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LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
May 28 2013 19:47 GMT
#101
On May 29 2013 00:18 BisuDagger wrote:
I feel like if Bisu and BeSt didn't get paid so much theyor if they were on CJ entus they would have retired by now too. SC2 protoss is a completely different game then Sc1 protoss. It makes me sad so many greats have retired now. The old guard is almost extinct from PL now. Only 3 dragons remain.

huh..
Best, Bisu, Stork, Jangbi, Free are still playing
Kal is in the military.

most of the dragons are still intact
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19398 Posts
May 28 2013 20:33 GMT
#102
On May 29 2013 04:47 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 00:18 BisuDagger wrote:
I feel like if Bisu and BeSt didn't get paid so much theyor if they were on CJ entus they would have retired by now too. SC2 protoss is a completely different game then Sc1 protoss. It makes me sad so many greats have retired now. The old guard is almost extinct from PL now. Only 3 dragons remain.

huh..
Best, Bisu, Stork, Jangbi, Free are still playing
Kal is in the military.

most of the dragons are still intact

Yeah your right I wrote that much to early in the morning. We only ever see jangbi, free, and stork
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
May 28 2013 22:49 GMT
#103
Oh Snow; I remember you as a new comer and pillar for CJ
Bringing Jaedong to the fifth set of the ro8 and pulling games off Flash;
You'll be missed
Oh how I miss the proleague of old
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
May 29 2013 02:29 GMT
#104
Such a shame. He could have really been the next big protoss in bw. I remember him taking JD to game 5 in the ro8 (or ro4) in some MSL.... GREAT multitasking
Jaedong.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
May 29 2013 02:32 GMT
#105
Hopefully we'll get to see him play more BW soon. In any case, good luck Snow! I liked seeing your games.
May the BeSt man win.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
May 29 2013 02:38 GMT
#106
On May 29 2013 11:32 Djabanete wrote:
Hopefully we'll get to see him play more BW soon. In any case, good luck Snow! I liked seeing your games.

Fingers crossed
Jaedong.
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
May 29 2013 02:45 GMT
#107
With the emergence of CJ's hero i almost forgot about snow.

Kinda sad now that I think of it though :[ CJ had that siiiiiiiiick deep line-up in BW.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 29 2013 02:46 GMT
#108
Sucks, but the turnover in e-sports is huge. Your peak doesn't last long and for every Snow that retires, you'll have a promising rookie like Bunny to take his place. Outside of the outliers like Flash, Fantasy, etc., the cycle will continue on and on, old players like Calm retiring and going into a coaching role, and new players taking over for the people who left their spot behind. Even if guys like Hoejja and Best aren't really doing much, if they do retire, I'm sure they'd just become apart of the coaching staff of their team due to their longevity and leadership.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 29 2013 02:53 GMT
#109
Makes me sad to see all these BW people retiring. =/

I still remember that ace game where he crushed Flash and started his ace game losing streak. Gave me nightmares.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19398 Posts
May 29 2013 03:07 GMT
#110
On May 29 2013 11:53 Holgerius wrote:
Makes me sad to see all these BW people retiring. =/

I still remember that ace game where he crushed Flash and started his ace game losing streak. Gave me nightmares.

Why am I always surprised you are a kt fan? Such a shame. You had so much potential as a skt fan. The choice is always yours.
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trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
May 29 2013 03:11 GMT
#111
free and jangbi are solid at sc2. stork and bisu tho
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
May 29 2013 03:19 GMT
#112
Will always remember CJ Snow for his Bo5 with Jaedong and because of that I think it such a shame that professional bw wasn't maintain in korea despite the change for sc2 . Anyway good hunting snow and hope you will be successful in life in your studies and working career .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-29 05:14:44
May 29 2013 05:14 GMT
#113
On May 29 2013 11:53 Holgerius wrote:
Makes me sad to see all these BW people retiring. =/

I still remember that ace game where he crushed Flash and started his ace game losing streak. Gave me nightmares.

It wasn't that bad of a streak.
Flash fans just had it too good for too long so that even 2-3 losses looked bad .
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-29 17:25:36
May 29 2013 09:58 GMT
#114
On May 29 2013 11:46 Fionn wrote:
Sucks, but the turnover in e-sports is huge. Your peak doesn't last long and for every Snow that retires, you'll have a promising rookie like Bunny to take his place. Outside of the outliers like Flash, Fantasy, etc., the cycle will continue on and on, old players like Calm retiring and going into a coaching role, and new players taking over for the people who left their spot behind. Even if guys like Hoejja and Best aren't really doing much, if they do retire, I'm sure they'd just become apart of the coaching staff of their team due to their longevity and leadership.

What you say is natural but some of retirements lately were simply based on game transitioning not on natural flow you described . Some players played great BW 2 weeks before their transition to SC2, after the transition they are 'noobs', its re-specialization problem they are facing right now. Its kind of sad to see players from Tving RO4 play mediocre SC2 for their potential (zero, Jangbi, Fanta).

This is highly annoying as a fan of such players, you loved them for their games in other game, and now you have to see them struggle, what conclusion such fun has to make? That they are not as good in adaptation as others?

The same happened in CS GO, arguably the most dominant teams in latest years gets picked apart like noobs by guys they used to beat. "They adapted better".

edit: Terrible mistakes cleared
Stork[gm]
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 29 2013 12:35 GMT
#115
yea that snow jd series was so awesome

gl hf outside of star
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
May 29 2013 12:43 GMT
#116


Best of luck to you.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3475 Posts
May 29 2013 13:06 GMT
#117
Snow vs Jaedong in ABC MSL was the best BW series in recent history. You will be missed.
khaydarin9
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia423 Posts
May 29 2013 13:29 GMT
#118
Sad news. Good luck, Snow - you will be missed!
Be safe, Woo Jung Ho <3
LTY
Profile Joined November 2012
United States223 Posts
May 29 2013 13:41 GMT
#119
dam, one of my favorite player in bw, hope to seem him in SSL for sure.
Known as Miso or LTY
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
May 29 2013 17:13 GMT
#120
Snow

Favourite CJ protoss, and he gave some really great games. Now both starting CJ protosses are gone.
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