL, if IM doesn't have the money to make it there, then there's only so much KeSPA can do to pave the road. :/


It's a security deposit, to make sure teams don't drop mid season. It's possible that Kespa can change the rules if they really want more teams in PL.

Do the teams get that deposit back at the end of the season?


Yes, they get it back in full.

:O

You learn something new every day! Thanks.

On August 09 2013 04:09 Baroninthetree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 03:37 babylon wrote:
On August 09 2013 03:31 esdf wrote:
shouldn't it be ESF's responsibility to take care of it's teams?

anyway, go kespa!

eSF has no leverage.

(Maybe IM got annoyed at eSF for foisting Tassadar on them and decided to run to KeSPA instead after that incident, hehhhh. )

You don't run to kespa. You have to have major corporation behind to join kespa which even stx and wjs is struggled now.

I didn't mean "run to KeSPA" as in "join KeSPA." I meant "run to KeSPA" as in "complain to KeSPA, because they're much better at leveraging their position than eSF." The Tassadar comment was obviously a joke.
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
August 08 2013 19:21 GMT
#328
On August 09 2013 04:06 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:01 KvltMan wrote:
On August 09 2013 03:52 Gamegene wrote:
why do people constantly berate kespa and treat the organization as a bad thing. besides their strict rules they're a mostly OK organization -_-

Because they only see stuff like the embargo against eSF-teams and silly DQ's and not the fact that they've kept the entire Korean esports industry going for 10+ years.


People weren't exactly praising KeSPA back in BW either, though, and I seem to recall reading that the Korean netizens aren't huge fans of the organisation either. Of course they're doing (and have been for a while) the scene a lot of good, but that doesn't mean people aren't allowed to call them out when they do stupid shit like they often do.

The question may be. What is a stupid thing?
When they do something, you can call it a stupid thing.
But for then it really is?
In the long term, their decisions are stupid or good?
In the end, their decisions make the games better or worse, make the players earn more or less money?

BTW, idk the answer.
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
August 08 2013 19:22 GMT
#329
On August 09 2013 04:03 Entirety wrote:
Hopefully with KeSPA pressure, LG will properly compensate IM... or even better, renew their sponsorship for real.

Seriously, at this moment in time, can you think of any other team in the world that deserves this sponsorship more than IM? Guys, do you remember how LG started supporting IM back in February of 2012? Then immediately afterwards, Mvp won GSL? Then straight after that, Seed won GSL? Then IM won IPL TAC 3? First took second at MLG Summer. YongHwa took second at HSC, then won WCG KR. IM placed second in IPTL... twice. First won IEM, then Mvp won IEM. Mvp placed second in GSL... making it his 6th finals! IM won the preliminary GSTL. HotS came out and IM took 1st-4th at IEM (YoDa, First, YongHwa, Mvp). Mvp won WCS EU. IM just won GSTL again!

How can you argue with results like those?


wow this is like every IM fanboy's argument to anyone insinuating that they are not the greatest team ever lol.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17729 Posts
August 08 2013 19:32 GMT
#330
On August 09 2013 04:03 Entirety wrote:
Hopefully with KeSPA pressure, LG will properly compensate IM... or even better, renew their sponsorship for real.

Seriously, at this moment in time, can you think of any other team in the world that deserves this sponsorship more than IM? Guys, do you remember how LG started supporting IM back in February of 2012? Then immediately afterwards, Mvp won GSL? Then straight after that, Seed won GSL? Then IM won IPL TAC 3? First took second at MLG Summer. YongHwa took second at HSC, then won WCG KR. IM placed second in IPTL... twice. First won IEM, then Mvp won IEM. Mvp placed second in GSL... making it his 6th finals! IM won the preliminary GSTL. HotS came out and IM took 1st-4th at IEM (YoDa, First, YongHwa, Mvp). Mvp won WCS EU. IM just won GSTL again!

How can you argue with results like those?

lol, what a ridiculously good list of results
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Srontgorrth
Profile Joined August 2012
United States204 Posts
August 08 2013 19:34 GMT
#331
dang, seems like a dirty situation. good that kespa has IM's back! let's hope they get their money and their title sponsor back
"i think that message boards were created so that shy people could be assholes"
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
August 08 2013 19:40 GMT
#332
On August 09 2013 04:03 Entirety wrote:
Hopefully with KeSPA pressure, LG will properly compensate IM... or even better, renew their sponsorship for real.

Seriously, at this moment in time, can you think of any other team in the world that deserves this sponsorship more than IM? Guys, do you remember how LG started supporting IM back in February of 2012? Then immediately afterwards, Mvp won GSL? Then straight after that, Seed won GSL? Then IM won IPL TAC 3? First took second at MLG Summer. YongHwa took second at HSC, then won WCG KR. IM placed second in IPTL... twice. First won IEM, then Mvp won IEM. Mvp placed second in GSL... making it his 6th finals! IM won the preliminary GSTL. HotS came out and IM took 1st-4th at IEM (YoDa, First, YongHwa, Mvp). Mvp won WCS EU. IM just won GSTL again!

How can you argue with results like those?

not to belittle IM, which is a great team, but the results werent sufficient for LG's purposes. no one else's opinion really matters.
ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
August 08 2013 19:43 GMT
#333
hmm if this gets all cleared up. see you IM at proleague :D

why else would Kespa get involve? right? :D
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edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
August 08 2013 19:45 GMT
#334
On August 09 2013 04:43 ChoDing wrote:
hmm if this gets all cleared up. see you IM at proleague :D

why else would Kespa get involve? right? :D


They are in LoL proleague for sure, but SC2 proleague who knows.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
August 08 2013 19:45 GMT
#335
Now that they went public with this I guess big companies won't be as thrilled to sponsor starcraft teams in korea.
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
August 08 2013 19:46 GMT
#336
so these guys were playing for no money ? How the f**k did they put up results like that ? ^^
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tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
August 08 2013 19:49 GMT
#337
On August 09 2013 04:40 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:03 Entirety wrote:
Hopefully with KeSPA pressure, LG will properly compensate IM... or even better, renew their sponsorship for real.

Seriously, at this moment in time, can you think of any other team in the world that deserves this sponsorship more than IM? Guys, do you remember how LG started supporting IM back in February of 2012? Then immediately afterwards, Mvp won GSL? Then straight after that, Seed won GSL? Then IM won IPL TAC 3? First took second at MLG Summer. YongHwa took second at HSC, then won WCG KR. IM placed second in IPTL... twice. First won IEM, then Mvp won IEM. Mvp placed second in GSL... making it his 6th finals! IM won the preliminary GSTL. HotS came out and IM took 1st-4th at IEM (YoDa, First, YongHwa, Mvp). Mvp won WCS EU. IM just won GSTL again!

How can you argue with results like those?

not to belittle IM, which is a great team, but the results werent sufficient for LG's purposes. no one else's opinion really matters.

Well, it might be more than just the results. Maybe they wanted more sales and marketing of their brand than they got?
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10705 Posts
August 08 2013 19:53 GMT
#338
Um....Wow very surprising, I really hope that LG ends up paying IM which I am sure they will, as LG is a really big company, if they don't pay then this could be very bad for ESPORTS ... T_T
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 08 2013 19:54 GMT
#339
On August 09 2013 04:53 GGzerG wrote:
Um....Wow very surprising, I really hope that LG ends up paying IM which I am sure they will, as LG is a really big company, if they don't pay then this could be very bad for ESPORTS ... T_T


I think Kespa definitely has the power to make them pay damages, continuing sponsorship afterwards is an entirely different thing, I want to be positive but I doubt they will renew the sponsorship.
Genpow
Profile Joined November 2010
United States41 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 21:09:33
August 08 2013 21:06 GMT
#340
Makes me wanna return my LG-Dishwasher LG-Microwave and LG-Dryer I just bought.

Stop hurting esports LG ^^
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