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pwnageoftheyear
Profile Joined September 2012
United States64 Posts
July 27 2013 05:50 GMT
#81
JACKPOT!
eventually, we all must learn when to shut the f*** up
HeyImFinn
Profile Joined September 2011
United States250 Posts
July 27 2013 06:09 GMT
#82
On July 27 2013 08:37 LOcDowN wrote:
What's the # hotkey setup for him? Anyone got it listed out?


1 and 2 for units
3 for rax
4 for factories
5 for Starports
6 through 0 are individual Command Centers.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
July 27 2013 06:18 GMT
#83
His keyboard is sick for sure, and so is his play, thanks for the vid Khaldor!
User was warned for too many mimes.
Amira
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany149 Posts
July 27 2013 06:36 GMT
#84
OT:

Look at the players that he recorded besides Innovation (Pls don't open the spoiler tag, because you might get a heart attack)
+ Show Spoiler +

Bomber
Flash
herO
Rain
sOs
Life




Omg!! :O Khaldor rocks
Madder
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia427 Posts
July 27 2013 06:38 GMT
#85
On July 27 2013 15:36 Amira wrote:
OT:

Look at the players that he recorded besides Innovation (Pls don't open the spoiler tag, because you might get a heart attack)
+ Show Spoiler +

Bomber
Flash
herO
Rain
sOs
Life


https://twitter.com/Khaldor/status/361006758740770817

Omg!! :O Khaldor rocks

Wow..

KHALDOOOOR!
SirFatalx
Profile Joined August 2010
United States22 Posts
July 27 2013 07:17 GMT
#86
On July 27 2013 02:50 halim42 wrote:
he use 800 dpi 2 red light on g9x=800 dpi but sc2 % i don't know


This may be true but keep in mind you can also set the DPI changes on the mouse because of the on board memory options.
hhS
Profile Joined March 2012
Chile33 Posts
July 27 2013 08:05 GMT
#87
nice video, thx!
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
July 27 2013 08:12 GMT
#88
On July 27 2013 08:41 TheFlexN wrote:
I find it strange that he has hotkeys really far to the right of the keyboard and he didnt put them on the left side, closer to his controll groups. Also, I am sure that I see him clicking with his thumb too, thats really wierd.
Now dont take what I say to the wrong place but I think that innovation has weaker micro when he is compared to other korean terran player in his caliber. I think he is the better macro player, probably the player that has the best macro when it comes to terran, or sc2 in general, but when watching his games on the streams, he wasnt as active with his forces as others are, his marine splits and storm dodging looks, to me at least, not as good as others players micro movements, I guess its because he has less experience when it comes to the "oh shit" moments in tournaments, but I do think that this can and might be a weakness that can be exploited by other players.

how is that weird at all
he was a bw pro, and it was really normal to do that for them (using 1-0 like that) (especially since you can't do custom keybinds there)
and then he switches to sc2 after he's used to bw, obviously he'll do settings to what he's used to (which helps with his muscle memories)

reading through the whole quote.... really are you forgetting he was a kespa bw pro? o0
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
July 27 2013 08:36 GMT
#89
What a boss! Ty for this amazing video
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
TheFlexN
Profile Joined March 2012
Israel472 Posts
July 27 2013 08:54 GMT
#90
On July 27 2013 17:12 zhurai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 08:41 TheFlexN wrote:
I find it strange that he has hotkeys really far to the right of the keyboard and he didnt put them on the left side, closer to his controll groups. Also, I am sure that I see him clicking with his thumb too, thats really wierd.
Now dont take what I say to the wrong place but I think that innovation has weaker micro when he is compared to other korean terran player in his caliber. I think he is the better macro player, probably the player that has the best macro when it comes to terran, or sc2 in general, but when watching his games on the streams, he wasnt as active with his forces as others are, his marine splits and storm dodging looks, to me at least, not as good as others players micro movements, I guess its because he has less experience when it comes to the "oh shit" moments in tournaments, but I do think that this can and might be a weakness that can be exploited by other players.

how is that weird at all
he was a bw pro, and it was really normal to do that for them (using 1-0 like that) (especially since you can't do custom keybinds there)
and then he switches to sc2 after he's used to bw, obviously he'll do settings to what he's used to (which helps with his muscle memories)

reading through the whole quote.... really are you forgetting he was a kespa bw pro? o0

I know he played BW, I was sure BW pros would change hotkeys and get used to knew ones because now they can change it to something that is more comftable.
An Esports fan, playing SC2 and LoL because they are fun. Huge fan of mapmaking, Cloud Kingdom = best map ever made EVER.
gh0un
Profile Joined March 2011
601 Posts
July 27 2013 09:51 GMT
#91
Pretty boring vid.
Raambo11
Profile Joined April 2011
United States828 Posts
July 27 2013 10:10 GMT
#92
His APM is insane at the end during that battle
Syn Harvest
Profile Joined July 2012
United States191 Posts
July 27 2013 10:14 GMT
#93
On July 27 2013 15:09 HeyImFinn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 08:37 LOcDowN wrote:
What's the # hotkey setup for him? Anyone got it listed out?


1 and 2 for units
3 for rax
4 for factories
5 for Starports
6 through 0 are individual Command Centers.


This is pretty much what I was thinking. He does have a control group for all his command centers though he hit is quite a few times. He was on the left side of the keyboard I assume he rebound 0 or something to W probably but thats just a guess.

Also he had certain buildings hotkeyed at times. the ghost academy, ebays and armory to be certain. I couldn't figure out which key it was though because he only used it a hanful of times.
Open your heart and embrace the darkness
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
July 27 2013 10:44 GMT
#94
On July 27 2013 17:54 TheFlexN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 17:12 zhurai wrote:
On July 27 2013 08:41 TheFlexN wrote:
I find it strange that he has hotkeys really far to the right of the keyboard and he didnt put them on the left side, closer to his controll groups. Also, I am sure that I see him clicking with his thumb too, thats really wierd.
Now dont take what I say to the wrong place but I think that innovation has weaker micro when he is compared to other korean terran player in his caliber. I think he is the better macro player, probably the player that has the best macro when it comes to terran, or sc2 in general, but when watching his games on the streams, he wasnt as active with his forces as others are, his marine splits and storm dodging looks, to me at least, not as good as others players micro movements, I guess its because he has less experience when it comes to the "oh shit" moments in tournaments, but I do think that this can and might be a weakness that can be exploited by other players.

how is that weird at all
he was a bw pro, and it was really normal to do that for them (using 1-0 like that) (especially since you can't do custom keybinds there)
and then he switches to sc2 after he's used to bw, obviously he'll do settings to what he's used to (which helps with his muscle memories)

reading through the whole quote.... really are you forgetting he was a kespa bw pro? o0

I know he played BW, I was sure BW pros would change hotkeys and get used to knew ones because now they can change it to something that is more comftable.



his point is that it is more comfortable that way.
i've done the same for the last 3 years of sc2 having heavy use of 6-0
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shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
July 27 2013 10:44 GMT
#95
Bisu FPVOD would be coool :>
AKMU / IU
reps)Defi
Profile Joined September 2007
Russian Federation337 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-27 12:29:44
July 27 2013 11:00 GMT
#96
hi, great video, thx!

if he has only 2 hotkeys for units, how he controls mmm + vikings + ghost in the late tvp?
using vikings in the same hotkey with mmm?
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
July 27 2013 11:14 GMT
#97
Haha that smirk at the end when Khaldor says "Good job."
Like, "who do you think I am?"
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
July 27 2013 11:24 GMT
#98
On July 27 2013 17:54 TheFlexN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 17:12 zhurai wrote:
On July 27 2013 08:41 TheFlexN wrote:
I find it strange that he has hotkeys really far to the right of the keyboard and he didnt put them on the left side, closer to his controll groups. Also, I am sure that I see him clicking with his thumb too, thats really wierd.
Now dont take what I say to the wrong place but I think that innovation has weaker micro when he is compared to other korean terran player in his caliber. I think he is the better macro player, probably the player that has the best macro when it comes to terran, or sc2 in general, but when watching his games on the streams, he wasnt as active with his forces as others are, his marine splits and storm dodging looks, to me at least, not as good as others players micro movements, I guess its because he has less experience when it comes to the "oh shit" moments in tournaments, but I do think that this can and might be a weakness that can be exploited by other players.

how is that weird at all
he was a bw pro, and it was really normal to do that for them (using 1-0 like that) (especially since you can't do custom keybinds there)
and then he switches to sc2 after he's used to bw, obviously he'll do settings to what he's used to (which helps with his muscle memories)

reading through the whole quote.... really are you forgetting he was a kespa bw pro? o0

I know he played BW, I was sure BW pros would change hotkeys and get used to knew ones because now they can change it to something that is more comftable.


What is most comfortable is probably similar to what he's been practicing for x amount of years as a BW pro. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, as in if he was able to use those "uncomfortable" key bindings and reach the level of a pro BW player, I'm sure it's not seriously hindering his gameplay or skill which is what they are most concerned with.
TheFlexN
Profile Joined March 2012
Israel472 Posts
July 27 2013 13:01 GMT
#99
On July 27 2013 20:24 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 17:54 TheFlexN wrote:
On July 27 2013 17:12 zhurai wrote:
On July 27 2013 08:41 TheFlexN wrote:
I find it strange that he has hotkeys really far to the right of the keyboard and he didnt put them on the left side, closer to his controll groups. Also, I am sure that I see him clicking with his thumb too, thats really wierd.
Now dont take what I say to the wrong place but I think that innovation has weaker micro when he is compared to other korean terran player in his caliber. I think he is the better macro player, probably the player that has the best macro when it comes to terran, or sc2 in general, but when watching his games on the streams, he wasnt as active with his forces as others are, his marine splits and storm dodging looks, to me at least, not as good as others players micro movements, I guess its because he has less experience when it comes to the "oh shit" moments in tournaments, but I do think that this can and might be a weakness that can be exploited by other players.

how is that weird at all
he was a bw pro, and it was really normal to do that for them (using 1-0 like that) (especially since you can't do custom keybinds there)
and then he switches to sc2 after he's used to bw, obviously he'll do settings to what he's used to (which helps with his muscle memories)

reading through the whole quote.... really are you forgetting he was a kespa bw pro? o0

I know he played BW, I was sure BW pros would change hotkeys and get used to knew ones because now they can change it to something that is more comftable.


What is most comfortable is probably similar to what he's been practicing for x amount of years as a BW pro. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, as in if he was able to use those "uncomfortable" key bindings and reach the level of a pro BW player, I'm sure it's not seriously hindering his gameplay or skill which is what they are most concerned with.

I guess you are right, its probably muscle memory at this point.
An Esports fan, playing SC2 and LoL because they are fun. Huge fan of mapmaking, Cloud Kingdom = best map ever made EVER.
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
July 27 2013 13:02 GMT
#100
lol,

His legs must be tired after a game. Yes his legs, just look at them god dammit !
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