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EvanC
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada130 Posts
August 04 2013 19:19 GMT
#21
Shouldn't Artosis' team/sponsor be tt-esports?
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
August 04 2013 19:23 GMT
#22
world cup in football got a billion viewers; tennis is dead
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Sombre
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom86 Posts
August 04 2013 19:28 GMT
#23
How long till Naniwa sees that Artosis is higher than him and starts moaning?
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
August 04 2013 19:33 GMT
#24
The WCS graphs for Korea are almost random numbers, if you count only Twitch, because sometimes gomtv.net has more viewers than the Twitch stream. I would also hypothetise that it is difficult to even use it even as a trend indicator - even people who would prefer the OGN casters will sometimes find Twitch stream useless and will look for alternatives, so as long as there is any alternative stream to switch to, any Twitch-based statistics is, more "how much did Twitch break today" than anything else.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
August 04 2013 19:44 GMT
#25
PL finals delivers! And glad to see OSL going strong. Sometimes you get the impression people think these new EU/AM leagues are more important but the numbers assure you Korea is still the best.
maru G5L pls
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 19:44:54
August 04 2013 19:44 GMT
#26
On August 05 2013 04:23 nkr wrote:
world cup in football got a billion viewers; tennis is dead

haha wow, ya, means everything else is dead too XD

Love the graphs! Great OP! Love all the details as well
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
August 04 2013 19:46 GMT
#27
On August 05 2013 04:33 opisska wrote:
The WCS graphs for Korea are almost random numbers, if you count only Twitch, because sometimes gomtv.net has more viewers than the Twitch stream. I would also hypothetise that it is difficult to even use it even as a trend indicator - even people who would prefer the OGN casters will sometimes find Twitch stream useless and will look for alternatives, so as long as there is any alternative stream to switch to, any Twitch-based statistics is, more "how much did Twitch break today" than anything else.

Mostly yes. For the most part, it is not an answer to the question of "How many people watch WCS KR?", but "How many foreigners watch WCS KR?", and that only works when you compare those numbers to previous WCS KR numbers, instead of looking at them as absolute numbers. That's why my disclaimer about those numbers is so large.
IcookTacos
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden295 Posts
August 04 2013 19:57 GMT
#28
Tasteless did stream some SC2 like a month back or so. He was playing the Hots campaign for a while.
Life | Ryung | Mvp | MarineKing | Jaedong | Bisu | HerO
nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
August 04 2013 19:57 GMT
#29
Again and again thanks for your work and again I must tell you that only the V*H one is important

Say Innovation starts streaming for 5 hours in a day, gets 20k viewers and then doesn't stream at all. Continues this process all months, so he'll always be there #1 on the list, but I still wouldn't consider him worthy.

You should make a top 100 V*H and and provide a top 50 only for viewers just for the averages, perhaps just give the link to the html page or something. I, personally, and don't take this as something I urge you to do (O_o), think only V*H is important.

"Having your own haters means you are famous"
tritonice
Profile Joined November 2010
United States119 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 20:04:55
August 04 2013 20:04 GMT
#30
Artosis is sponsored by TT esports, but I don't know if that really matters (prob to HIM!). Congrats to MsSpyte! I just recently started watching. She definitely deserves her featured spot. Congrats DeMusliM. Lots of hard work, there, too!!!

Maybe a "quality poster" star for our OP, TL?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 04 2013 20:04 GMT
#31
On August 05 2013 03:54 skiersteve wrote:
Pretty depressing, even twitch now sc2 is at 6th, behind dota,lol,wow,eve and magic the gathering lmao


This is not true, SC2 is 3rd, unchanged behind LoL and Dota.

http://blog.twitch.tv/2013/08/top-twitch-games-for-july-2013/
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 04 2013 20:06 GMT
#32
On August 05 2013 05:04 tritonice wrote:
Artosis is sponsored by TT esports, but I don't know if that really matters (prob to HIM!). Congrats to MsSpyte! I just recently started watching. She definitely deserves her featured spot. Congrats DeMusliM. Lots of hard work, there, too!!!

Maybe a "quality poster" star for our OP, TL?


I think it matters for his stream, he always mentions them on stream and says they are the reason he can play and stream so much.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
August 04 2013 20:21 GMT
#33
People really need to update what game they are playing on twitch.tv I see really good players playing HotS under WoL. They could have more viewers.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
August 04 2013 20:23 GMT
#34
If someone (not me I have things to do) were to do a meta-analysis of the SC2 stream #s graphs, I wonder what kind of trend they would find? Would it be the beginning of the end of the well-oiled machinery that is eSportS?
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
August 04 2013 20:33 GMT
#35
On August 05 2013 05:06 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 05:04 tritonice wrote:
Artosis is sponsored by TT esports, but I don't know if that really matters (prob to HIM!). Congrats to MsSpyte! I just recently started watching. She definitely deserves her featured spot. Congrats DeMusliM. Lots of hard work, there, too!!!

Maybe a "quality poster" star for our OP, TL?


I think it matters for his stream, he always mentions them on stream and says they are the reason he can play and stream so much.

I'll happily change it to TT esports if that's what Artosis would prefer. For now I'm holding off because I'm a silly person, and I like The Casting Archon team.
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
August 04 2013 20:52 GMT
#36
Wooooo, ATC included, nice!
MatiaasS !
Profile Joined October 2011
Chile167 Posts
August 04 2013 21:00 GMT
#37
On August 05 2013 00:55 iNcontroL wrote:
I had a nice peak this month .. was pretty proud of that I plan on streaming even more in this month of August.. so look to see if I can keep my word!

congrats to demuslim <3

You are the man iNcontroL ♥

Team EG, TL and IM ! || Tennis For Life ♥ RF ♥
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
August 04 2013 21:02 GMT
#38
On August 05 2013 04:07 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 01:50 avilo wrote:
The average viewers must not be max concurrents? Because i'm hitting 400 quite often..is the average based on the average of every day of the entire month?

If so that would make sense, because if you don't stream a few days that adds a day average of 0 for that day massively bringing down your "average" for the month -_- which is not representative of the actual concurrent viewers being hit.

Not quite.

The average is based on every time you stream, based on 15 minute intervals. So when you do not stream your numbers are not affected at all.

However, the "average" numbers are usually lower than one would expect. You, like every other streamer, starts his stream with 0 viewers, and you (like every other streamer) slowly work yourself to your "actual" average. That is, that steady number of viewers you get eventually and that doesn't change all that much. Let's say that in your case that's about 400. So it feels like your average is 400. Why does the data say the actual average is 300? It's simply because of that early phase when you start streaming, and you have 0 viewers. 15 minutes later you have 30, perhaps. Then 100. Then 150, and so on. All that drags the actual average down.

It might sound kind of unfair, but then again, this is true for every streamer, so everyone has exactly the same disadvantage.


Ok, good to know the metrics here thanks.
Sup
VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 21:12:38
August 04 2013 21:06 GMT
#39
Oh, not surprised by these at all..

Had the impressions that like 50% of the viewership of SC2 comes from Europe.. Wasn't wrong as much lol.. But yah - WCS EU kicked some serious ass.. WCS KR was streamed at bad hours (at least for me) - while at work..

Also - not surprised to see MsSpyte in the top20, fell in love with that girl the first time tuned in, and she also interacts with (as long as the chat makes sense) the viewers..
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
August 04 2013 21:15 GMT
#40
I streamed 20hours more and went down 1 rank D: So hard to compete with progamers and people that get featured on the twitch front page like incontrol/myspyte. Props to them tho for entertaining that audience. Thanks Conti for this thread as always <3
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