• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:01
CEST 01:01
KST 08:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments2[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon10[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes160BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch2Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes SC4ALL: A North American StarCraft LAN Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon Why Storm Should NOT Be Nerfed – A Core Part of Pr
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Stellar Fest KSL Week 80 StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
ASL ro8 Upper Bracket HYPE VIDEO Starcraft: Destruction expansion pack? StarCraft - Stratospace. Very rare expansion pack StarCraft Stellar Forces had bad maps BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch [ASL20] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Borderlands 3 General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
i'm really bored guys
Peanutsc
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2650 users

WCS Age Restriction - Page 3

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 20:45:17
June 18 2013 20:45 GMT
#41
Nah i got my diploma in maths many years ago.
Copuld be seen as work, or maybe there is also something for "competitions".
(man german law is a jungle lol)
semmeL
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany85 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 20:55:24
June 18 2013 20:46 GMT
#42
http://www.bmfsfj.de/BMFSFJ/gesetze,did=5350.html

looket that up. "... video games only allowed to give to children/young people designated their age in public..", same applies to new medias (i assume streaming etc would be under these things). So legal problems to show people playing games not their age for the public.

Edit: oh also found the english official translation for that german children law in english
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 20:50:33
June 18 2013 20:48 GMT
#43
On June 19 2013 05:40 Daumen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 05:36 TumNarDok wrote:
12 years restriction for WCS KR Source:

http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=301345&cid=0&kind=8


one of 4 german laws regulating the work for teenagers (14-18)

http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/jarbschg/__14.html

--
Still unknown though where the Blizzard rules came from, probably from their legal department after revisioning european laws.


Im not sure wether that rule applies to Gaming... this is not about "work", its about Tournaments, isnt it? Not sure about legal stuff, ill ask a friend of mine that studies Law (or are you studying law too, maybe?)

In the US, the prize money would be considered "income" and there are legal restrictions on that when it comes to minors. Law is generally not that cut and dry and judges decided how to apply them. So it is best to take a "better safe that sorry route" and jut assume the law applies to what you are doing.

On June 19 2013 05:46 semmeL wrote:
http://www.bmfsfj.de/BMFSFJ/gesetze,did=5350.html

looket that up. "... video games only allowed to give to people complying with FSK requirements in the public..", same applies to new medias (i assume streaming etc would be under these things). So legal problems to show people playing games not their age for the public.


That's interesting. We don't have anything like that in the US. The more people look up, the more it seems like someone said "Fuck it, make the age 16 so we don't have to deal with the legal mine field."
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
semmeL
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany85 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 20:59:40
June 18 2013 20:57 GMT
#44
something found in the official translation of german children law in english:

"§ 6 Gambling rooms, games of chance
(1)
Children
and
Adolescents
must not be permitted to be present in gambling rooms or
comparable gambling facilities.
(2) Participation of
Children
and
Adolescents
in games with prizes run in the public shall be
restricted to fun-fairs, folklore festivals and comparable events under the condition of low-
value prizes in kind. "

under point (2)

and Data Media Chapter3.. and so on
Daumen
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1073 Posts
June 18 2013 20:58 GMT
#45
On June 19 2013 05:48 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 05:40 Daumen wrote:
On June 19 2013 05:36 TumNarDok wrote:
12 years restriction for WCS KR Source:

http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=301345&cid=0&kind=8


one of 4 german laws regulating the work for teenagers (14-18)

http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/jarbschg/__14.html

--
Still unknown though where the Blizzard rules came from, probably from their legal department after revisioning european laws.


Im not sure wether that rule applies to Gaming... this is not about "work", its about Tournaments, isnt it? Not sure about legal stuff, ill ask a friend of mine that studies Law (or are you studying law too, maybe?)

In the US, the prize money would be considered "income" and there are legal restrictions on that when it comes to minors. Law is generally not that cut and dry and judges decided how to apply them. So it is best to take a "better safe that sorry route" and jut assume the law applies to what you are doing.

Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 05:46 semmeL wrote:
http://www.bmfsfj.de/BMFSFJ/gesetze,did=5350.html

looket that up. "... video games only allowed to give to people complying with FSK requirements in the public..", same applies to new medias (i assume streaming etc would be under these things). So legal problems to show people playing games not their age for the public.


That's interesting. We don't have anything like that in the US. The more people look up, the more it seems like someone said "Fuck it, make the age 16 so we don't have to deal with the legal mine field."


Thats a pretty good desctiption... Minefield, i like that... also applies to the Tax rules in Germany... :D
President of the ReaL Fan Club.
TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
June 18 2013 21:00 GMT
#46
On June 19 2013 05:48 Plansix wrote:

That's interesting. We don't have anything like that in the US. The more people look up, the more it seems like someone said "Fuck it, make the age 16 so we don't have to deal with the legal mine field."


Which is what i would do if i ran a gaming platform with 3 million gamers, half of which probably are starting with video games at like .. 11.. 12.

If anyone has expertise in the field then its yep ESL, and Blizzard has aswell, from now 10 years of running WoW.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 21:06:47
June 18 2013 21:06 GMT
#47
On June 19 2013 06:00 TumNarDok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 05:48 Plansix wrote:

That's interesting. We don't have anything like that in the US. The more people look up, the more it seems like someone said "Fuck it, make the age 16 so we don't have to deal with the legal mine field."


Which is what i would do if i ran a gaming platform with 3 million gamers, half of which probably are starting with video games at like .. 11.. 12.

If anyone has expertise in the field then its yep ESL, and Blizzard has aswell, from now 10 years of running WoW.


Oh I am sure there is a member of Blizzards legal department that just shoots down ideas all day. Most the the discussions must go like this:

Blizzard-Esports: We would like have anyone who can play our game sign up for WCS and compete. As long as they can reach a keyboard and mouse, we want them to be able to play.

Blizzard-Legal: I hope you don't want to vacation in Germany, England or Iceland, because they will arrest you when you land. You specifically, because you came up with the idea.

Blizzard-Esports: You know, you could just say its not allowed by law in those countries.

Blizzard-Legal: I did that before and people just tried to find ways around them. Now I just try to scare the shit out of people so they don't try.

It would be a lot like my discussions with our very silly clients.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
June 18 2013 21:07 GMT
#48
On June 19 2013 05:46 semmeL wrote:
http://www.bmfsfj.de/BMFSFJ/gesetze,did=5350.html

looket that up. "... video games only allowed to give to children/young people designated their age in public..", same applies to new medias (i assume streaming etc would be under these things). So legal problems to show people playing games not their age for the public.

Edit: oh also found the english official translation for that german children law in english


SC2 is 12+
semmeL
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany85 Posts
June 18 2013 21:12 GMT
#49
On June 19 2013 06:07 Zocat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 05:46 semmeL wrote:
http://www.bmfsfj.de/BMFSFJ/gesetze,did=5350.html

looket that up. "... video games only allowed to give to children/young people designated their age in public..", same applies to new medias (i assume streaming etc would be under these things). So legal problems to show people playing games not their age for the public.

Edit: oh also found the english official translation for that german children law in english


SC2 is 12+


It's 12+ but read the Paragraph i posted above with prize money.
Shodaa
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 21:13:55
June 18 2013 21:13 GMT
#50
On June 19 2013 06:07 Zocat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 05:46 semmeL wrote:
http://www.bmfsfj.de/BMFSFJ/gesetze,did=5350.html

looket that up. "... video games only allowed to give to children/young people designated their age in public..", same applies to new medias (i assume streaming etc would be under these things). So legal problems to show people playing games not their age for the public.

Edit: oh also found the english official translation for that german children law in english


SC2 is 12+


It's actually 16+ in some region of Europe

Box picture in spoiler:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/401120/1/Shodaa/
semmeL
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany85 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 21:18:20
June 18 2013 21:14 GMT
#51
On June 19 2013 06:13 Shodaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 06:07 Zocat wrote:
On June 19 2013 05:46 semmeL wrote:
http://www.bmfsfj.de/BMFSFJ/gesetze,did=5350.html

looket that up. "... video games only allowed to give to children/young people designated their age in public..", same applies to new medias (i assume streaming etc would be under these things). So legal problems to show people playing games not their age for the public.

Edit: oh also found the english official translation for that german children law in english


SC2 is 12+


It's actually 16+ in some region of Europe

Box picture in spoiler:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


If its also 16+ in some regions of eruope, dunno with laws and whatever if u allow someone resident in another part of europe to play it in germany and so on... will get complicated i think. Or dont know maybe not.

But i think the part with prize money is also a big part.
+ Show Spoiler +
german children law in english
(2) Participation of
Children
and
Adolescents
in games with prizes run in the public shall be
restricted to fun-fairs, folklore festivals and comparable events under the condition of low-
value prizes in kind. "
Junichi
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1056 Posts
June 18 2013 21:19 GMT
#52
He took an aging potion and tricked Dumbledore's age restriction line.
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
Daumen
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1073 Posts
June 18 2013 22:07 GMT
#53
On June 19 2013 06:13 Shodaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 06:07 Zocat wrote:
On June 19 2013 05:46 semmeL wrote:
http://www.bmfsfj.de/BMFSFJ/gesetze,did=5350.html

looket that up. "... video games only allowed to give to children/young people designated their age in public..", same applies to new medias (i assume streaming etc would be under these things). So legal problems to show people playing games not their age for the public.

Edit: oh also found the english official translation for that german children law in english


SC2 is 12+


It's actually 16+ in some region of Europe

Box picture in spoiler:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



Thanks for your post, I checked my German-Wings of Liberty Box: USK 12
President of the ReaL Fan Club.
a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
June 18 2013 22:09 GMT
#54
Blizzard enforces 12 as an age restriction cause it's a Teen rated game, right?
VOD finder guy for sc2ratings.com/ ! aka: ogndrahcir, a9azn2 | Go ZerO, Stork, Sea, and KawaiiRice :D | nesc2league.com/forum/index.php | youtube.com/watch?v=oaGtjWL5mZo
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
21:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #16
davetesta68
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 280
Nathanias 110
League of Legends
JimRising 492
Cuddl3bear9
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K566
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox338
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor217
Other Games
summit1g7994
FrodaN4008
Grubby3957
fl0m751
shahzam690
ToD245
KnowMe143
XaKoH 90
Trikslyr73
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick540
angryscii22
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 23
• Berry_CruncH20
• HeavenSC 9
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix15
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22253
League of Legends
• Doublelift5427
Other Games
• Scarra1171
• imaqtpie856
• Shiphtur213
Upcoming Events
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
8h 59m
RSL Revival
10h 59m
Classic vs TBD
WardiTV Invitational
11h 59m
Online Event
16h 59m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 10h
Barracks vs Mini
Wardi Open
1d 11h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 16h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
Clem vs Reynor
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-18
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.