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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 10 2013 01:25 GMT
#161
It will be cool to have the finals live at Dreamhack, though.
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sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 01:28:18
July 10 2013 01:26 GMT
#162
On July 10 2013 10:24 timed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 10:22 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On July 10 2013 10:07 MajOr wrote:
On July 10 2013 10:05 EG.lectR wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:51 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:47 Musicus wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:44 MajOr wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:41 skatblast wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:37 MajOr wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:36 NovemberstOrm wrote:
[quote]
what? It's a new league.



nah aits been running for atleast 3months if not more just announced until today


well somebody is getting fired...

o wait theres nobody to fire you. Thanks for destroying any hype it had though


sure no problem i just find it disgusting when someone announces a league and try to scam their fans into thinking their games are fresh, its fine to do an event based on replays as long as the replays arent 3 months. but w.e


I love you Major! But really this lessens the value a lot, gotta love ATC being 100% live even more.

They started a league about 6 months ago and then cancelled it when we were almost half way through group stage making all the games we had played utterly pointless, and this one started a month or so ago :/


We did cancel the previous start of the SC2L, but not when the games were "almost halfway through." Teams at max had played two weeks worth of games, and the teams who had done that were only like 2-3 of the 8. We cancelled it out of respect to the teams because we realized we could not yet broadcast the games.



respect? lol is that what you people call respect to gamers? okay

I don't think it's very respectful to the fans to say 6 months when it's actually 4-5 weeks.

Whether 4-5 weeks is okay is another issue entirely, though. I'm fine with it, but apparently a lot of people aren't.

Except games were in fact played 6 months ago, but they will simply be completely ignored instead of broadcasted.

He said the replays were 6 months old, then changed that to 3 months, when apparently a few of them are from 4-5 weeks...

So basically, no he pretty much made stuff up. Either that or he's completely uninformed. And either way, it's disrespectful to the fans, imo.

from the LR thread:

On July 10 2013 10:26 EG.lectR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 10:23 geno wrote:
What about playing 2 different players twice each? Or more? This is quite confusing.

Would still like to know when these matches were played as well.

edit: Saw above answer about triple-playing.


This very first match is about 4-5 weeks old. Only one other match has been completed for the first week and it's less than two weeks old. The other half of matches are not even played yet.

So yeah, I think Major should have just kept his mouth shut.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 10 2013 01:27 GMT
#163
Can we get clarity about the format? Why are you allowed to field players twice if it's supposedly "Proleague format"?
asdfou420
Profile Joined April 2013
Korea (North)49 Posts
July 10 2013 01:27 GMT
#164
On July 10 2013 10:15 timed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 10:13 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
I'm happy about this, but I must say "Starcraft 2 League" might be the most boring, uncreative name in the history of the universe.

What about "Dota 2 League"?

the acronym d2l sounds better than sc2l
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 10 2013 01:28 GMT
#165
Please just ignore major for now >_< this is a thread discussing a team league.. you have to be on one to have proper information regarding it.

The games are a bit old (some 2 weeks one as many as 4) and that isn't great.. we aren't satisfied wit that and will do all we can to not repeat it. But as Lectr said and I agree: Making them replay those games due to OUR delays is unfair to the results. So we think this is the best balance!

Hope you all mostly agree <3
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 01:31:11
July 10 2013 01:28 GMT
#166
On July 10 2013 10:26 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 10:24 timed wrote:
On July 10 2013 10:22 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On July 10 2013 10:07 MajOr wrote:
On July 10 2013 10:05 EG.lectR wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:51 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:47 Musicus wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:44 MajOr wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:41 skatblast wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:37 MajOr wrote:
[quote]


nah aits been running for atleast 3months if not more just announced until today


well somebody is getting fired...

o wait theres nobody to fire you. Thanks for destroying any hype it had though


sure no problem i just find it disgusting when someone announces a league and try to scam their fans into thinking their games are fresh, its fine to do an event based on replays as long as the replays arent 3 months. but w.e


I love you Major! But really this lessens the value a lot, gotta love ATC being 100% live even more.

They started a league about 6 months ago and then cancelled it when we were almost half way through group stage making all the games we had played utterly pointless, and this one started a month or so ago :/


We did cancel the previous start of the SC2L, but not when the games were "almost halfway through." Teams at max had played two weeks worth of games, and the teams who had done that were only like 2-3 of the 8. We cancelled it out of respect to the teams because we realized we could not yet broadcast the games.



respect? lol is that what you people call respect to gamers? okay

I don't think it's very respectful to the fans to say 6 months when it's actually 4-5 weeks.

Whether 4-5 weeks is okay is another issue entirely, though. I'm fine with it, but apparently a lot of people aren't.

Except games were in fact played 6 months ago, but they will simply be completely ignored instead of broadcasted.

He said the replays were 6 months old, then changed that to 3 months, when apparently a few of them are from 4-5 weeks...

So basically, no he pretty much made stuff up. Either that or he's completely uninformed. And either way, it's disrespectful to the fans, imo.


It's neither.

Major knew they were playing games for this tourney 6 months ago - and they were, management confirmed that. However the games from 6 months ago were thrown out. They are not the ones being broadcasted here.

They started the tourney afresh a month ago, and so the oldest replays that are now intended to be broadcasted are a month old (4-5 weeks).
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
July 10 2013 01:30 GMT
#167
Hopefull he wont quit this, like he did with NASL.
oh, hai
chindy
Profile Joined September 2011
82 Posts
July 10 2013 01:33 GMT
#168
What is sooo difficult about playing live ... ??? look at Take somehow they manage to do it.... ATC GOGOOGOGO!!!!!!!!
Gotta love TakeTv for that
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
July 10 2013 01:35 GMT
#169
On July 10 2013 10:33 chindy wrote:
What is sooo difficult about playing live ... ??? look at Take somehow they manage to do it.... ATC GOGOOGOGO!!!!!!!!
Gotta love TakeTv for that

to be fair, ATC has it's own host of problems.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 10 2013 01:35 GMT
#170
On July 10 2013 10:33 chindy wrote:
What is sooo difficult about playing live ... ??? look at Take somehow they manage to do it.... ATC GOGOOGOGO!!!!!!!!
Gotta love TakeTv for that

The difference is that it's NA based, not EU based. ATC starts at like 7AM in America. You can't sell that time to US sponsors and it isn't really ideal to produce a huge league at 6 or 7AM local time.
Starion
Profile Joined December 2010
United States32 Posts
July 10 2013 01:37 GMT
#171
On July 10 2013 10:28 iNcontroL wrote:
Please just ignore major for now >_< this is a thread discussing a team league.. you have to be on one to have proper information regarding it.

The games are a bit old (some 2 weeks one as many as 4) and that isn't great.. we aren't satisfied wit that and will do all we can to not repeat it. But as Lectr said and I agree: Making them replay those games due to OUR delays is unfair to the results. So we think this is the best balance!

Hope you all mostly agree <3



Seems fair given the circumstances. Does that mean that, once the league gets "caught up" (or something) that the games will be played live, or with less delay, or is it going to be run...parallel to the current time frame (i.e. games will be played tomorrow, and then casted in a few weeks)?
Show me a completely smooth operation and I'll show you a cover up. Real boats rock.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
July 10 2013 01:43 GMT
#172
How will servers be chosen for maps since there are a lot of KR/EU players? Will it all be played on NA or what?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
lim1017
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1278 Posts
July 10 2013 01:44 GMT
#173
$200..bit to pricey for me

I wish this league the best of luck, as i love team leagues.

would be nice if the other sponsors could create an SC2L or esports related product for purchase to increase the prize pool as well.


I think a special mouse/keyboard, headset would be more appealing to most then a router.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 10 2013 01:44 GMT
#174
On July 10 2013 10:37 Starion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 10:28 iNcontroL wrote:
Please just ignore major for now >_< this is a thread discussing a team league.. you have to be on one to have proper information regarding it.

The games are a bit old (some 2 weeks one as many as 4) and that isn't great.. we aren't satisfied wit that and will do all we can to not repeat it. But as Lectr said and I agree: Making them replay those games due to OUR delays is unfair to the results. So we think this is the best balance!

Hope you all mostly agree <3



Seems fair given the circumstances. Does that mean that, once the league gets "caught up" (or something) that the games will be played live, or with less delay, or is it going to be run...parallel to the current time frame (i.e. games will be played tomorrow, and then casted in a few weeks)?


I think we will always strive for live but it may not happen as often as anyone would like given we have a fixed broadcast time AND we have eu/na/kr teams .. that would be very unfair for eu/kr teams and the quality of the games should be chief concern here.

Until we build esports city this is the best we can do if we want to be international!
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 10 2013 01:45 GMT
#175
I'm fine with Millenium not being invited. Last Mill's appearance in MCSL was pretty much a disaster with a lot of misunderstanding between the admins of both sides about the schedules afaik. This and Stephano who was either absent or doing terrible in his matches, it wasn't good at all. And I prefer them to focus on Acer TeamStory Cup.

But still, nowadays, no qualifiers is a lack in any league (team or individual). Teams like Empire, RoX.KIS, Clarity or Quantic could have been good pretenders to participate.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 10 2013 01:45 GMT
#176
atc2?
is there anything that puts this sc2l ahead of the atc?
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
July 10 2013 01:45 GMT
#177
Even if this is from replays, a live finals at DH will make up for it me thinks.
timed
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada40 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 01:47:16
July 10 2013 01:46 GMT
#178
On July 10 2013 10:26 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 10:24 timed wrote:
On July 10 2013 10:22 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On July 10 2013 10:07 MajOr wrote:
On July 10 2013 10:05 EG.lectR wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:51 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:47 Musicus wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:44 MajOr wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:41 skatblast wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:37 MajOr wrote:
[quote]


nah aits been running for atleast 3months if not more just announced until today


well somebody is getting fired...

o wait theres nobody to fire you. Thanks for destroying any hype it had though


sure no problem i just find it disgusting when someone announces a league and try to scam their fans into thinking their games are fresh, its fine to do an event based on replays as long as the replays arent 3 months. but w.e


I love you Major! But really this lessens the value a lot, gotta love ATC being 100% live even more.

They started a league about 6 months ago and then cancelled it when we were almost half way through group stage making all the games we had played utterly pointless, and this one started a month or so ago :/


We did cancel the previous start of the SC2L, but not when the games were "almost halfway through." Teams at max had played two weeks worth of games, and the teams who had done that were only like 2-3 of the 8. We cancelled it out of respect to the teams because we realized we could not yet broadcast the games.



respect? lol is that what you people call respect to gamers? okay

I don't think it's very respectful to the fans to say 6 months when it's actually 4-5 weeks.

Whether 4-5 weeks is okay is another issue entirely, though. I'm fine with it, but apparently a lot of people aren't.

Except games were in fact played 6 months ago, but they will simply be completely ignored instead of broadcasted.

He said the replays were 6 months old, then changed that to 3 months, when apparently a few of them are from 4-5 weeks...

So basically, no he pretty much made stuff up. Either that or he's completely uninformed. And either way, it's disrespectful to the fans, imo.

from the LR thread:

Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 10:26 EG.lectR wrote:
On July 10 2013 10:23 geno wrote:
What about playing 2 different players twice each? Or more? This is quite confusing.

Would still like to know when these matches were played as well.

edit: Saw above answer about triple-playing.


This very first match is about 4-5 weeks old. Only one other match has been completed for the first week and it's less than two weeks old. The other half of matches are not even played yet.

So yeah, I think Major should have just kept his mouth shut.


He thought they were broadcasting those 6 month old games since they had in fact played games 6 months ago, but turns out they're just discarding them.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
July 10 2013 01:46 GMT
#179
On July 10 2013 10:45 teddyoojo wrote:
atc2?
is there anything that puts this sc2l ahead of the atc?


A good english stream!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 10 2013 01:47 GMT
#180
On July 10 2013 10:45 teddyoojo wrote:
atc2?
is there anything that puts this sc2l ahead of the atc?


The english cast at least.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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