EPTCopuld be seen as work, or maybe there is also something for "competitions".
(man german law is a jungle lol)
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TumNarDok
Germany854 Posts
Copuld be seen as work, or maybe there is also something for "competitions". (man german law is a jungle lol) | ||
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semmeL
Germany85 Posts
looket that up. "... video games only allowed to give to children/young people designated their age in public..", same applies to new medias (i assume streaming etc would be under these things). So legal problems to show people playing games not their age for the public. Edit: oh also found the english official translation for that german children law in english | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 19 2013 05:40 Daumen wrote: Im not sure wether that rule applies to Gaming... this is not about "work", its about Tournaments, isnt it? Not sure about legal stuff, ill ask a friend of mine that studies Law (or are you studying law too, maybe?) In the US, the prize money would be considered "income" and there are legal restrictions on that when it comes to minors. Law is generally not that cut and dry and judges decided how to apply them. So it is best to take a "better safe that sorry route" and jut assume the law applies to what you are doing. On June 19 2013 05:46 semmeL wrote: http://www.bmfsfj.de/BMFSFJ/gesetze,did=5350.html looket that up. "... video games only allowed to give to people complying with FSK requirements in the public..", same applies to new medias (i assume streaming etc would be under these things). So legal problems to show people playing games not their age for the public. That's interesting. We don't have anything like that in the US. The more people look up, the more it seems like someone said "Fuck it, make the age 16 so we don't have to deal with the legal mine field." | ||
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semmeL
Germany85 Posts
"§ 6 Gambling rooms, games of chance (1) Children and Adolescents must not be permitted to be present in gambling rooms or comparable gambling facilities. (2) Participation of Children and Adolescents in games with prizes run in the public shall be restricted to fun-fairs, folklore festivals and comparable events under the condition of low- value prizes in kind. " under point (2) and Data Media Chapter3.. and so on | ||
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Daumen
Germany1073 Posts
On June 19 2013 05:48 Plansix wrote: In the US, the prize money would be considered "income" and there are legal restrictions on that when it comes to minors. Law is generally not that cut and dry and judges decided how to apply them. So it is best to take a "better safe that sorry route" and jut assume the law applies to what you are doing. That's interesting. We don't have anything like that in the US. The more people look up, the more it seems like someone said "Fuck it, make the age 16 so we don't have to deal with the legal mine field." Thats a pretty good desctiption... Minefield, i like that... also applies to the Tax rules in Germany... :D | ||
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TumNarDok
Germany854 Posts
On June 19 2013 05:48 Plansix wrote: That's interesting. We don't have anything like that in the US. The more people look up, the more it seems like someone said "Fuck it, make the age 16 so we don't have to deal with the legal mine field." Which is what i would do if i ran a gaming platform with 3 million gamers, half of which probably are starting with video games at like .. 11.. 12. If anyone has expertise in the field then its yep ESL, and Blizzard has aswell, from now 10 years of running WoW. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 19 2013 06:00 TumNarDok wrote: Which is what i would do if i ran a gaming platform with 3 million gamers, half of which probably are starting with video games at like .. 11.. 12. If anyone has expertise in the field then its yep ESL, and Blizzard has aswell, from now 10 years of running WoW. Oh I am sure there is a member of Blizzards legal department that just shoots down ideas all day. Most the the discussions must go like this: Blizzard-Esports: We would like have anyone who can play our game sign up for WCS and compete. As long as they can reach a keyboard and mouse, we want them to be able to play. Blizzard-Legal: I hope you don't want to vacation in Germany, England or Iceland, because they will arrest you when you land. You specifically, because you came up with the idea. Blizzard-Esports: You know, you could just say its not allowed by law in those countries. Blizzard-Legal: I did that before and people just tried to find ways around them. Now I just try to scare the shit out of people so they don't try. It would be a lot like my discussions with our very silly clients. | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On June 19 2013 05:46 semmeL wrote: http://www.bmfsfj.de/BMFSFJ/gesetze,did=5350.html looket that up. "... video games only allowed to give to children/young people designated their age in public..", same applies to new medias (i assume streaming etc would be under these things). So legal problems to show people playing games not their age for the public. Edit: oh also found the english official translation for that german children law in english SC2 is 12+ | ||
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semmeL
Germany85 Posts
It's 12+ but read the Paragraph i posted above with prize money. | ||
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Shodaa
Canada404 Posts
It's actually 16+ in some region of Europe Box picture in spoiler: + Show Spoiler + | ||
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semmeL
Germany85 Posts
On June 19 2013 06:13 Shodaa wrote: It's actually 16+ in some region of Europe Box picture in spoiler: + Show Spoiler + If its also 16+ in some regions of eruope, dunno with laws and whatever if u allow someone resident in another part of europe to play it in germany and so on... will get complicated i think. Or dont know maybe not. But i think the part with prize money is also a big part. + Show Spoiler + german children law in english (2) Participation of Children and Adolescents in games with prizes run in the public shall be restricted to fun-fairs, folklore festivals and comparable events under the condition of low- value prizes in kind. " | ||
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Junichi
Germany1056 Posts
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Daumen
Germany1073 Posts
On June 19 2013 06:13 Shodaa wrote: It's actually 16+ in some region of Europe Box picture in spoiler: + Show Spoiler + Thanks for your post, I checked my German-Wings of Liberty Box: USK 12 | ||
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a9arnn
United States1537 Posts
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