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WCS Season 2 Regional League Finals Dates - Page 13

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Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
July 22 2013 22:11 GMT
#241
so sc2 ppl rlly watch dota?? i play alot of dota2 but i just cant watch it, i tried it but its rlly boring to me... cant think sc2 viewers would watch dota instead of sc2
yo
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
July 22 2013 22:11 GMT
#242
On July 23 2013 07:03 Turbulencedota wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 06:59 Plansix wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:54 schaf wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:44 AgentW wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:42 sd_andeh wrote:
Rod Breslau ‏@Slasher 1m

Blizzard informs me they will be posting an official response soon regarding the WCS/International 3 overlap.


I think Blizzard's basically going to say that this is a logistical issue that was unfortunate but necessary.


How stupid. If they didn't know beforehand (haha), they were doing a bad job. If they were knowing it, why not include that in their announcement? They can't hope noone notices it...

Why put it the first annoucement when you can just respond to the people who care? There is a large section of the SC2 community that could give 2 shits about TI3.


they should care about Dota. I'm gona tell you without Dota 2 and LoL(dota style game) starcraft wouldnt be as big as it is right now.
and NO, I will not provide you proof of that( :D ), you just have to believe me


I don't believe you. Moba games are competition. Sooner this "do it for esports" shit dies the better off we are. You can enjoy multiple games just like you can enjoy multiple sports but this kumbaya esports trite is just tiresome.
Restless-
Profile Joined May 2010
Malaysia86 Posts
July 22 2013 22:11 GMT
#243
I am mostly a DotA 2 player, but I've been following the SC2 scene ever since WoL. Even when I played less SC2 now compared to DotA 2, I still follow all the major SC2 events because it's still very interesting to watch it every now and then, and also just to show my support for e-sports in general. I really love e-sports, even if my main focus is mostly DotA 2 and SC2, I still love to watch some other games like CS:GO and I just got introduced to the fighting game community and fell in love with the competitive scene of UMvC3 and SSF4 because of EVO 2013. So, it was really nice when I get to watch all the awesome matches of different games without much overlaps.

But Blizzard, what are you thinking.. This is not how u make e-sports grow. It's kinda like they really want to play this childish game with this kind of schedule. They were the one who didn't want to give full support to DotA back then in Warcraft III. Now that they realized DotA 2 is freaking huge, they want to try to compete for viewerships? Didn't they know that it will only make them look bad in the end when they lose viewers due to this? I seriously think that there's nothing for Blizzard to gain for such scheduling, so I don't see any other reasons as to why they would want to stick with the dates.

Why are you killing e-sports blizzard? Why... I really wanna watch both but if Blizzard still sticks to their plan I guess I have to forego WCS and just focus on TI3, as that's like a big wrap to the DotA 2 scene for the year, been waiting it for like ages. And the games are pretty long, and much more intense when it gets to the later stages of the playoffs, so might not have time to switch around to WCS. Not to mention, twitch would definitely get overloaded with this. At least I could watch the DotA 2 matches from inside the game client itself.

Hopefully twitch would do something about it at the very least..
Huh?
fenrysk
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States364 Posts
July 22 2013 22:14 GMT
#244
sucks for Twitch. i hope Gunrun and the team is planning ahead to scale for all this. As for the back to back EU and AM finals, i'll be out of town so i'll have the luxury of reading about it on Liquipedia from my phone (can't afford the bandwidth to stream it all to my phone lol).
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Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 22:16:40
July 22 2013 22:15 GMT
#245
On July 23 2013 07:11 Eury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 07:03 Turbulencedota wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:59 Plansix wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:54 schaf wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:44 AgentW wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:42 sd_andeh wrote:
Rod Breslau ‏@Slasher 1m

Blizzard informs me they will be posting an official response soon regarding the WCS/International 3 overlap.

https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/359427818716798977

I think Blizzard's basically going to say that this is a logistical issue that was unfortunate but necessary.


How stupid. If they didn't know beforehand (haha), they were doing a bad job. If they were knowing it, why not include that in their announcement? They can't hope noone notices it...

Why put it the first annoucement when you can just respond to the people who care? There is a large section of the SC2 community that could give 2 shits about TI3.


they should care about Dota. I'm gona tell you without Dota 2 and LoL(dota style game) starcraft wouldnt be as big as it is right now.
and NO, I will not provide you proof of that( :D ), you just have to believe me


I don't believe you. Moba games are competition. Sooner this "do it for esports" shit dies the better off we are. You can enjoy multiple games just like you can enjoy multiple sports but this kumbaya esports trite is just tiresome.

It sounds incredibly immature and sappy to me, it's not realistic either. It's not even worth saying "WATCH EVERYTHING FOR ESPORTS." People wont do that and people dont want to do that, people have preferences, that is OK. Watch what you want, stop trying to pressure people into watching shit they don't like. Dota 2 will smash SC 2 most likely in terms of numbers and LoL will smash both partly because blizzard is idiotic, and if they REALLY wanted to, they could change to a much better date. But in the end, the WCS isn't a big enough of a priority to schedule intelligently it seems, unless they have some super huge gigantic thing hamstringing them and preventing them from scheduling better. To that I say, "too bad, hope it doesnt hurt blizzard and the fans or games too much."
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 22:19:43
July 22 2013 22:18 GMT
#246
On July 23 2013 07:11 Killmouse wrote:
so sc2 ppl rlly watch dota?? i play alot of dota2 but i just cant watch it, i tried it but its rlly boring to me... cant think sc2 viewers would watch dota instead of sc2


TI3 is a $2.6mil tournament and the biggest in e-sports, with a tournament that big there is always going to be some overlap. It's like hosting wimbledon, rolland Garros and US open at the same time AND during the football world cup. It's a complete cluster fuck.
sns3rsam
Profile Joined September 2012
United States138 Posts
July 22 2013 22:23 GMT
#247
Several other people said it in this thread but I want to reiterate it a bit. BlizzCon takes place in early November and it is coming up quick. There really isn't a whole lot of time left for Blizzard. They need a Season 2 regional finals and then the Season 2 finals. After that, they need to start up season 3 and its respective regional finals and the finals. After that, they need to do the BlizzCon Finals. Not to mention other SC2 events like MLG Columbus and ASUS ROG Summer 2013. It really doesn't look like there is a whole lot of time left for Blizzard and the time they scheduled for Season 2 regional finals just happened to coincide with TI3. I watch both Dota2 and SC2 and to be honest I'm not happy with this either. But I can see why Blizzard did it. I am pretty sure that they didn't do this on purpose. As if they can think the regional finals (and they aren't even the seasonal finals) that happen 3 times a year can compete with TI3 that happens once a year lol.
"Every Terran same to me... uhhhh ezpz" -DRG // When Life gives you banelings...
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
July 22 2013 22:24 GMT
#248
RIP WCS. I'd be willing to be at least 50% of the people who usually watch SC2 also watch DOTA2 at this point.

TI3 > WCS as far as I'm concerned. The good news is that now I have WCS to fill downtime at the TI3.
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
July 22 2013 22:25 GMT
#249
Shit time placement...

I am so sad Blizzard adopts this behaviour. It looks like Kespa a lot
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 22 2013 22:28 GMT
#250
Blizzard, your stupidity is showing. So not only do you want to have the regions cannibalize viewership, but you also want to challenge TI3? Lol
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
July 22 2013 22:29 GMT
#251
On July 23 2013 07:25 fezvez wrote:
Shit time placement...

I am so sad Blizzard adopts this behaviour. It looks like Kespa a lot


The difference being that they do so while being at a massive disadvantage.
Rayeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States883 Posts
July 22 2013 22:29 GMT
#252
Well I was considering tuning in for a bit of these games, but I guess I will be stuck viewing TI3 only. Gonna have to skip WCS.
The Innocent shall suffer... big time.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
July 22 2013 22:30 GMT
#253
Who came up with this brilliant idea? Epic fucking fail. And trying to compete with TI3?! Blizzard people are crazy.

Seriously though, this is one of the worst fails I've ever seen.
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dcsoda
Profile Joined June 2011
United States583 Posts
July 22 2013 22:31 GMT
#254
Don't care one lick about Dota so this doesn't really affect me. People can just have two tabs open I'm not sure why this is getting such crap.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
July 22 2013 22:31 GMT
#255
On July 23 2013 07:28 Bagration wrote:
Blizzard, your stupidity is showing. So not only do you want to have the regions cannibalize viewership, but you also want to challenge TI3? Lol


And how much longer can they realistically delay it? The finals are in august and after that theres still an entire 3rd season to run before blizzcon in november. You also have to add in that a delay might have meant more than 1 week because the facility they want may not be available the next week.
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
July 22 2013 22:33 GMT
#256
They had like 6 months advance notice of when ti3 was going to be. That should be enough time to figure out a date that doesn't conflict with one of the biggest esports events of the year.
neurosx
Profile Joined August 2011
Luxembourg1096 Posts
July 22 2013 22:35 GMT
#257
On July 23 2013 07:14 fenrysk wrote:
sucks for Twitch. i hope Gunrun and the team is planning ahead to scale for all this. As for the back to back EU and AM finals, i'll be out of town so i'll have the luxury of reading about it on Liquipedia from my phone (can't afford the bandwidth to stream it all to my phone lol).


Gunrun is in vacation, so prepare for twitch to literally blow up. Literally.
You'll wish I'd never stooped to notice you.
KnadRa
Profile Joined July 2012
United States56 Posts
July 22 2013 22:36 GMT
#258
On July 23 2013 07:31 dcsoda wrote:
Don't care one lick about Dota so this doesn't really affect me. People can just have two tabs open I'm not sure why this is getting such crap.


I play and watch Dota 2 and I think the same thing.

If you look at when the most logical time to put the tournament at in terms of the scheduling of WCS, that weekend would be the time to do it, not to mention that in order to create the adequate duration for the next season you would need it to be on time. Its not a company's job to manage other events, they work on their own schedule.

You can watch one or the other or just watch both, but theres no need to circle jerk this out of proportion.
The diamond league destroyer
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 22:37:53
July 22 2013 22:36 GMT
#259
On July 23 2013 07:31 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 07:28 Bagration wrote:
Blizzard, your stupidity is showing. So not only do you want to have the regions cannibalize viewership, but you also want to challenge TI3? Lol


And how much longer can they realistically delay it? The finals are in august and after that theres still an entire 3rd season to run before blizzcon in november. You also have to add in that a delay might have meant more than 1 week because the facility they want may not be available the next week.


In retrospect Blizzard should have just started the first year of WCS with just 2 seasons, it would have given the guys at ESL, MLG, NASL and OGN a lot more breathing space.

edit: To answer on your point, there is not much room for Blizzard now and this will come back to bite them in the ass.
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
July 22 2013 22:37 GMT
#260
This really wouldn't be a problem if Blizzard provided a different viewing avenue other than Twich, considering what happens during large enough LoL events, I don't have high hopes for Twitch during that weekend. At least Valve provided an alternative option on viewing The International, I don't know how we're going to watch SC2 (YT is always an option though).
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