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SC2 Power Rank - June 2013 - Page 3

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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 00:45:29
June 05 2013 00:41 GMT
#41
Symbol above RorO, Life and sOs?

i strongly disagree.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
mechengineer123
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine711 Posts
June 05 2013 00:42 GMT
#42
Pleasantly surprised by innovation on #1. I expected it to be a thoughtless "soulkey won gsl so he's #1" ending, but the writers are actually rational people it seems!
Quakecomm
Profile Joined April 2012
United States344 Posts
June 05 2013 00:46 GMT
#43
um wasn't it INnoVation 3:4 Soulkey?
gorkey island is the only good map
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
June 05 2013 00:47 GMT
#44
iam so happy we have players like innovation, flash, life
Tho, I wish we could see more of Life. Seen so little these past 2-3months, skillwise where is he in present? No idea actually.

We also have Soulkey, i have not seen so much of him tbh. From what ive seen seems to me he is fun to watch to not only gameplay wise but also skillwise

All these players are gameplaywise fun and skillwise fun!
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 00:47:56
June 05 2013 00:47 GMT
#45
On June 05 2013 09:26 petered wrote:
I agree completely with Innovation over Soulkey. People put too much weight on the championship games. Innovation has been consistently better than Soulkey. Not to take away from his big win or anything, SK definitely deserved it. Still, Innovation is the clear #1 player right now.

Also, since this is the power rank I think the list looks good. Personally, I think Life is better than the two zergs above him, but he hasn't justified it for this rank.

So glad this feature is back!

I don't feel strongly about where to put 1 and 2 on this powerrank, but I think not choking has always been really important to powerrank in BW. Comparing soulkey to those players was also not fair, since in BW soulkey was extremely formidable and consistent. I think 1 and 2 are closer than the powerrank lets on, but I don't despise how they ended up ordering them. If we are talking purely about consistency, Flash is in the running too. Getting knocked out early is something that can happen to anyone. It definitely matters a lot to go deep in individual leagues in terms of our perceptions of player skill. Innovation's games vs Flash weren't quite walk overs.
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Pros
Profile Joined February 2011
219 Posts
June 05 2013 00:47 GMT
#46
oh my god yes!!! powerranking!! :D
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 05 2013 00:47 GMT
#47
Well, props for doing a Power Ranking, though it's exceedingly difficult to do, especially given how fragmented the scene is. But overall, it's a pretty non-controversial ranking, but I expect some shakeups come the season finals.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
June 05 2013 00:47 GMT
#48
On June 05 2013 09:39 Redrot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 09:16 Arisen wrote:
i disagree with soulkey vs innovation. People dick ride innovation way to hard. I think soulkey justified himself as a really great player under pressure and innovation proved that he needs to work on that part of his game. Innovation might have looked more dominant in the games he won, but I think soulkey proved to be the better all around player


Also as a zerg player, I feel like zerg is still a bit underpowered. Yes, I know that a zerg just won GSL again, but the overall tournament winrates state otherwise.

Also, I would like to see matches between Losira/Kangho, HerO, and Mvp, because that is an extremely close call imo. Normally I would say HerO would lose, but he has been doing great recently.

At least give some reasons as to why you want to call zerg underpowered, or else prepare for a shelling. Besides, please don't bring in balance into a power rank. There are many consistently top performing zergs, just because they don't actually win the whole tournament it doesn't mean they are underpowered. Besides, the game is still being figured out.

Do not agree with Hero at #10 at all, mvp has a much better claim imo. However I would definitely pick Innovation over Soulkey. His wins all the way to the finals were in dominating fashion. Soulkey got there on a series of close shaves and narrow victories. No doubt soulkey is still an excellent player and easily #2 in my book, but really you'd have to be biased to think he can really beat an Innovation in top form.

Hope to see Life rise back to top5, or maybe even top 3. Was so impressed with him after the first HotS MLG.
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
June 05 2013 00:48 GMT
#49
So cool to see power rankings for Sc2! Thank youuuuuuu. Glad to see some Symbol love, too.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
June 05 2013 00:48 GMT
#50
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ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1232 Posts
June 05 2013 00:48 GMT
#51
RorO, Symbol might be a bit too high up on the list, Losira should be on the list, pretty damn solid list otherwise
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_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
June 05 2013 00:51 GMT
#52
Innovation over Soulkey shouldn't be in the least bit controversial. Some people will argue it all the same but I think its clear who the best HoTs player is right now and it isn't the GSL champion. In fact the GSL champion didn't really look better than any of the last 3 players he faced in the GSL, he just happened to win the final game in each one. You might say that is "clutch" but really it mostly comes down to variance.
Red and yellow are all I see
ColaDragon
Profile Joined October 2012
4 Posts
June 05 2013 00:52 GMT
#53
[QUOTE]On June 05 2013 09:16 Arisen wrote:
''
but I think soulkey proved to be the better all around player''. No this list is right. Innovation deserves to be in the number one place. Better all around player, are you kidding? Soulkey did the same roach bane all-in and that makes him all around player? lol. facepalm..
URLateral
Profile Joined October 2012
275 Posts
June 05 2013 00:54 GMT
#54
Hero deserves 10
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 05 2013 00:55 GMT
#55
On June 05 2013 09:16 Scville wrote:
Why Hero > Kangho and MVP?

Kangho almost won vs SoS and he 3-0'ed Bomber

I know, Hero is from teamliquid but come on lol, no way he is the 10th best player in the world.

''Life's only results this month were losing to NAKSEO in the GSTL and 2 - 0ing MarineKing in GSL. (But at this point, is 2 - 0ing MarineKing in ZvT really an accomplishment?)''

Of course, Life didn't play anything else.

HerO should be ranked higher than Mvp. However, He should probably be behind Bomber and Kangho.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 05 2013 00:57 GMT
#56
Oh shit here we go again. >_<
SAFenix
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada439 Posts
June 05 2013 00:57 GMT
#57
Why does the #1 spot say INnoVation? Fail auto-correct from Bisu? :O
mYi.Rain | SKT1.soO
bludragen88
Profile Joined August 2008
United States527 Posts
June 05 2013 00:58 GMT
#58
On June 05 2013 09:11 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
But the one result that really defined RorO this month was his 0 - 3 loss to Innovation. Especially in the first game where both players played the most standard openings you could ask for, Innovation showed that he was clearly and definitively better at RorO's supposed greatest strength: solid macro play. This sudden realization alone must have been a blow to Symbol's pride.


Amazing how much a little random variation can change the entire narrative about a player. Imagine if the GSL finals between Innovation and Soulkey were a bo5 - would this paragraph be under Soulkey's entry as well? What if Roro and Innovation played in a bo7 instead and he also pulled off the 4-3 comeback?

Not as bad as what happens in some team sports (see http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8842329/bill-barnwell-weekend-divisional-games) because at least the players have no one to blame for getting 3-0ed or reverse 4-0ed in these cases, but still an interesting thought experiment.
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
June 05 2013 00:58 GMT
#59
Liquid is biased as always

Jurgen>Hero on any day

Other than that completely agree..
DRTnOOber
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
New Zealand476 Posts
June 05 2013 00:58 GMT
#60
Top 4 all KeSPA players, I know it's been a year but I'm still impressed they're already dominating the SC2 pro scene so convincingly.

I definitely agree with HerO for #10. His results in Proleague have been fantastic, and winning WCS America + placing high in Dreamhack show he's just on form at the moment and playing really consistently.
But I'm off creep... and so I slow down, what are hellions doing here? I don't belong here...
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