EPTOSL Ro32 groups + format - Page 26
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51117 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
that's what he said? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51117 Posts
I read it as will mean less games I'm dumb | ||
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c0olL
129 Posts
On June 13 2013 21:39 BLinD-RawR wrote: some really harsh hate, then again who would stop to consider why OGN is doing it this way. we don't care what is their reason. if you cant cast a normal code S, then don't cast it. leave it to the big boys at gomtv... making stupid thing like bo1 is not an acceptable solution to their problem, whatever it is. | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
OGN basically going against the rules just so it can be different from Gom. I honestly had no thought into this until Khaldor made his video today discussing all the shenanigans gom and ogn pull behind the scenes. | ||
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Champi
1422 Posts
groups a and e are as close as u can get... but still mildly frustrated at the probability that most voters would have seen lifes name and mindlessly clicked it lol i voted for group A because flash and soulkey are bigger names atm than anybody in group e (yes, including life lol) so psyched to see jangbi v fantasy tho. BW OSL finals rematch incoming :D :D :D | ||
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
Edit: Given how many forgettable GSL finals/champions there have been, I don't understand why so many people think the format will guarantee good matchups. The format doesn't make the tournament, nor does it significantly impact the best players. I'll eat my words if Shine wins this OSL in large part due to winning a bo1 in the Ro32 /facetious. | ||
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HeroWeDeserve
69 Posts
On June 13 2013 21:48 neoghaleon55 wrote: does anyone else think Korean Politics blindsided Blizzard? OGN basically going against the rules just so it can be different from Gom. I honestly had no thought into this until Khaldor made his video today discussing all the shenanigans gom and ogn pull behind the scenes. It was in the original WCS announcement that this ro32 would be bo1. The tournament structure has been modeled off of GSL's Code S, Code A, and Code B system and is called Premier, Challenger, and Qualifier. This structure will run for all partners, including MLG and ESL. The Challenger events will run slightly differently in North America and Europe due to logistics in travel. Players will be able to move up and down within their own region as players do in GSL. Only the OSL will have differences, where there will be an additional Round of 32 added on played in a best-of-one format. http://www.gamespot.com/news/blizzard-unveils-revamped-16-million-2013-starcraft-ii-tournament-season-6406325 There will also be a lot more games played during the ro16 than the normal GSL format with round robin bo3 groups and then round robin tiebreakers for those groups | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51117 Posts
On June 13 2013 21:47 c0olL wrote: we don't care what is their reason. if you cant cast a normal code S, then don't cast it. leave it to the big boys at gomtv... making stupid thing like bo1 is not an acceptable solution to their problem, whatever it is. uhh yeah say what you may but OGN is bigger than GOM and pointlessly whining isn't helping, just hope your favorite players make it through to the Ro16. | ||
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Fluffboll
Sweden516 Posts
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c0olL
129 Posts
On June 13 2013 21:54 BLinD-RawR wrote: uhh yeah say what you may but OGN is bigger than GOM and pointlessly whining isn't helping, just hope your favorite players make it through to the Ro16. ok so plz tell me, if they are bigger then gom, why cant they make normal RO32? | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
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Evangelist
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On June 13 2013 21:57 c0olL wrote: ok so plz tell me, if they are bigger then gom, why cant they make normal RO32? GOM is internet channel that runs less things than OGN, which means OGN has less time available for SC2 | ||
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c0olL
129 Posts
On June 13 2013 21:59 opterown wrote: GOM is internet channel that runs less things than OGN, which means OGN has less time available for SC2 so as i said, "if you cant cast a normal code S, then don't cast it. leave it to the big boys at gomtv..." | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On June 13 2013 16:45 DarkLordOlli wrote: I'm just gonna state this every time Bo1 format comes up. I could take first place in a Bo1 group by proxy gating 2 times in a row and hoping my opponents build order lose to it. Mindgames man. In a Bo3+ the possibility of that working is infinitely smaller. Like all the others in this thread, you greatly overestimate the power of the most basic cheeses. No they're not insta-wins, they're actually quite risky, and people do it only when they know in advance what kind of build/scout pattern their opponent is more likely to use (proxy gating Jaedong for example was a solid build not long ago :D). My theory is that all this hate for Bo1 is also a by-product of all of you fine folks' ladder frustrations. You get cheesed on ladder, you're bad so you lose to it (we all do), and you say to yourself "I was probably the better player, good thing that mofo cheesed because in a Bo3 he would have had no chance, he must only go for that cheese anyway!". We don't get to play Bo3 on ladder (most of the time), so for every loss you experience by losing to whatever, you feel like it's partly due to Bo1: if the guy did it again you would be ready this time! Well guys sorry, proxy gate doesn't actually have a 90% winrate (legend that runs on ladder), or even 50% (IdrA theory of SC2), it's more like 20%, something you use when you know it's acceptable to even have 20% winrate against a far better player than you. So granted, we will probably see one or two of the super-strong guys fall to a somewhat silly build, but all the others will be ready. And don't forget that it's still double elimination. On June 13 2013 21:39 Pegas wrote: For the sake of arguing : If you would play vs Flash in a bo1 with money/points on the line, would you try to cheese him or would you play your macro game? Also look from a statistical pov how many games bo1 ended up in a cheese if you want to argue on this more. It's the fucking same in Bo3 man. Of course the lesser player isn't going to attempt to play Flash in a macro game if he wants to win some money in the end. The valid concern is: does it significantly statistically prevent Flash from going up? The answer is: not that much, he's still the favorite by a lot :D | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On June 13 2013 22:00 c0olL wrote: so as i said, "if you cant cast a normal code S, then don't cast it. leave it to the big boys at gomtv..." but they're not running a code S, they're running an OSL | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Mistake to give it to OGN to be honest if they can't manage to run BO3s in the RO32. Its a simple matter of consistency in the format. It should be running exactly the same as how GOM just ran the first season; no changes. | ||
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c0olL
129 Posts
On June 13 2013 22:02 opterown wrote: but they're not running a code S, they're running an OSL then fuck them and fuck OSL, we want code S back. | ||
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
On June 13 2013 22:07 c0olL wrote: then fuck them and fuck OSL, we want code S back. Ah yes, Code S the home of one-and-dones such as Seed, Sniper and jjakji vs. OSL stomping grounds of the likes of Nada, oov, flash, JD, Jangbang, etc. The format does not make a tournament, the players and the game do. | ||
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