EPT//edit : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386598
also, "expensive to play" ? i think at least eg is one of the richest teams.
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
//edit : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386598 also, "expensive to play" ? i think at least eg is one of the richest teams. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On July 10 2013 15:11 graNite wrote: the best thing about this was the thread in which they analyzed they will win this entire thing because of their stacked lineup :D also, "expensive to play" ? i think at least eg is one of the richest teams. It's expensive if you're not getting your money back. | ||
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Daeracon
Sweden203 Posts
I would love to see them in the next season, despite them not having a good ROI, they still get really good practice and experience for the players. | ||
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
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Brian333
657 Posts
On July 10 2013 15:44 graNite wrote: can somebody analyze tl's previews and actual outcomes? We already did. It's called the Fionn curse. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I had a good laugh at the "Flash for reference" part. Kudos to you man. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5617 Posts
On July 10 2013 15:44 graNite wrote: can somebody analyze tl's previews and actual outcomes? That'd be so much fun to see. I wrote in every preview thread for about 4 moths that they were underestimating the kespa players... | ||
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SomethingWitty
Canada94 Posts
Somewhat more interesting is will EG-TL play in next seasons Proleague. My initial answer is no; I evidence this almost purely through the lack of ROI, although, also to Team Liquid's somewhat weak dedication to the team (from what I can tell, I, obviously don't know any background details). I mean Team Liquid did provide EG-TL's ace player in Hero, although what else? An injury ridden Taeja who barely played, the teams weakest korean player currently on the team in Zenio and Snute who lost every game he played. EG provided the bulk of the players for EG-TL in Jaedong, JYP, Revival, Stephano; the poorly placing Thorzain, Huk who also lost every game he played and Puma who just had a horrendous record, although was released from the team for his poor results and unwillingness to sign a lower valued contract; they also added aLive and Oz mid-season to try and boost the teams roster as well as footing the bill for the team house (It was called the EG Lab so I'm assuming they're footing the bill here) and the signing of Coach Park mid-season as well which was unarguably the best possible addition outside of signing Rain, Flash and INnoVation. Now I understand that looking at EG's sponsors and then comparing them to Team Liquid's sponsors it's clear why, financially, EG can do all of this and why, most likely, Team Liquid cannot. With that said, it has been a very large investment on both teams parts and I'm not trying to bash Team Liquid, I'm just laying out my thoughts from my obviously limited knowledge of the inner workings of both teams. The only way I can see them playing in next seasons Proleague is if KeSPA offers some sort of guaranteed ROI for EG, which is a possibility, considering T8 found a sponsor, although still unlikely. This post is slightly off-topic, although, I don't feel like much can be commented on other than will the changes made mid-season result in a payoff next season, which obviously drives the question, will EG-TL be playing in next seasons Proleague. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33723 Posts
On July 10 2013 13:21 OopsOopsBaby wrote: honestly i suspect they will sing a different tune if the results had been different and the team destroyed all competition in proleague and clinched 1st instead of last. Uh obviously yes, because if that would have been the case the ROI would have been off the charts amazing? I hope they try again, but it is incredibly expensive, and the other teams are incredibly good - hard to make it worthwhile. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On July 10 2013 12:26 zeratul_jf wrote: Oh come on they didnt have an actual coach at the beginning, not to mention that they didnt really have a deep line up either. Now that most korean EG players live in the EG house along with coach Park they would def put up better results from the start and not be in such crappy position to start with. You are forgetting they are not the only ones improving. They need to improve more then the others teams that take Proleague really serious. Do you honestly think that is possible? | ||
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Rhaegal
United States678 Posts
On July 10 2013 18:56 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Uh obviously yes, because if that would have been the case the ROI would have been off the charts amazing? I hope they try again, but it is incredibly expensive, and the other teams are incredibly good - hard to make it worthwhile. I'm sure they will convince themselves with all kinds of excuses. Quitting is quitting. | ||
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Quateras
Germany867 Posts
I feel like together with him and stephano maybe having more fun in korea to stay longer, could have made a big difference. Really disappointed with how many TL users are bashing the results and hoping that they wont do a 2nd season in PL... I'm totally clueless how anyone could say such a horrible thing for something that we enjoy together. Hope what incontrol said will not come true, i have never been so excited and hyped for a team playing in a league since i watched SC2.I even got a friend who doesnt play sc2 much to enjoy Proleague with me and he is now an almost bigger fan than me. And all that thanks to the EGTL and Proleague hype. | ||
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SomethingWitty
Canada94 Posts
On July 10 2013 20:14 Quateras wrote: Too bad that the teams were riddled with bad luck on Taeja's injury. I feel like together with him and stephano maybe having more fun in korea to stay longer, could have made a big difference. Really disappointed with how many TL users are bashing the results and hoping that they wont do a 2nd season in PL... I'm totally clueless how anyone could say such a horrible thing for something that we enjoy together. Hope what incontrol said will not come true, i have never been so excited and hyped for a team playing in a league since i watched SC2.I even got a friend who doesnt play sc2 much to enjoy Proleague with me and he is now an almost bigger fan than me. And all that thanks to the EGTL and Proleague hype. It's not that we're hoping that there isn't a 2nd season of Proleague for EG-TL, although, we're being realistic and realistically there isn't a very large chance they will be playing a second season of Proleague. | ||
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Rhaegal
United States678 Posts
On July 10 2013 20:14 Quateras wrote: Too bad that the teams were riddled with bad luck on Taeja's injury. I feel like together with him and stephano maybe having more fun in korea to stay longer, could have made a big difference. Really disappointed with how many TL users are bashing the results and hoping that they wont do a 2nd season in PL... I'm totally clueless how anyone could say such a horrible thing for something that we enjoy together. Hope what incontrol said will not come true, i have never been so excited and hyped for a team playing in a league since i watched SC2.I even got a friend who doesnt play sc2 much to enjoy Proleague with me and he is now an almost bigger fan than me. And all that thanks to the EGTL and Proleague hype. They are the worst team in proleague, their players stream and go to foreign tourneys, and it seems like they have to beg for their foreigners to even stay there. The fact that Stephano complained about it, left, and is still on the team is just priceless. If they aren't going to take PL as seriously as all the other KeSPA teams, then I'll be quite happy if they announce they will not be returning. | ||
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
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PerSe
United Kingdom550 Posts
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zmsFlood
Finland169 Posts
Although EGTL didn't perform as well as I'd hoped, it really was a blast watching the games (maybe especially because I was unfamiliar to the proleague format prior to this season) REALLY hope to see the unholy alliance continue next season!! | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
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SupaDupaFlyPro
Italy47 Posts
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