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SC2 Power Rank - June 2013 - Page 2

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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 00:27:54
June 05 2013 00:26 GMT
#21
Good to see it back. I expect it to be way more controversial than the BW power ranks, I think ranks are much, much more arbitrary here due to the amount of tournaments going on and since cross-ranking is pretty much impossible.

Judging from the Korean pre- and post-GSL interviews, the Korean scene would probably have put Soulkey ahead of Innovation.
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
June 05 2013 00:27 GMT
#22
There should be a tournament with all these guys. :/
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
June 05 2013 00:27 GMT
#23
innovation is the obvious choice imo. he fell apart in 1 series. he's a fucking beast (soulkey is amazing, but goddamn innovation).
The universe created an audience for itself.
andrewnguyener
Profile Joined March 2011
United States548 Posts
June 05 2013 00:27 GMT
#24
I agree with Innovation being #1. His play has just been stellar and he's set himself apart from the others.

I don't agree with HerO over Mvp though.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
June 05 2013 00:27 GMT
#25
Agreed with it all except Hero at #10. There was hardly any serious competition in WCS America, just look at how deep Revival went.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
June 05 2013 00:30 GMT
#26
On June 05 2013 09:27 EnumaAvalon wrote:
There should be a tournament with all these guys. :/


there kinda is... at least most of em
the season finals
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 00:30:24
June 05 2013 00:30 GMT
#27
On June 05 2013 09:27 Scarecrow wrote:
Agreed with it all except Hero at #10. There was hardly any serious competition in WCS America, just look at how deep Revival went.


I would agree if WCS NA was hero's only accomplishment this month. He has been one of the top performers in SPL, matching and even outdoing many of the players on the list. He is by far the best choice for that spot imo.
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necrosexy
Profile Joined March 2011
451 Posts
June 05 2013 00:32 GMT
#28
the #1 player in the world doesn't choke from being up 3-0 in a bo7.
when it mattered the most, Innovation faltered.
Tachyon
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark146 Posts
June 05 2013 00:32 GMT
#29
Awesome that this is back, all I wish is that Flash becomes as good at SC2 as he was in BW.... Gogo Starcraft!
I shall be telling this with a sigh somewhere ages and ages hence: Two roads diverged in a wood, and I— I took the one less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 00:33:20
June 05 2013 00:33 GMT
#30
On June 05 2013 09:30 petered wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 09:27 Scarecrow wrote:
Agreed with it all except Hero at #10. There was hardly any serious competition in WCS America, just look at how deep Revival went.


I would agree if WCS NA was hero's only accomplishment this month. He has been one of the top performers in SPL, matching and even outdoing many of the players on the list. He is by far the best choice for that spot imo.

Eh, he's 6-4 in Proleague in May, it's not bad but it's not groundbreaking either. TY, Zest or free have far better records.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 00:47:22
June 05 2013 00:35 GMT
#31
On June 05 2013 09:26 teddyoojo wrote:
you are not seriously putting soulkey in the same drawer with jjakji sniper and seed.........
also symbol in top50 LOL
and kangho not in ~~~~

No. Hell no, I would never consider any of the three close to as good as Soulkey... Which is why I said that the GSL finals means a lot less than people think, since all 3 of them have won a GSL finals. Now, Soulkey is incredibly good, but despite taking a WCS KR finals, I'd still rank Innovation above him.

On June 05 2013 09:32 necrosexy wrote:
the #1 player in the world doesn't choke from being up 3-0 in a bo7.
when it mattered the most, Innovation faltered.

Just wait till this upcoming weekend. After all, the upcoming season finals has a higher prize pool!! (Though, I think we can safely say that the KR Ro16 is considerably stronger than the season finals Ro16!). But, assuming Soulkey and Innovation both do well (Innovation is going to ezmode his group btw, 3 zergs? Oh god...) there SHOULD be a rematch. If there isn't a rematch, it's because either one or both of the players dropped out to a lesser player.

Another thing worth noting for the Soulkey vs Innovation rank 1 debate...
In chess, when a player wins a tournament, he doesn't suddenly become the best player in the world, even though he beat everyone else in a series. That's what the purpose of the rankings are. FIDE rankings for Chess
Winning a series is important, but if you lose every other game to the guy, then it doesn't mean that much. Of course, Soulkey has proved that he can stand against Innovation, but there are just too few games between the two to rely solely on the WCS KR finals. Innovation's wins against others trumps the 4-3 victory Soulkey had.
YourAdHere
Profile Joined May 2011
United States216 Posts
June 05 2013 00:35 GMT
#32
YES. Power rankings is easily the greatest part about sports
scCassius
Profile Joined March 2011
United States254 Posts
June 05 2013 00:35 GMT
#33
POWER RAAAAAAANK!
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 00:36:17
June 05 2013 00:35 GMT
#34
Sweet, power ranks! =D

Pretty much agree with the placements, although it's weird seeing Life so low.
palifaith
Profile Joined June 2012
United States6 Posts
June 05 2013 00:36 GMT
#35
where's bisu
Skytt
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland333 Posts
June 05 2013 00:37 GMT
#36
Soulkey has been one of the best players all year in the SPL, he has been consistent in code S but will he continue to perform at this level??????
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 00:38:09
June 05 2013 00:38 GMT
#37
On June 05 2013 09:36 palifaith wrote:
where's bisu

practicing LotV alpha to get a headstart
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
June 05 2013 00:38 GMT
#38
Flash is going to be #1 .... soon
Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
June 05 2013 00:39 GMT
#39
On June 05 2013 09:16 Arisen wrote:
i disagree with soulkey vs innovation. People dick ride innovation way to hard. I think soulkey justified himself as a really great player under pressure and innovation proved that he needs to work on that part of his game. Innovation might have looked more dominant in the games he won, but I think soulkey proved to be the better all around player


^This. This this this. Innovation may be able to win in an all out macro game most of the time, but that doesn't by any means mean that he is a better player. I think that what is even more impressive was the comeback, no ordinary player, and not Innovation, would be able to have held his cool. In the previous GSL matches with Innovation, he never was actually tested by being down in a series, or by having early pressure applied to the extend Soulkey did. If Innovation were to work on reacting to early pressure, then perhaps I would understand putting him as #1. rOrO's games were mostly macro oriented, and the games Innovation lost to Soulkey were early pressure.

Also as a zerg player, I feel like zerg is still a bit underpowered. Yes, I know that a zerg just won GSL again, but the overall tournament winrates state otherwise.

Also, I would like to see matches between Losira/Kangho, HerO, and Mvp, because that is an extremely close call imo. Normally I would say HerO would lose, but he has been doing great recently.
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
June 05 2013 00:41 GMT
#40
On June 05 2013 09:39 Redrot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 09:16 Arisen wrote:
i disagree with soulkey vs innovation. People dick ride innovation way to hard. I think soulkey justified himself as a really great player under pressure and innovation proved that he needs to work on that part of his game. Innovation might have looked more dominant in the games he won, but I think soulkey proved to be the better all around player


Also, I would like to see matches between Losira/Kangho, HerO, and Mvp, because that is an extremely close call imo. Normally I would say HerO would lose, but he has been doing great recently.


Honestly in my mind TY would beat them all, but having absolutely 0 success outside of proleague is killing him.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
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