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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26221 Posts
June 18 2013 03:10 GMT
#221
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Team 8 somewhat subsidised by Kespa? They lack the big name sponsors of the other teams, even a relative noob can see that looking in.

I like Juan, he seems to have a good attitude towards self-improvement, without the results just yet. I wish he actually entered more tournaments so we got to see a bit more of him, the last I saw was in WCS NA when he played with a bit of lag, which is never optimal.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
June 18 2013 03:59 GMT
#222
On June 18 2013 07:27 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 07:25 lim1017 wrote:
This probably means JD wont be returning to Team8 after his year contract with EG. If they are planning to cut 4 players

their star player might be available soon, they're clearing up budget: definitely not going to pick him up

Honestly, with Kespa reasoning, JD is probably one of the 4 "cut" players.

They still consider JD to be "on loan" to EG-TL and part of Team 8's roster. I would not be surprised to see JD "dropped" from Team 8 OR "return" to it.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 04:03:13
June 18 2013 04:02 GMT
#223
On June 18 2013 12:10 Wombat_NI wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Team 8 somewhat subsidised by Kespa? They lack the big name sponsors of the other teams, even a relative noob can see that looking in.

Yes, I think the TL;DR version was that the sponsors for one of the Kespa teams withdrew and the team was basically dead, but that left Proleague with 7 teams, which would have wrecked havoc on the format.

Kespa solved the problem by stepping in, grabbing up an assortment of players (mostly from the dead team but I think there were exceptions), and putting them together as "Team 8".

On the "card" for Team 8 during the "mindmindmind" intro for proleague, it says "Kespa's Team 8".
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
June 18 2013 04:03 GMT
#224
On June 18 2013 12:59 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 07:27 IdrA wrote:
On June 18 2013 07:25 lim1017 wrote:
This probably means JD wont be returning to Team8 after his year contract with EG. If they are planning to cut 4 players

their star player might be available soon, they're clearing up budget: definitely not going to pick him up

Honestly, with Kespa reasoning, JD is probably one of the 4 "cut" players.

They still consider JD to be "on loan" to EG-TL and part of Team 8's roster. I would not be surprised to see JD "dropped" from Team 8 OR "return" to it.


Actually that was never the case. JD belongs in body and soul to EG. That annoucement was wrong and was rescinded within the day.

Body and soul, fellas.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26221 Posts
June 18 2013 04:10 GMT
#225
Is Jaedong actually thought of as a real integral part of the Team 8 fabric? I know from the infamous 'PirateZerg' image that he was at Oz, but does Team 8 really have that kind of link with Jaedong in the eyes of the fans? Do Team 8 even really have a big fanbase if they're kind of a melting pot of various other teams and their players? I really don't know this, so would be interested to hear from some of the BW vets.

If not, I'd love to see him stick with EGTL. He does seem to be actually integrated pretty well there and not just there for the paycheck, and it lets us see a bit more of him at foreign tournaments.

Of course the real dream is an integrated teamleague. I don't know if it'll happen, and I don't think the ESF teams can compete with some of the small rosters given the PL format, but long term I do hope to see it. At this time, LGIM seem the only one that really resembles a big Proleague team, with their deep roster and many sponsors.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
June 18 2013 04:14 GMT
#226
Your move Naniwa.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 04:15:14
June 18 2013 04:15 GMT
#227
On June 18 2013 13:14 MrSexington wrote:
Your move Naniwa.


AllianceNaniwa -> EGNaniwaRC
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jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
June 18 2013 04:55 GMT
#228
Sad soo sad...
EFermi
Profile Joined May 2011
United States165 Posts
June 18 2013 04:58 GMT
#229
On June 18 2013 13:10 Wombat_NI wrote:
Is Jaedong actually thought of as a real integral part of the Team 8 fabric? I know from the infamous 'PirateZerg' image that he was at Oz, but does Team 8 really have that kind of link with Jaedong in the eyes of the fans? Do Team 8 even really have a big fanbase if they're kind of a melting pot of various other teams and their players? I really don't know this, so would be interested to hear from some of the BW vets.

If not, I'd love to see him stick with EGTL. He does seem to be actually integrated pretty well there and not just there for the paycheck, and it lets us see a bit more of him at foreign tournaments.

Of course the real dream is an integrated teamleague. I don't know if it'll happen, and I don't think the ESF teams can compete with some of the small rosters given the PL format, but long term I do hope to see it. At this time, LGIM seem the only one that really resembles a big Proleague team, with their deep roster and many sponsors.


If Team 8 runs out of money, and EGTL decide to not continue, ESF and KESPA would be fools to not combine into one big team league.
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EvanC
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada130 Posts
June 18 2013 05:19 GMT
#230
I really do dream of seeing my favourite ESF teams go up against the powerhouses that are KESPA teams. Cast by Wolf and Khaldor... *drool*
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
June 18 2013 06:27 GMT
#231
On June 18 2013 13:03 Shinespark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 12:59 dcemuser wrote:
On June 18 2013 07:27 IdrA wrote:
On June 18 2013 07:25 lim1017 wrote:
This probably means JD wont be returning to Team8 after his year contract with EG. If they are planning to cut 4 players

their star player might be available soon, they're clearing up budget: definitely not going to pick him up

Honestly, with Kespa reasoning, JD is probably one of the 4 "cut" players.

They still consider JD to be "on loan" to EG-TL and part of Team 8's roster. I would not be surprised to see JD "dropped" from Team 8 OR "return" to it.


Actually that was never the case. JD belongs in body and soul to EG. That annoucement was wrong and was rescinded within the day.

Body and soul, fellas.
I always thought that the recall clause was disclaimed, but no one ever denied that Jaedong was indeed on a 1-year loan.
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Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
June 18 2013 08:30 GMT
#232
He isn't exactly known for being a team player and while Kespa was a dream for him he would have had to be more of a team player than he ever had before. How well did he take being told what to do for 12 hours a day? How well did he handle being told how to play, eat, sleep and exercise? One of the major(not intentional) differences I have noticed with the Kespa players compared to all other is how fit they are and IM being the only esf team that has buff players (and that change only happened after Mvp's injury).

So while it's sad to see Major being kicked out and I wish him all the best I cannot say I am surprised.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
June 18 2013 08:41 GMT
#233
On June 18 2013 17:30 Krogan wrote:
He isn't exactly known for being a team player and while Kespa was a dream for him he would have had to be more of a team player than he ever had before. How well did he take being told what to do for 12 hours a day? How well did he handle being told how to play, eat, sleep and exercise? One of the major(not intentional) differences I have noticed with the Kespa players compared to all other is how fit they are and IM being the only esf team that has buff players (and that change only happened after Mvp's injury).

So while it's sad to see Major being kicked out and I wish him all the best I cannot say I am surprised.


They're cutting 3 other players as well.

An educated guess would be that it has to do with Team 8 doing very poorly on the financial side... zzz
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
TheSayo182
Profile Joined September 2012
Italy243 Posts
June 18 2013 08:46 GMT
#234
is there any possibility of LG-IM joining kespa?
"Remember: Probes & Pylons and when behind Dark Shrine!"
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
June 18 2013 08:53 GMT
#235
On June 18 2013 13:58 EFermi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 13:10 Wombat_NI wrote:
Is Jaedong actually thought of as a real integral part of the Team 8 fabric? I know from the infamous 'PirateZerg' image that he was at Oz, but does Team 8 really have that kind of link with Jaedong in the eyes of the fans? Do Team 8 even really have a big fanbase if they're kind of a melting pot of various other teams and their players? I really don't know this, so would be interested to hear from some of the BW vets.

If not, I'd love to see him stick with EGTL. He does seem to be actually integrated pretty well there and not just there for the paycheck, and it lets us see a bit more of him at foreign tournaments.

Of course the real dream is an integrated teamleague. I don't know if it'll happen, and I don't think the ESF teams can compete with some of the small rosters given the PL format, but long term I do hope to see it. At this time, LGIM seem the only one that really resembles a big Proleague team, with their deep roster and many sponsors.


If Team 8 runs out of money, and EGTL decide to not continue, ESF and KESPA would be fools to not combine into one big team league.

Honestly, I think eSF and KeSPA may be forced to combine team leagues whether they want to or not.

GSTL ends in July, SPL probably ends in July or August. There's a good chance we could see a few disbands or pullouts on both sides.
  • How long is AZUBU going to last under all this controversy?
  • Will EG-TL return next season now that WCS is in full swing?
  • How long can Team 8 last without a sponsor?
Let's not forget a lot of eSF teams are probably hurting now that KeSPA is doing well in WCS and GSTL doesn't schedule teams to play constantly like SPL does. On top of all of this, that eSF-KeSPA trade lock expires in October.

If eSF and KeSPA don't work out a combined team league, things could look really ugly until they do.
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zmsFlood
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland169 Posts
June 18 2013 09:08 GMT
#236
This makes me sad... As it was his dream to play on a KeSPA-team I'm really happy for him that he got the opportunity to do it. Still, too bad they do not have the funds to keep him on the team, I'm sure he's improved a lot and would have kept on improving in Korea. Really hope to see MajOr in some tournaments soon, and see some good results out of him
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KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
June 18 2013 09:11 GMT
#237
Big props for Major to achieving his dream to get on a KeSPA team, and even sticking with it! Hopefully he learned a lot during his stint on the team, and can keep up his level of training and dedication.
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moochu
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia374 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 09:54:56
June 18 2013 09:51 GMT
#238
On June 18 2013 13:02 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 12:10 Wombat_NI wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Team 8 somewhat subsidised by Kespa? They lack the big name sponsors of the other teams, even a relative noob can see that looking in.

Yes, I think the TL;DR version was that the sponsors for one of the Kespa teams withdrew and the team was basically dead, but that left Proleague with 7 teams, which would have wrecked havoc on the format.

Kespa solved the problem by stepping in, grabbing up an assortment of players (mostly from the dead team but I think there were exceptions), and putting them together as "Team 8".

On the "card" for Team 8 during the "mindmindmind" intro for proleague, it says "Kespa's Team 8".


For those not in the know assorted plays from the dead team include symbol, shy, ty and dear. Dammit hwaseung if you only stuck around for another season!
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
June 18 2013 10:07 GMT
#239
IMO we need less fragmentation in the Korean scene right now.

I think the ideal world is NSHS, Prime and T8 disband and their players get spread out, and then GSTL and Proleague merge. It'll make a sick team league that would join eSF and KeSPA as well as making it a lot more appealing to sponsors.
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Swwww
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Switzerland812 Posts
June 18 2013 10:27 GMT
#240
lol

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