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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 10 2013 01:03 GMT
#21
On July 10 2013 09:51 EleanorRIgby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 09:39 Noocta wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:29 algue wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:06 Gosi wrote:
Interesting stuff. Hopefully they will give next season a go!


if there is a next season


Well apparently there is not.


eg/tl deciding not to go for another season because they suck?


Incontrol just said on ITG that they're thinking about not doing it because the ROI isn't that great and it's really expensive to play it.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
July 10 2013 01:06 GMT
#22
On July 10 2013 09:13 randomsaint wrote:
Really surprised that you would use cumulative wins and not SPL win percentages for the graphs, but good work anyway

This, or at least substract the maps lost
EFermi
Profile Joined May 2011
United States165 Posts
July 10 2013 03:05 GMT
#23
I don't think there's any guarantee that they will be a playoff team next year, don't forget that all other teams will also train hard and probably improve immensely.
GO herO, Bunny, JangBi, Savage, BaBy, Pigbaby, StarDust, RoRo, Flying and Soulkey
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
July 10 2013 03:17 GMT
#24
On July 10 2013 10:03 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 09:51 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:39 Noocta wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:29 algue wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:06 Gosi wrote:
Interesting stuff. Hopefully they will give next season a go!


if there is a next season


Well apparently there is not.


eg/tl deciding not to go for another season because they suck?


Incontrol just said on ITG that they're thinking about not doing it because the ROI isn't that great and it's really expensive to play it.


What no!!!! i love EG-TL in Proleague and i believe that with a good coach like park they could of made it into the playoff
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
July 10 2013 03:20 GMT
#25
using flash as a scale just shows how good he is compared to an entire team (or half of one)
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
July 10 2013 03:23 GMT
#26
On July 10 2013 12:17 zeratul_jf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 10:03 Noocta wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:51 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:39 Noocta wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:29 algue wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:06 Gosi wrote:
Interesting stuff. Hopefully they will give next season a go!


if there is a next season


Well apparently there is not.


eg/tl deciding not to go for another season because they suck?


Incontrol just said on ITG that they're thinking about not doing it because the ROI isn't that great and it's really expensive to play it.


What no!!!! i love EG-TL in Proleague and i believe that with a good coach like park they could of made it into the playoff


eg/tl making the playoffs? no.. maybe getting 7th place though.
savior did nothing wrong
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
July 10 2013 03:26 GMT
#27
On July 10 2013 12:23 EleanorRIgby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 12:17 zeratul_jf wrote:
On July 10 2013 10:03 Noocta wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:51 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:39 Noocta wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:29 algue wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:06 Gosi wrote:
Interesting stuff. Hopefully they will give next season a go!


if there is a next season


Well apparently there is not.


eg/tl deciding not to go for another season because they suck?


Incontrol just said on ITG that they're thinking about not doing it because the ROI isn't that great and it's really expensive to play it.


What no!!!! i love EG-TL in Proleague and i believe that with a good coach like park they could of made it into the playoff


eg/tl making the playoffs? no.. maybe getting 7th place though.


Oh come on they didnt have an actual coach at the beginning, not to mention that they didnt really have a deep line up either. Now that most korean EG players live in the EG house along with coach Park they would def put up better results from the start and not be in such crappy position to start with.
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 03:33:33
July 10 2013 03:33 GMT
#28
Sick write up and EG.SeleCT incoming!
JD, need I say more? :D
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
July 10 2013 03:35 GMT
#29
On July 10 2013 10:03 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 09:51 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:39 Noocta wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:29 algue wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:06 Gosi wrote:
Interesting stuff. Hopefully they will give next season a go!


if there is a next season


Well apparently there is not.


eg/tl deciding not to go for another season because they suck?


Incontrol just said on ITG that they're thinking about not doing it because the ROI isn't that great and it's really expensive to play it.



bahaha. Foreigners baby.
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
July 10 2013 03:52 GMT
#30
My very own and VERY SUBJECTIVE opinion is that many of the losses of EG-TL players came after they get "drop harrassed to death while not build any static defenses at all to prevent or even help in defending against that". I have no idea if this is a real thing and a "bad trend of the team" and other people with more knowledge of the games played could perhaps confirm or deny it.

This is a pet peeve of mine, because if you try to defend against drops with units only you have to split up a significant part of your forces and this weakens your main army and most of the time a small but potent force is dropped in a base and requires a larger force that this to take care of quickly ... which leaves the opponent with a larger force than the defender. I really dont buy the "but your army will be smaller if you build static defenses" argument, because you gather resources over time and this will only delay you from growing for a short time and there are players who actually manage to do it.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
July 10 2013 04:04 GMT
#31
On July 10 2013 12:35 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 10:03 Noocta wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:51 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:39 Noocta wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:29 algue wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:06 Gosi wrote:
Interesting stuff. Hopefully they will give next season a go!


if there is a next season


Well apparently there is not.


eg/tl deciding not to go for another season because they suck?


Incontrol just said on ITG that they're thinking about not doing it because the ROI isn't that great and it's really expensive to play it.



bahaha. Foreigners baby.


ROI is kind of entirely the purpose of a business. It's way more expensive for a foreign team to participate, especially since they're sending people all over the planet for other events, than it is for a korean team that just sits in korea.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Brian333
Profile Joined August 2010
657 Posts
July 10 2013 04:15 GMT
#32
I think being in the Kespa atmosphere and trying to be competitive in PL gives EG a better chance at tournaments outside of Korea whenever they do go to them. Having that gaming house in Korea with Coach Park gives them an edge over every other foreign team. If they're winning more, advancing deeper in tournaments and getting more brand exposure outside of PL because they have that PL infrastructure, isn't that a ROI in and of itself?
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
July 10 2013 04:18 GMT
#33
LOL Flash for scale...
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
July 10 2013 04:21 GMT
#34
On July 10 2013 13:04 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 12:35 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 10 2013 10:03 Noocta wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:51 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:39 Noocta wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:29 algue wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:06 Gosi wrote:
Interesting stuff. Hopefully they will give next season a go!


if there is a next season


Well apparently there is not.


eg/tl deciding not to go for another season because they suck?


Incontrol just said on ITG that they're thinking about not doing it because the ROI isn't that great and it's really expensive to play it.



bahaha. Foreigners baby.


ROI is kind of entirely the purpose of a business. It's way more expensive for a foreign team to participate, especially since they're sending people all over the planet for other events, than it is for a korean team that just sits in korea.

honestly i suspect they will sing a different tune if the results had been different and the team destroyed all competition in proleague and clinched 1st instead of last.
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
July 10 2013 04:25 GMT
#35
Wow this is amazing :o Thanks for doing it. Will read all of it later for sure.

Man look at revivals player line ... almost straight up and then a straight line across ... talk about a slump :/
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
July 10 2013 04:28 GMT
#36
On July 10 2013 13:21 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 13:04 Whitewing wrote:
On July 10 2013 12:35 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 10 2013 10:03 Noocta wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:51 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:39 Noocta wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:29 algue wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:06 Gosi wrote:
Interesting stuff. Hopefully they will give next season a go!


if there is a next season


Well apparently there is not.


eg/tl deciding not to go for another season because they suck?


Incontrol just said on ITG that they're thinking about not doing it because the ROI isn't that great and it's really expensive to play it.



bahaha. Foreigners baby.


ROI is kind of entirely the purpose of a business. It's way more expensive for a foreign team to participate, especially since they're sending people all over the planet for other events, than it is for a korean team that just sits in korea.

honestly i suspect they will sing a different tune if the results had been different and the team destroyed all competition in proleague and clinched 1st instead of last.



Well, they would have gotten a lot more attention and hype if they had done well, which translates to higher ROI (more value to the sponsors if the team does well)
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
Ryukku
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore545 Posts
July 10 2013 04:28 GMT
#37
How does a foreign team even make any money from playing in proleague? Im sure its not for the prize money.

Proleague is for the korean market, how does EG-TL (a foreign sponsored team) earn any profit from playing in it.

Im just curious, cause i want EG-TL to play but like someone earlier said, the ROI is poor.
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
July 10 2013 04:31 GMT
#38
Good analysis.

If EGTL doesn't participate in PL next season I expect the level of play of most of their Korean players to drop (or at least, stop increasing). If nothing else, PL is good practice and a good motivator.

Celeborn22
Profile Joined March 2013
United States5 Posts
July 10 2013 05:46 GMT
#39
well, looks like they are doing the new scl instead
poisui
Profile Joined July 2011
1088 Posts
July 10 2013 06:00 GMT
#40
On July 10 2013 09:51 EleanorRIgby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 09:39 Noocta wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:29 algue wrote:
On July 10 2013 09:06 Gosi wrote:
Interesting stuff. Hopefully they will give next season a go!


if there is a next season


Well apparently there is not.


eg/tl deciding not to go for another season because they suck?

Haha. =P
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