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LucifroN & VortiX join mousesports - Page 10

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Chaper
Profile Joined January 2013
Spain45 Posts
May 30 2013 18:49 GMT
#181
Nobody expects the durán inquisition! :O
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
May 30 2013 18:49 GMT
#182
Holy shit, this is sick!
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 30 2013 18:50 GMT
#183
Hoooooly fuuuuuuck
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
May 30 2013 18:50 GMT
#184
Nice, gratz to both parties !

I would be interested to know how the their brother, the Karont3 manager feels about this.
They are a family.
https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
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KingMel
Profile Joined July 2012
France120 Posts
May 30 2013 18:50 GMT
#185
On May 31 2013 03:40 Zaphid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 03:34 KingMel wrote:
Why ?
Please, I just want to know why ?

I don't want to be spoilsport, but this is very bad.
VortiX and LucifroN have been refusing the offer of many team (Team Liquid and EG are probably two of them). By staying with Karont3, they maintained an image of Spanish Armada refusing to play for money. They were the two captains of a small team and they were considered as they two best foreigners.
But now, this pick just ruined everything.

The Spanish Armada and Karont3 e-sport will never be the same again...

Because if you want to play full time, you need to eat, so you need better contracts and they outgrew Karont3. It happens all the time, Thorzain and Praetoriani (which died after he left), Snute and Gamer's League...

Players deserve the best contracts possible and this is a competitive market, just like any other sport.



Karont3 is far from being in lack of money, on the contrary.
For the number of Sc2 players they have, they got an incredible amount of sponsors and money (Ozone, Versus Gamers, Twitch...) + all the money VortiX & LucifroN win in online tournaments...
If you add the fact that the team manager, Ryo, is the third Duran brother, this is just toally incomprehensible.

Really, I think this trade is a bad idea.
BaltA
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Norway849 Posts
May 30 2013 18:51 GMT
#186
This is amazing!!
Vorhard
Profile Joined February 2010
Spain9 Posts
May 30 2013 18:52 GMT
#187
Sad news for karonte
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
May 30 2013 18:53 GMT
#188
On May 31 2013 03:46 Boucot wrote:
By the way, does anyone know why mouz didn't send MaNa two matches in a row in TeamStory Cup ? Seems weird.


Can only speculate, but his WCS group is on june 4th; I would assume , that he is hiding builds for this.
jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
May 30 2013 18:53 GMT
#189
Wow!
a3den
Profile Joined April 2012
704 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 18:54:33
May 30 2013 18:53 GMT
#190
On May 31 2013 03:50 KingMel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 03:40 Zaphid wrote:
On May 31 2013 03:34 KingMel wrote:
Why ?
Please, I just want to know why ?

I don't want to be spoilsport, but this is very bad.
VortiX and LucifroN have been refusing the offer of many team (Team Liquid and EG are probably two of them). By staying with Karont3, they maintained an image of Spanish Armada refusing to play for money. They were the two captains of a small team and they were considered as they two best foreigners.
But now, this pick just ruined everything.

The Spanish Armada and Karont3 e-sport will never be the same again...

Because if you want to play full time, you need to eat, so you need better contracts and they outgrew Karont3. It happens all the time, Thorzain and Praetoriani (which died after he left), Snute and Gamer's League...

Players deserve the best contracts possible and this is a competitive market, just like any other sport.



Karont3 is far from being in lack of money, on the contrary.
For the number of Sc2 players they have, they got an incredible amount of sponsors and money (Ozone, Versus Gamers, Twitch...) + all the money VortiX & LucifroN win in online tournaments...
If you add the fact that the team manager, Ryo, is the third Duran brother, this is just toally incomprehensible.

Really, I think this trade is a bad idea.


Number of sponsorship <> amount of money they get from sponsorships. And K3 is not only a Sc2 team, they've got rosters for other games.

If K3 doesn't allow them to go to all the tournaments they want to participate in, it's the right move for them.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 30 2013 18:54 GMT
#191
woah, that's big. can't help but wonder about Karont3, especially considering their brother is the manager, but mouz is gonna be sick city now. funny thing is they are instantly pretty much the best two players on a team that was already very strong (well, Mana might be stronger than Vortix).
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
May 30 2013 18:54 GMT
#192
On May 31 2013 03:50 KingMel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 03:40 Zaphid wrote:
On May 31 2013 03:34 KingMel wrote:
Why ?
Please, I just want to know why ?

I don't want to be spoilsport, but this is very bad.
VortiX and LucifroN have been refusing the offer of many team (Team Liquid and EG are probably two of them). By staying with Karont3, they maintained an image of Spanish Armada refusing to play for money. They were the two captains of a small team and they were considered as they two best foreigners.
But now, this pick just ruined everything.

The Spanish Armada and Karont3 e-sport will never be the same again...

Because if you want to play full time, you need to eat, so you need better contracts and they outgrew Karont3. It happens all the time, Thorzain and Praetoriani (which died after he left), Snute and Gamer's League...

Players deserve the best contracts possible and this is a competitive market, just like any other sport.



Karont3 is far from being in lack of money, on the contrary.
For the number of Sc2 players they have, they got an incredible amount of sponsors and money (Ozone, Versus Gamers, Twitch...) + all the money VortiX & LucifroN win in online tournaments...
If you add the fact that the team manager, Ryo, is the third Duran brother, this is just toally incomprehensible.

Really, I think this trade is a bad idea.

mouz is by far richer than K3. Not even close.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Arvediu
Profile Joined December 2011
Spain69 Posts
May 30 2013 18:54 GMT
#193
Really sad news for karont3 and the Spanish SC2 scene in general...

Best of luck for both brothers.
RespectTheNerd
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden64 Posts
May 30 2013 18:54 GMT
#194
Damn! not sure If this is good or bad in the long term sure Mouz is stronger then ever but on the other hand Karont3 goes back into obscurity. I would like to see more strong teams instead of every good player being packed into the aldready huge powerhouse teams.
I cant sleep, Have u tried dreaming? Cause when im dreaming im usually asleep.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
May 30 2013 18:54 GMT
#195
Wow ... this is a HUGE movie for mousesports and completely unexpected.

Congratulations to mousesports and the brothers.
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
AwesomeFossum
Profile Joined February 2013
United States312 Posts
May 30 2013 18:54 GMT
#196
Great pickups! Congrats!
"The greatest athletes of all time... Michael Jordan, Roger Federer, and SlayerSBoxer." - Artosis
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10154 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 19:14:59
May 30 2013 18:55 GMT
#197
Mind my weak translation.

Karont3 Razor¨

There must be only a few things more painful for a club than say goodbye to two figures so representative for the team, both of them have carried the banner and colours of Karont3 e-Sports Club beyond what i migh have dreamed, literally around the world. It's going to take time to associate the name Moreno Durán to a club which isn't Karont3.

But it is time to put the feet on the ground, karont3 is a young club with a spectacular tour in a short lapse of time, but humble, withouth the resources of the "great" right now. The weight of the organization is sustained by two persons with the support of their sponsors Ozone and Versus Gamers, players, contributors, and their fanbase.

Both, Pedro and Juan betted from the beginning for this project...
... but the opportunities do not always come, and being realistic the things are not that well to turn its back to some offers.

from the club we mourn their departure, but we can only feel happy for them, and wish them the best of lucks to LucifroN and VortiX, Karont3 e-Sports Club will forever have its doors open to "the brothers" that had gave us so many joys...



There is not much to tell, short story, the offer was too good to pass, no hard feelings. Best hopes for them.

The four interviews are pretty much about it being a bittersweet feeling for all of them, thanks to team mates and hoping the best of luck to all of them.
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
May 30 2013 18:55 GMT
#198
now they have a non-korean only GREAT team.
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
DBS
Profile Joined July 2012
515 Posts
May 30 2013 18:57 GMT
#199
Well, that changes the Acer Team challenge a good bit, Now it's team Socke in second place, and mouz is gonna be SSSSSSSOOOOOOOO strong. Might even be able to beat MVP
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
LuckyGnomTV
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Russian Federation367 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 18:58:37
May 30 2013 18:58 GMT
#200
WATAFAK?!
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