EPTCriticism on the state of SC2 coverage - Page 10
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crbox
Canada1181 Posts
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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MrGh0st
United States35 Posts
Actually I was being serious  I don't understand why these Casters have a place in competitive gaming. My question is along the lines of "Why do I need someone telling me whats happening on a screen when I'm clearly able to see it myself"? | ||
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yOngKIN
Korea (North)656 Posts
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Zrana
United Kingdom698 Posts
On June 15 2013 00:07 MrGh0st wrote: Actually I was being serious I don't understand why these Casters have a place in competitive gaming. My question is along the lines of "Why do I need someone telling me whats happening on a screen when I'm clearly able to see it myself"? I kind of agree actually. With the GSL i like artosis and tasteless because they spend very little time actually talking about the game, and to me the real caster is ST_Legend, who generally misses, like, nothing. Tastosis is just some mildy amusing background noise while the starcraft happens. Lots of people really like it when an informed player like idra commentates a tournament, and (excuse my rampant elitism) i would love to see tournaments have a stream for the bronzies with the "fun" casters and a stream with a player who knows about the game, but doesnt do all the shouting and instead just provides some extra insight for the people who actually play the game on a regular basis. | ||
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Apolo
Portugal1259 Posts
On June 14 2013 05:39 MrGh0st wrote: Why do we need Casters at all? I would like to think we're all intelligent enough to be able to look at a stream and go "Hey, that guy is building a barracks. Now he's building a Reaper. Heeeyyy he's going to open reaper harass!" Why do we need vocally offensive manchildren to shout it into a Mic? I've never understood the concept. And, from what Iv'e gathered from everyone's posts here, these "Casters" don't even know the game, let alone understand it.. When i listen to a caster i want to feel excitment when it is due (not a random storm / forcefield and call it "awesome" "soo good" etc. People are not that stupid, we can feel when it is insincere or forced) and also to have a deeper understanding of what is going on. My noob strategy and knowledge of starcraft is not enough to comprehend the deep levels of thinking these pros are using in the game, so i hope caster will shed a light on that. I also like to hear statistics about the player, the maps, information about the venue, predictions based on them, and so on. | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3815 Posts
Thanks for taking a dump on the massive amount of work we do, free of charge with no ads on the site though. Also lol at saying we know nothing about the game, I probably watch more starcraft after joining than I ever did before. | ||
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SinCitta
Germany2127 Posts
On June 15 2013 01:08 Grovbolle wrote: We provide a service that some like, and some dislike. It is up to casters to make the stats relevant, although we try to help them out with good presentation, search options etc. Thanks for taking a dump on the massive amount of work we do, free of charge with no ads on the site though. Also lol at saying we know nothing about the game, I probably watch more starcraft after joining than I ever did before. This is absolutely not what I wanted to say. I love what you guys are doing. The criticism was on how the stats are used by content producers. The "know nothing about the game" part isn't about you guys that are involved, it's about the statistical methodology. If I am not mistaken, your data points are only about who wins against who with what result on what map when. And you categorize the "who" in race and nationality. It doesn't argue about which build is best against a particular player, how the different styles of the players match up against another etc., which is way more faulty and subjective, but also more fun! This is nothing against the very powerful statistical approach you are taking. It is about that coverage should go beyond that. | ||
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trudodyr
182 Posts
On June 08 2013 05:52 Sein wrote: A bit strange you mention Tasteless as someone you enjoy because you agree with the criticisms in the OP when he probably is the epitome of the examples listed in OP. Yup, that was puzzling to me as well. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6566 Posts
On June 15 2013 00:07 MrGh0st wrote: Actually I was being serious I don't understand why these Casters have a place in competitive gaming. My question is along the lines of "Why do I need someone telling me whats happening on a screen when I'm clearly able to see it myself"? i've been thinking about this for a while. at least a cast with minimal talking. just a very good observer and some one to note any deviations from standard play. like people have been saying, the casters will never improve because they have no incentive to. it wasn't more than a few months ago that jorosar yelled on stream because a player with carriers was 'wasting' his interceptors on larva. and people still hire him | ||
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