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namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 20:32:00
July 01 2013 20:31 GMT
#21
Well that sucks for them and him. Not that I knew that he was in there in the first place.
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captainwaffles
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1050 Posts
July 01 2013 20:35 GMT
#22
On July 02 2013 04:15 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 04:11 ThomasjServo wrote:
On July 02 2013 04:05 Aeromi wrote:
That's why he gave up in Zotac yesterday !

Sad news for WW.

Gave up, or didn't show or what? I don't follow Zotac so I am just looking for clarification.

I wonder where Arthur is headed to from here. Part of me says Mouz.Arthur might be a good fit or maybe Millennium , but they just added Lucifron and Vortix and who knows what kind of money Arthur was looking for.

Risky times to go team searching continue, assuming he was looking to continue on as a pro.



He didn't play agaisnt MarinLord in quarter final yesterday.



http://sc2na.zotac-cup.com/en/cups/989-zotac-starcraft-ii-na-hots-cup-108

Looks like he won it.
https://x.com/CaptainWaffless
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 20:40:02
July 01 2013 20:36 GMT
#23
On July 02 2013 05:05 Seeker wrote:
Darn... Why? T-T (I am not actually asking why. I read the thread)

I wanted to see so much more from Arthur...

Me too. I remember when SlayerS was in its end phase and they still played the EG Masters Cup and Arthur stepped it up so many times and in the end he went 8-2 in Matches and 17-7 in Maps, which was very impressive imo. So much potential, but I guess without the SlayerS environment his progress as a player was slowed down immensly.

On July 02 2013 05:35 captainwaffles wrote:
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On July 02 2013 04:15 Aeromi wrote:
On July 02 2013 04:11 ThomasjServo wrote:
On July 02 2013 04:05 Aeromi wrote:
That's why he gave up in Zotac yesterday !

Sad news for WW.

Gave up, or didn't show or what? I don't follow Zotac so I am just looking for clarification.

I wonder where Arthur is headed to from here. Part of me says Mouz.Arthur might be a good fit or maybe Millennium , but they just added Lucifron and Vortix and who knows what kind of money Arthur was looking for.

Risky times to go team searching continue, assuming he was looking to continue on as a pro.



He didn't play agaisnt MarinLord in quarter final yesterday.



http://sc2na.zotac-cup.com/en/cups/989-zotac-starcraft-ii-na-hots-cup-108

Looks like he won it.

I think he was talking about this one:
http://sc2eu.zotac-cup.com/de/cups/995-zotac-starcraft-ii-eu-hots-cup-163
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
July 01 2013 20:44 GMT
#24
Sounds like a typical case of culture clash Korean <-> Western.
I hope he finds a new team quickly, he was one of the prospects of SlayerS. Best of luck to him and of course also to WW!!!
Get off my lawn, young punks
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
July 01 2013 20:46 GMT
#25
On July 02 2013 04:27 digmouse wrote:
Didn't WW just lost SortOf?


Indeed they have. When WW assembled their full roster earlier this year it looked like they could genuinely become recognised as one of the main premier teams of Europe. Then they got all-killed in the TeamStory Cup By Hope (at the time he was a complete noname-er) and since then they've lost SortOf, their best foreigner (and arguably the best player of the team).

The roster is still fairly strong, bolstered mainly by Sting, but once again they're looking very light.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
July 01 2013 20:51 GMT
#26
On July 02 2013 05:46 Greendotz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 04:27 digmouse wrote:
Didn't WW just lost SortOf?


Indeed they have. When WW assembled their full roster earlier this year it looked like they could genuinely become recognised as one of the main premier teams of Europe. Then they got all-killed in the TeamStory Cup By Hope (at the time he was a complete noname-er) and since then they've lost SortOf, their best foreigner (and arguably the best player of the team).

The roster is still fairly strong, bolstered mainly by Sting, but once again they're looking very light.

They also lost one of their managers, Wake, to mouz.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
July 01 2013 20:53 GMT
#27
Haven't really heard much from the team or Arthur in a long time it feels. I remember Arthur making those ipl starts in team league and owning. But than he just vanished like ipl and slayers.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 21:09:30
July 01 2013 21:08 GMT
#28
On July 02 2013 04:44 Nerchio wrote:
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On July 02 2013 04:34 shid0x wrote:
I completely understand and agree with the decision of the WW manager.
Would have done the same about the raise,i mean come on...

Arthur on the other hand lowered in my esteem...Leaving like that just for a raise refusal...Not even trying to talk about it later nothing....way to go kid.
When he'll get a job outside pro gaming i hope he doesn't also quit like that.

How do you know what was his salary? Maybe he realised after he signed the contract it was really bad compared to others and tried to change it. Just a usual change of teams


My point is that he agreed to a certain salary the day he signed his contract.
His results lets be honest haven't been better since he signed,hence a raise would not be acceptable as a manager point of view.

If he wasn't satisfied with it in the first place he shouldn't have signed,i guess WW said to him when he signed that he would eventually have a raise if he had good results.

PS : WW seems like a serious team to me,even the basic salary should be average for a pro-gamer.
RIP MKP
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 21:35:49
July 01 2013 21:35 GMT
#29
Gonna throw in my two cents here, going off of the assumption that his salary was decent and allowed him to cover his living conditions and such.

So you go to the manager and you demand a raise. He refuses it. Why don't you show him that you deserve it, why don't you earn it? Compete in online tournaments and qualifiers, own nerds, get invited or qualify for tournaments, show him that you're good and tell him to send you to tournaments. And even then, you can still earn a little extra cash just by competing more. Hell, there's 8 Go4sc2 cups in a month (12 if you're a premium ESL member), 8 ZOTAC cups, both of these franchises also have monthly finals with pretty good payout, and then there's stuff like EnerJ cups and the odd South East Asian cup.

He's proven his chops in such tournaments before, hell it's only been 2 days since he crushed StarDust 3-0 in the finals of the latest NA ZOTAC...

In the end it's his choice to make and I respect that, but I wish he hadn't picked the easiest way out, gambling that someone else will pick him up and meet his conditions... ~_~
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
July 09 2013 14:47 GMT
#30
This is sad i've always been a fan of WW and Arthur. Hopefully Arthur finds a new team soon.
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