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SC2 Power Rank - July 2013 - Page 5

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tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
July 03 2013 21:01 GMT
#81
Gdi Life.

I actually think he still deserves to be here....
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
July 03 2013 21:01 GMT
#82
On July 04 2013 05:20 Yonnua wrote:
Mvp narrowly loses to Innovation in WCS semis, nearly takes him out, certainly coming closer than anybody else at that tournament. Eighth place.

BUT JANGBI AND FANTASY DID REALLY WELL IN PROLEAGUE GUYS!!!


I know right.

Doesn't help that Jangbi and Fantasy both got WRECKED in the GSL and OSL.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
July 03 2013 21:04 GMT
#83
On July 04 2013 05:58 painkilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 05:54 GTPGlitch wrote:
On July 04 2013 05:31 Scville wrote:
Azubu Symbol ''...In the OSL Ro32, though he eventually made it through, it was the same story as last month, as he only beat mediocre players in ZvZ to do so.''

''In the OSL Ro32, though he eventually made it through, it was the same story as last month, as he only beat mediocre players in ZvZ to do so.''

I'm pretty sure those mediocre code s players are better than TLO and Snute.

And why the fuck MVP is only rank 8? Seriously he almost defeated Innovation in a bo5 and Jangbi is rank6 because he won some bo1? Oh my god

And parting isn't in top 10 anymore because he lost a bo1 against Supernova? Jesus Christ.

And while Parting plays against 100x harder opponents and is still 6-4, Taeja is in top 10 because he barely won against TLO and Snute.

Such a joke.


You're taking this waaaaaaay to seriously lol

This has no effect on anything, it's just for fun. Stop freaking out and learn to accept the opinions of others~


It should be obvious now that power rank is Proleague power rank with some consolation places for esf players. Not necessarily bad since PL is the only weekly thing. But the criteria should be clear : We put a lot of weights for matchs in PL in this power rank.


Would it not be better to just have a group of say 20 pro gamers, or good casters like Artosis/idra/incontrol, that list their top 10 at the end of the month? I think that would be so much better.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
July 03 2013 21:05 GMT
#84
so many excuses not enough substance
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 21:06:26
July 03 2013 21:06 GMT
#85
MVP belongs at #8 for now. I can respect that even as a huge MVP and IM fan.

First should be in the honorable mentions though. That guy is starting to look like royal road material.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10000 Posts
July 03 2013 21:06 GMT
#86
acceptable list, if first keeps up w/ his solid play he should take mvp's spot next month. skillwise i think hes one of the best p's atm
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Misacampo
Profile Joined July 2012
167 Posts
July 03 2013 21:07 GMT
#87
I wonder why LIQUID taeja placed above ALLIANCE naniwa despite naniwa's WAY superior results in the past month.
isospeedrix
Profile Joined November 2010
United States215 Posts
July 03 2013 21:07 GMT
#88
Good list except for Fantasy. Really funny that Rain is so high up with no deep finishes. but he is a good player.
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HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
July 03 2013 21:09 GMT
#89
Polt should be top 5
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
July 03 2013 21:11 GMT
#90
On July 04 2013 06:01 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 05:20 Yonnua wrote:
Mvp narrowly loses to Innovation in WCS semis, nearly takes him out, certainly coming closer than anybody else at that tournament. Eighth place.

BUT JANGBI AND FANTASY DID REALLY WELL IN PROLEAGUE GUYS!!!


I know right.

Doesn't help that Jangbi and Fantasy both got WRECKED in the GSL and OSL.


Don't forget that Fantasy's game vs First in OSL Ro16 is not counted towards this, since it didn't happen in June. And JangBi is basically solo carrying Samsung KHAN on his back. They both deserve their spots. (also, MVP would lose to both of them, but that's just my opinion and we won't know until/if they meet in the future).

I think this is spot on ranking, only thing I would change is Parting in, Taeja out.
And I fully expect First to place in this power rank next month, if he continues with his performance...
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
July 03 2013 21:12 GMT
#91
On July 04 2013 06:07 Misacampo wrote:
I wonder why LIQUID taeja placed above ALLIANCE naniwa despite naniwa's WAY superior results in the past month.

Definitely not because he won a tournament or anything.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
July 03 2013 21:14 GMT
#92
needs more KESPA
BW4LIFE
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
July 03 2013 21:15 GMT
#93
On July 04 2013 06:07 Misacampo wrote:
I wonder why LIQUID taeja placed above ALLIANCE naniwa despite naniwa's WAY superior results in the past month.


pretty insulting accusation considering the TL writers have historically never shown excessive bias towards any player that isn't MVP.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
July 03 2013 21:16 GMT
#94
Fantasy being ahead of MVP I disagree with, otherwise spot on in everything else.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 03 2013 21:16 GMT
#95
..and the hopes and dreams of eSF supporters across the land have been shattered as they realized their best chance at a #1 Power Rank placement is now but a whisper in the wind.


eSF supporters have probably by now given up any hope of any PR placement of their players, as the PR is mainly based on a league that is relevant only because of its importance for a game that is no longer played professionaly and vaguely resembles SC2, and no eSF team happens to take part in said league.

I think this format had merit in the days, when Proleague was the shit, because Proleague itself does not clearly lead to a order of players. But now that we have WCS World (and Proleague is a very niche thing), we kind of already have a natural player ranking - you can choose whether it is their order at the last WCS finals or their WCS points (I would take the former more seriously, as you can't tell apart EU and NA WCS points that are significantly cheaper).
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 03 2013 21:17 GMT
#96
On July 04 2013 06:15 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 06:07 Misacampo wrote:
I wonder why LIQUID taeja placed above ALLIANCE naniwa despite naniwa's WAY superior results in the past month.


pretty insulting accusation considering the TL writers have historically never shown excessive bias towards any player that isn't MVP.

and we all know it is impossible to show "excessive bias" towards Mvp, because Mvp!!!!!!!!!!!
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 03 2013 21:19 GMT
#97
On July 04 2013 05:37 Hellbat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 05:24 figq wrote:
On July 04 2013 05:20 digmouse wrote:
To all that thinks Life should be in the Top 10, one reason he is playing so bad atm is he plays a lot of LoL nowadays.
Is this true?

And if it were true - wtf, so you are at the top of the world when new expansion comes, you beat the best players with innovative style and... you just start playing another game? What in the flying fuck. Who does that.


Maybe league is more fun for him? He is his own person and can do what he wants you know.

Of course, I just find it extremely strange that someone switches games exactly when he has introduced a new style to solidify him as the best in his (previous) game. Maybe Life got bored with being the best in SC2.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
July 03 2013 21:20 GMT
#98
On July 04 2013 06:19 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 05:37 Hellbat wrote:
On July 04 2013 05:24 figq wrote:
On July 04 2013 05:20 digmouse wrote:
To all that thinks Life should be in the Top 10, one reason he is playing so bad atm is he plays a lot of LoL nowadays.
Is this true?

And if it were true - wtf, so you are at the top of the world when new expansion comes, you beat the best players with innovative style and... you just start playing another game? What in the flying fuck. Who does that.


Maybe league is more fun for him? He is his own person and can do what he wants you know.

Of course, I just find it extremely strange that someone switches games exactly when he has introduced a new style to solidify him as the best in his (previous) game. Maybe Life got bored with being the best in SC2.


he's 16
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 21:22:45
July 03 2013 21:22 GMT
#99
i dont think ive seen a worse one yet

or is it kespa+foreign teams only?
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 03 2013 21:24 GMT
#100
On July 04 2013 06:16 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
..and the hopes and dreams of eSF supporters across the land have been shattered as they realized their best chance at a #1 Power Rank placement is now but a whisper in the wind.


eSF supporters have probably by now given up any hope of any PR placement of their players, as the PR is mainly based on a league that is relevant only because of its importance for a game that is no longer played professionaly and vaguely resembles SC2, and no eSF team happens to take part in said league.

I think this format had merit in the days, when Proleague was the shit, because Proleague itself does not clearly lead to a order of players. But now that we have WCS World (and Proleague is a very niche thing), we kind of already have a natural player ranking - you can choose whether it is their order at the last WCS finals or their WCS points (I would take the former more seriously, as you can't tell apart EU and NA WCS points that are significantly cheaper).


Yeah kind of.

For players like Bogus, Soulkey, and Flash it's profoundly obvious that they deserve their spots.

However, players like Jangbi and Fantasy are a lot more debatable in their ranking. They're mainly inflated by PL which is a bit unfair as eSF has less opportunities to show their players outside of WCS. But, something is better than nothing, so they maintain their spots.

Personally, I think MVP is better than both of them, but he's mainly been munching on Europeans so I'm hard pressed to argue when it comes to results. The skill is there though, imo.
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