Argo and Flash and sOs are most likely to be fielded, but I haven't really gone into the lineups yet, so those could change. JYP and Bear are cheap but could play. herO is on all of my teams regardless of price because he is awesome.
My anti-team could probably use some improvement.
Changes: Iteration 1: -Changed JYP to hyvaa -Changed Flash to Zest -Changed Bear to Swift -Changed Stats to Bravo (anti) Reason: Flash is vulnerable to being sniped since his playstyle is a bit predictable and he did get knocked out of GSL/WCS. hyvaa is about three times as likely as JYP to actually win a game. This left me with 4 protoss and 2 zerg so I changed bear to swift, who is on WJS and will probably get me points!! Anti: Bravo is a second string on a team that is good at everything. Might change since WJS will win about every game.
Iteration 2: -Changed Bravo to Kop (anti) -Changed bbyong to free (anti)
Both of the terrans I had were the first tier terrans on their respective teams. Kop and free are much less likely to see playing time, since Flying is much better than free and Kop is really Khan's 5th or 6th best player, behind JangBi, Reality, RorO, and Stork. I might change them again... but not yet.
3-points and up, I always look for bargains. I'm pretty sure all of these guys get to play twice in the first week. Also chose players from as many teams as possible so I can trade whoever plays only once next week. The other trade I can use to get a higher value player if someone happens to overperform. Now the anti-team I'm not happy with, but these guys shouldn't get more than 2 wins ever in one match. I'm scared of Mini though. *This statement is a lie
i doubt bisu will play much once again hyvaa has been mediocre from what i've seen jaedong, dont know if he'll be used to snipe zergs with his godly zvz but i'm certain he will be sniped by protoss
My main team has the two safety nets of parting/innovation. Innovation will obviously tear people apart while due to recent results I've decided that parting may go big this round. Revival/Oz/Effort are kind of fillers they'll all probably get solid amount of play time and grab a decent portion of the wins. Puzzle/KT is my real gamble though, KT still feels kind of top heavy but in WL top heavy is normally enough puzzle however is the real risk I've either wasted points on someone who doesn't come out at all due to his recent return or he proves himself enough quickly to get a regular rotation.
I dunno how I got an all protoss anti they felt like some average enough players to fill out an anti without too much risk.
Here's my team of my favorite ace players - since it is the all kill format now - minus Jangbi. It's not going to win anything, but I'll have fun cheering for it. Flash is mandatory pick for me. Fantasy and Innovation are just always so entertaining to watch. Then there's Bisu. He was actually a pretty good pick last round, but he's competing with a lot of protosses on the SKT lineup. Still, we'll see him play at least a couple of times, I'd reckon.
Anti is pretty random. Picked some players who just aren't aces, and will probably not see a lot of play time.
no idea what i'm doing yet, got this out before i have to go to work. any thoughts/comments? hrm
Do you see any benefits to getting Jangbi over sOs? Is it more likely he will play, or win, or do you think KHAN will win much more than wjs?
I also wasn't sure, thing is Woongjin might have even more players with all-kill potential so sOs might get to play less, plus he's still in Code S which usually effects Proleague lineups to some extent. Also performance in the last round. And Jangbi is getting sent out first this week once already so he is at least guaranteed to play (also Hydra is a beatable opponent).
Shame that the cool players all have such high point values. T_T Makes sense, but still, I want a better team. :D
Main Team 3 Brown Is the starter for SKT in the second match and has impressed me up close and personal with his HotS play. Might trade later on depending on results. 3 Cure(Speed) One of my favourite players aswell, is a starter, and has potential. 7 Flash (captain) Has not had good results at all yet in HotS, but being God and all, only costing 7 points this round, and steadily improving his play, I think Flash shall wreck his opposition this round. 4 Hydra Just like Flash, Hydra has had a pretty bad HotS Proleague so far, but again, just like Flash, has showed brilliance at times. Being a starter and at only 4 points, I could not pass up this opportunity. Hydra will pawn face this round, mark my words... 6 sOs(Shy) Maybe the best Protoss in the world right now, has looked fantastic in both the GSL and Proleague, and only 6 points? LOL! Grab this guy quick, he is a beast! 4 Stork Is a starter at a cost of 4 points. Has a tough match against Zest though, but I have faith in the Commander! Stork may not have transitioned to SC2 very well, but HotS has brought new opportunities, and Stork could still find a way to shine! 3 Samsung Khan Not sure about this choice, but I feel like Samsung is a slightly safer bet than KT, if only because of Roro. But with Stork, Jangbi and Reality to back him up, you have a strong team of interesting players.
Anti Team 6 Argo(Jaehoon) The anti-team was so hard for me, but I decided to pick Argo almost purely because of his inconsistancy, and hope he bails out the one match Team 8 plays this week, then trade him away quickly. 4 Mini I feel like STX have 4 players that are stronger than him, therefore not being fielded. If he does play though I might be in trouble, since STX look beastly at the moment, and Mini is by no means bad. 3 TRUE(Alone) Pretty much the same as Mini, only if TRUE actually plays, I don't see him winning.
There you have it, my team. I will probably make some minor changes before the games actually start... I'm too tired now, I'll just go to bed... Thanks for reading
@Torra Nice team, but I can't help but feel that your anti-team will tear you apart. Dear and HS are both doing a bit better than their point counts would suggest.
Went for a high profile approach, spending my points on a few expensive players and a few bottom of the barrel-ers to balance it out, rather than my previous ventures' style of all 4-6 point players. Still went with a relatively cheap, but still fielded, captain in s2 as cheap players are less tradeable. So IMO it's better to have an already difficult to trade player as the untradable captain rather than a high cost player that you might be able to upgrade at some point. Plus s2 has some potential, and is being fielded, AND is on SKT which will at list net me some team win points if he dowsn't play all that much.
Do you really need to know why I have Innovation, sOs, and Parting on my team? No? ok.Might trade Taeja off anti and swap Parting or sOs for him on main team if Park fields him as the lead off player for a match. It's an all-kill waiting to happen IMO. Same goes for Flash, Fantasy, Roro, Rain. Thus the reason you shouldn't pick a high cost player as captain.
Brown has the newcomer novelty of being chosen to play more often than a veteran of similar talent might be, and has shown some real promise in his play. A solid 3 pointer IMO, better than most other options.
Snute will hopefully get a chance to play at some point, even if only as a novelty guest appearance. But I am hopeful that under coach Park and in Korea he'll flourish. Even so he is by far the most valuable 1 pointer available, maybe other than some SKT, WJS, or STX members who could net team win points more consistently than an EGTL member might.
Besides that I tried to get some good team diversity on my team as far as teams are concerned. KT for my team because they're due to roflstomp some nerds and All-Kill rounds allow teams to be carried by their stars far more easily than standard PL format. The last few rounds I've tried to load up on players from one team in the hope that I at least earn a few extra points in team wins, but I'm trying the opposite this round, as I feel it will yeild better results, especially with few matches and teams not always playing two matches/week. We'll see how it turns out I guess. For my anti, I chose based on likelihood to play, rather than skill (obviously). Taeja is tradeable, although not by much. So if he heals up and coach Park puts him in the lineup again consistently I have an out so my FPL doesn't get ravaged by Taeja, who would do really well this round if he played a lot IMO.
On May 03 2013 06:03 suicideyear wrote: I don't expect much, other than I have the #1 best FPL name ez. The Remainder of KTStats' Chin
I think they should Implement a best team name award after each round. Since there's so many teams they could limit it to the top 200 teams or something. Have staff take a few dozen, pick their personal favorites, combine the selections, pick the best from that, then have an open poll on the SC2 general forum. Gogo TL Staff! :D
Took Bogus, Parting and sOs as my big name players. Love Flash and I do have confidence he could turn it around instantaneously, but his results recently have been slightly lackluster. SoO for 3 seemed like a solid pick for Zerg, and Puzzle is a bit of a wildcard. For 3 points Puzzle could end up being pretty sick. Threw a 1 pointer out to my man Demuslim, he probably won't net me anything given his nerve issues, but you never know.
Anti-team I'm not really happy with, but I never am. Had it in the back of my mind to potentially pick Taeja, but it's such a gamble. If Taeja plays, he could go on multiple kill streaks. If he's injured, he'd be the perfect high point pick for anti-team.
Main Team 3 Brown (TvZ sniper and overall awesome potential ) 1 Bunny (Awesome debut in Code A and one point ! a gift ! ) 3 Cure(Speed) (Good potential,showed good games since R1 and cheap) 8 Innovation(Bogus) (captain) (Best player in the world good sir ) 6 sOs(Shy) (Very solid protoss ) 5 ZerO (Even if his result went down a bit he's still very good ) 4 SK Telecom T1 (wanted STX but they cost too much,also SKT has Fantasy/Parting/Brown,they will own.
F-ing fOKINS- Mekia/fOkins is the poster boy for this team.
Main Team 8 RorO Great player with a good supporting cast to back him up. Very likely to play in every match. Ace Material. 6 herO[jOin] One of the few bright spots for CJ Entus. Should appear in every match. Ace Material. 6 sOs(Shy) 5 ZerO (For both sOs and ZerO) Woognjin Stars players. Flying, Soulkey, sOs, Zero with light, bravo and free as backups. Woognjin has a stacked roster. Chances are that if sOs or Zero makes an appearance, they will get at least 2 wins. 1 JyJ(yeOngJae) (captain) one of the few terrans with a capital O in fpl names. 1 hOpe Filler. 3 Samsung Khan Very good team for their cost. Had a terrific last round with they're only losses came from SKT T1 (all protoss lineup 4-0'd before Roro and Jangbi could play. Their second loss came to Woognjin Stars but sweeps are bound to happen. Should do really well in all-kill as Roro/ Jangbi can stay in as long as they win.
Originally had Mekia and EG-TL but decided that Khan was a better team. Also it would have meant that three of my players would be from WJS.
Anti Team 4 Hitman- sorry MrBitter. But there is a very slim chance that Hitman will appear, let alone win. 8 Rain GAMBLE. Fantasy is the SKT T1 terran ace. Zergs have been struggling for SKT T1 but should make an appearance as a sniper. Zest is PvP sniper. Which leaves Parting, and Rain. Parting will likely come out ahead of Rain which will leave Rain for last. Obviously this can fail if rain gets sent out early and just all-kills but hell that's why it's a gamble. 1 ThorZain Unlikely to appear.
Main team is more or less locked down. Anti-team is still up in the air.
On May 03 2013 06:13 nooboon wrote: F-ing fOKINS- Mekia/fOkins is the poster boy for this team.
Anti Team GAMBLE. Fantasy is the SKT T1 terran ace. Zergs have been struggling for SKT T1 but should make an appearance as a sniper. Zest is PvP sniper. Which leaves Parting, and Rain. Parting will likely come out ahead of Rain which will leave Rain for last. Obviously this can fail if rain gets sent out early and just all-kills but hell that's why it's a gamble.
I literally think you're boned. Even if all you lose is bleeding points from SKT team wins, Rain is highly unlikely to not make a few appearances this round, is even less likely to lose in those appereances IMO, and has such a high TV that you won't be able to ditch him once the round locks. Good luck to you sir.
On May 03 2013 06:13 nooboon wrote: F-ing fOKINS- Mekia/fOkins is the poster boy for this team.
Anti Team GAMBLE. Fantasy is the SKT T1 terran ace. Zergs have been struggling for SKT T1 but should make an appearance as a sniper. Zest is PvP sniper. Which leaves Parting, and Rain. Parting will likely come out ahead of Rain which will leave Rain for last. Obviously this can fail if rain gets sent out early and just all-kills but hell that's why it's a gamble.
I literally think you're boned. Even if all you lose is bleeding points from SKT team wins, Rain is highly unlikely to not make a few appearances this round, is even less likely to lose in those appereances IMO, and has such a TV that you won't be able to ditch him once the round locks. Good luck to you sir.
Ok, even if i did good last round i just picked my favorite players for this one, i don't really care about points. Because in order to get points in this game i sometimes have to pick players that i hate/dislike, and it just disgusts me to cheer for them.
Who do y'all think are the best three pointers? I'm having a hard time pinpointing the ones I want to have on the team. Keep thinking they're all gonna lose anyway. :D
Got Speed/Cure, soO and Bong, but I'm not sure at all, especially about Bong.
I feel sOs costs at the very least two points less than what he should so he is a fantastic pick up. TaeJa has been eliminated from GSL so he can focus solely on PL for the time being and is likely to be pulled out as the ace for EGTL every time. I feel Crazy is an alright pick up and I needed a reliable zerg. Brown, Puzzle, and Kop are kind of wild cards for me. I don't know how Puzzle will do in a KeSPA environment and Brown I feel is worth more than 3 points in anything other than PvP. And for Kop... well I just like his name.
Going with SKT for my team this time around because their deep roster will definitely make it hard to prepare for them especially their protoss line up.
Hitman and TY have been underperforming so I'm alright with picking these two players. Every team will have a sniper for Jaedong so I expect him to rack up maybe three kills total this round.
On May 03 2013 06:35 StarVe wrote: Who do y'all think are the best three pointers? I'm having a hard time pinpointing the ones I want to have on the team. Keep thinking they're all gonna lose anyway. :D
Got Speed/Cure, soO and Bong, but I'm not sure at all, especially about Bong.
I think Brown is a solid pick. Also s2. I have both of them :D Speed and soO are also solid. Bong... Maybe. More of a gamble IMO. The other four are more commonly in the lineups too, as far as I know.
Bravo, Oz, JYP, and Puzzle stand out to me too. But are not consistent enough/are untested so I didn't pick them.
On May 03 2013 06:13 nooboon wrote: F-ing fOKINS- Mekia/fOkins is the poster boy for this team.
Anti Team GAMBLE. Fantasy is the SKT T1 terran ace. Zergs have been struggling for SKT T1 but should make an appearance as a sniper. Zest is PvP sniper. Which leaves Parting, and Rain. Parting will likely come out ahead of Rain which will leave Rain for last. Obviously this can fail if rain gets sent out early and just all-kills but hell that's why it's a gamble.
I literally think you're boned. Even if all you lose is bleeding points from SKT team wins, Rain is highly unlikely to not make a few appearances this round, is even less likely to lose in those appereances IMO, and has such a TV that you won't be able to ditch him once the round locks. Good luck to you sir.
Rains performence last All-Kill was strangely lack luster. I still wouldn't have him anywhere near my Anti even playing like he did back then, but it certainly may not be the doomsday case I thought it might become at first. We shall see.
Tried to pick as many Protoss as possible in this Protoss favoured league :D
Don't know why I waited this long to put Jaehoon on my fantasy team, he's been really consistent. Surprised sOs was only worth 6 pts, same with PartinG. Don't know how good free is at HotS but last time it was all-kill format he was sent out often. Cure and Sacsri were pretty much picked since you have to have 1 Terran and Zerg, though Cure will probably be sent out a lot and perform better than what he's valued at. Don't know how good Sacsri is at HotS, but like free, he was sent out often last all-kill format. Finally, picked Khan since they've been on a roll recently.
Don't think Bisu is gonna be sent out much this round, if not at all. Hitman seems like someone who is more successful in the other format, where he only has to face and prepare for one opponent. Jaedong will probably be sent out a bit, but his ZvP is pretty bad.
This team basically relies on Innovation/Roro/sOs killing everybody. Huk and Snute were picked because they're 1 point and might see some action (which is more than I can say for most 1 pointers). I grabbed S2 because he's a week 1 starter and I feel like he should at least win his first game. And I picked Khan because I could afford 3 points for the team, and I think they're better than KT.
As for the anti-team, aLive hasn't impressed me since week 1 of the last round. I don't think Hitman will play and Crazy because I needed a 5 pointer (this may come back to bite me in the ass).
With some luck after week 1, maybe I'll get some good trades ? Sorry for EGL, but playing only one match and starting against innovation, I'm all in...
How is this one? Which changes are the smartest to make?
Personally I think you've chosen pretty damn well. My only nitpick is that you have Innovation as your captain. I always try to have my cheapest player as captain as they are basically untradeable anyway, and a high point player like Innovation is likely to be tradeable for the whole round of FPL for essentailly any player. Not that I would condone trading Innovation EVER, it's just a strategy I try to adopt to keep my options as open as possible.
Side note, this one I'm unsure about (hell I've only ever done FPL since SC2 so what do I know?), but choosing to save points in the team category versus on a player is a bad (not wrong) choice IMO. This is because a low rated team is likely to lose more right? And teams (unlike your main team players) actually count AGAINST you when they lose. So if you can choose a team that is more likely to win, but costs a few more points and cut difference out of one of your players you won't be getting any negative points when they underperform, you just won't get any points at all. I have no actual data to support this theory though, so take all of this with a nice big grain of salt.
You have a really balanced team points wise, with no over loading on heavy hitters (sort of what I did) so taking a hit on the team side of things is more reasonable. Like I said though, I think you chose well overall. And if this All-Kill round is as volotile as last All-Kill PL and GSTL this season were, choosing CJ for 1 point might well turn out to be a godsend.
Personally I think you've chosen pretty damn well. My only nitpick is that you have Innovation as your captain. I always try to have my cheapest player as captain as they are basically untradeable anyway, and a high point player like Innovation is likely to be tradeable for the whole round of FPL for essentailly any player. Not that I would condone trading Innovation EVER, it's just a strategy I try to adopt to keep my options as open as possible.
Side note, this one I'm unsure about (hell I've only ever done FPL since SC2 so what do I know?), but choosing to save points in the team category versus on a player is a bad (not wrong) choice IMO. This is because a low rated team is likely to lose more right? And teams (unlike your main team players) actually count AGAINST you when they lose. So if you can choose a team that is more likely to win, but costs a few more points and cut difference out of one of your players you won't be getting any negative points when they underperform, you just won't get any points at all. I have no actual data to support this theory though, so take all of this with a nice big grain of salt.
You have a really balanced team points wise, with no over loading on heavy hitters (sort of what I did) so taking a hit on the team side of things is more reasonable. Like I said though, I think you chose well overall. And if this All-Kill round is as volotile as last All-Kill PL and GSTL this season were, choosing CJ for 1 point might well turn out to be a godsend.
Thanks! When it comes to the CJ thing, I picked it because I can't pick Leta, which I've done every time no matter what. That, and the fact that I picked 2 CJ players that will probably play every time (if not for an all kill by one of them), so I want CJ. Who should I make my captain then, and how is the Anti Team?
Cure did ok for me last round so he's welcome back on the team. Wanted a solid ace and innovation is also opening against a very all-kilable team (maybe taeja or some prepared sniper can beat him, but dayum his GSL games!), so that was like YEA PLS. Jangbi and Stork both opening and hopefully gonna be fielded much afterwards as well. WJS is sending out another 2pointer this week so maybe aria gets to play later this round, but him and size are mainly fillers that might get to play. Im counting on SKT to actually either beat people before they need rain, or to use someone else as an ace - if they dont, most teams have at least one player that could beat rain (EGTL will have the hardest time i think). Hitman didnt impress me last round (i didnt really watch all the games tho, someone here who might be able to tell me if its a smart idea to get him on anti?). needed 1 more point, picked one of the CJ guys that's been on the roster forever and not played a single game (dont think snow did?), unless CJ turns it around bigtime this round he wont give me a high score.
I'm not that confident this round with the allkill format. I think SKT and WJS will both be really tough to beat. I'm really shaky on my pick of Light, who started to look shaky towards the end of last round. sOs at 6 points seemed too good to pass on - CJ's Hero is also good value but I don't think CJ will win much this round. I like s2 for whatever reason, and have picked him a lot in the past (including the anti-team for most of round 4, until he showed up for the last week when I picked him). Puzzle and Last are gambles. If Innovation's Terran can't beat someone I'm not sure that Last can, but I wanted to have a second Terran in case I need to trade Light. Puzzle is a hit or miss, but I think DAT KESPA TRAINING will take a good player and make him very good. Again though, if Stats and Zest/Wooki can't win against a player I'm not sure Puzzle can either. I might end up remaking the team before the games start and replace Puzzle with someone else.
Really top heavy this time around. Seems like everyone has Bogus. He's starting, he's probably the best kespa player, and it's unlikely that STX are going to win many games before he's fielded (which could be a problem for Rain or, yes, Soulkey/sOs). sOs just seems too undervalued at 6 points to pass up. Soulkey is just an extraordinary player, and I fully expect him to rack up wins this round. There's some risk there, given that he's on a deep team with a big lead and he's still in GSL, but whatever. I think he's peaking. Puzzle looks undervalued at 3. He's been away from the game for a long time and he's never competed in proleague, which is likely why he's this low, but he's quite talented and already looks to be in good form. Add in his previous success in this format with Slayers and he looks good to go. KT didn't put in a bid to sit him on the bench. Round the roster out with 1-point win farmers from good teams. I really wanted Cure at 3 points, but I couldn't figure out a way to make it happen. I hope I don't regret Soulkey instead of Rain or Roro.
I'm really not sure about my anti this round. Best at 3 points seems like a pretty good pick because I don't expect him to play with how deep SKT is at Protoss, but at the same time I also expect SKT to win a lot of matches. JD makes me nervous because EGTL could and should use him as a Zerg sniper, but six points for a guy who can't beat Protoss in a league full of them made me pull the trigger. Bbyong is filler. At 4 points I just don't think he's that good.
Main Team 7 Flash - Upset/Angry Ultimate Weapon is a dangerous weapon. 8 Innovation(Bogus) (captain) - Because Bogus. 6 JangBi - Top Toss in Samsung, Samsung has razor thin lineup. Will be sent out unless Roro all kills. 1 MyuNgSiK - KT filler. 2 sKyHigh - Steal at 2 points I feel. 5 ZerO - Woongjin Player + Top 3 WJS player 1 CJ Entus - Very underrated lineup. Has deep depth with lots of potential.
Anti Team 3 Best - SKT Toss behind Rain, Parting, Brown, Bisu, okay. 4 Mini - Behind Trap/Mini. Hyvaa/Innovation are sure bets every STX game 6 TaeJa - big risk move...
how does this look? Last FPL I was top 100 the entire time until the final week where I dropped out considerably :<
Personally I think you've chosen pretty damn well. My only nitpick is that you have Innovation as your captain. I always try to have my cheapest player as captain as they are basically untradeable anyway, and a high point player like Innovation is likely to be tradeable for the whole round of FPL for essentailly any player. Not that I would condone trading Innovation EVER, it's just a strategy I try to adopt to keep my options as open as possible.
Side note, this one I'm unsure about (hell I've only ever done FPL since SC2 so what do I know?), but choosing to save points in the team category versus on a player is a bad (not wrong) choice IMO. This is because a low rated team is likely to lose more right? And teams (unlike your main team players) actually count AGAINST you when they lose. So if you can choose a team that is more likely to win, but costs a few more points and cut difference out of one of your players you won't be getting any negative points when they underperform, you just won't get any points at all. I have no actual data to support this theory though, so take all of this with a nice big grain of salt.
You have a really balanced team points wise, with no over loading on heavy hitters (sort of what I did) so taking a hit on the team side of things is more reasonable. Like I said though, I think you chose well overall. And if this All-Kill round is as volatile as last All-Kill PL and GSTL this season were, choosing CJ for 1 point might well turn out to be a godsend.
Thanks! When it comes to the CJ thing, I picked it because I can't pick Leta, which I've done every time no matter what. That, and the fact that I picked 2 CJ players that will probably play every time (if not for an all kill by one of them), so I want CJ. Who should I make my captain then, and how is the Anti Team?
Loading up on players of one team or another is a risky play IMO. Especially a low rated team like CJ. If CJ does bad, that's half your team that's doing bad, but if they do great, even if your players aren't playing in the matches they'll pick up spare team win points. I prefer to go for the spread out 1, maybe 2, members from any one team. But I have let my fanboy heart get in the way of my head as I've sported 75% KT, EG-TL, and SKT T1 teams in the different rounds lmao. What can I say, I'm a fanboy of basically everyone. And I'd just go with your most solid 3 or 4 point player as captain. But really, having Innovation all season will be a net gain guaranteed, so you might not bother swapping as its your other, less consistent players that are going to be of trade-interest later on.
I think your anti is solid. The way I see it there are two ways to make an anti team. #1 Get one big player and gamble that they aren't played often/don't win when they do. This is risky since players aren't assigned high cost who are bad/don't play often, but can pay off in that you can afford to pick up one or two really low cost no name players on a bad team that will hopefully never get you anti-points. #2 You go for 3 balanced players point wise (4-4-5, or 6-5-3, etc.) and try to pick players that aren't played often/are inconsistent when they do play. I prefer the #2 option, which is basically what you went for too, so I can't disagree with your anti choices. I too went with Taeja, banking on his wrists staying injured/focusing on WCS NA etc.
I have to add though that hoping Taeja stays injured for my own FPL needs feels really wrong. I want him to heal and crush nerd souls forever and ever again so badly. I'll trade him onto my main ASAP if that starts to happen though lol.
I tried to get either starters or aces for the team, players who are gonna play all the time.
EffOrt, sOs and Zest are the ones who are gonna play all the time - sOs is imo one of, if not the most, underrated player for the entire round (lol sOs being worth less then Flash). He is also pretty much guaranteed to play for WJS (if other players don't kill the opposing team before he is ready). Effort is Zerg ace for CJ I guess, after Hydra forgot to learn to play HotS. And Zest has pretty good matchup for the first round, also should be playing some for KT. In this case I still didnt decide if I should keep him or get JangBi.
Bbyong, Brown and Cure are starters, who I fell should win at least the first game. Cure was pretty decent last all-kill round, hoping he will play some for T8 and get kills. Bbyong also decent terran and should be playing for CJ, since he is the best T there. And Brown is there really just for his starting match, looking to trade him asap (or he will lose and I am fucked).
Samsung Khan was picked mostly due to having RorO and JangBi, I feel they are very good 2 hit combo + Reality and Stork as backup and Shine for cheesing out opponent aces. Will see, I hope they will perform at least as good as last all-kill round.
As far as anti goes, I was trying to choose players who I think will not be playing much, because they are only 3rd or 4th choices of their races in their teams.
I lean towards Zest just a tad in current performance. In potential I like JangBi a lot more. If he gets an all kill or scores a good run one round you'll be able to trade up possibly too, which I think is a greater likelihood with JangBi than with Zest. Especially as Zest has more competition for playing time IMO.
Dear had an exceptionally good round in R4 but I feel like STX has several up and comming protosses and they'll still be heavily reliant on Innovation so Dear might not get a lot of play time necessarily. Even assuming he is the best toss on STX I don't feel he is that great for a 7.
For my main team I just tried to get a good diversity of players from different teams, namely cheap players that I think are good and going to play a lot.
Team : FanTaSy is just my favourite player ... So I'll pick him every single Time and I'll never Trade him !!! Then comes INnoVation ... It was either him or Soulkey or Rain ^^ ... But Bogus is a Terran so I had to pick him (and also because he's a Beast and he plays for an other team than SKT1, so I don't have 2 aces players of the same team). sOs is one of the Best Protoss player out there and you have him for 6pts ... Cure was really good during round 2 (also allkill format) and did 50-50 since then. I think he's a good player and he can pick a lot of win. Finally I had to take two 1pts players because I had to take SKT1 ^^. So i took Snute & MajOr. I don't think MajOr's going to play, but Snute might be, I feel like he's better than HuK, ThorZaIN, Zenio, JYP ... So he might be able to play and win some games !
Antis : Crazy & Hydra didn't do well last round and I hope it'll continue like that. I doubt hitmaN will be sent before Flash, Stats, Zest(Wooki) or Crazy and even if he does, I don't really think that he'll win too much.
It's Winners League, so it's time to go all-in on people you KNOW are going to get played and have the potential to sweep. I really hope EG-TL pulls it out, too, but I think the other teams have scarier aces... (it didn't used to be like that!)
I've got four possible multi-kill players (including the consensus "best terran in the world") plus Brown, who's starting this week, and Bunny, who had a great code A debut
As for the anti-team, JYP gonna JYP, can't do anything about that Reality is rarely fielded and if on the rare occasion that he is fielded, it's a hit or miss, mostly a miss (I'm still pretty nervous about him killing multiple guys so I might trade him in the first week if things go downhill) Hitman is the same as reality, can't rake up wins when it counts
BarrackS - I hope he's good because his name suggests he will make a lot of barracks and they make marines who are monstrously OP Flash - He has a good jawline and I like his hair herO - I picked him because I like to support Team Liquid HoeJJa - I really like his name Innovation(Bogus) - He has a really long name so I'm thinking he must be good because he wouldn't be allowed such a long weird name otherwise sOs(Shy) - sOs is very good and it says he is shy so hopefully he will quietly practice a lot CJ Entus - I picked CJ Entus because they are very cheap but sound like a basketball player or a golf player so they are probably really good
my anti team are all on EG-TL because Evil Geniuses is a bit of a rubbish name like one I would have made on WoW when I was 11 and I wasn't very good at WoW so I hope they aren't either.
Anti Team 3 Bong 6 Jaedong 4 Mini Behold my team with 4 ace players and 2 players that were randomly selected.
How could you ever put EG-TL's strongest player on your anti-team, lol?
JD forever!
I asked him and he said he laughs at my main team's hope last round in Jaedong, so he picked it to spite me. ...which means he'll change it tomorrow. (he wasn't near a computer so couldn't respond himself)
Innovation as my captain I think is a no brainer. Guys a beast. Flying for 4 points? This guy was Code S this season! Effort, Code A =, overall just a monster. Brown and Dark, both players that came out for Slayers a lot in online team leagues during their darker days, and they both killed it. Low cost and high potential, also been coming out for SKT a lot this last round. Classic, Kind of expensive, but overall he has just been a solid player from what I have seen.Hopefully he impresses thios round.
As for the anti-team, none of these players have really impressed me all that much. Dear was doing really well in the early rounds, but I haven't seen a lot from him recently. Bisu, and Best, just mediocre players that with SKT's insane toss lineup I don't see them getting a lot of spots to play.
Main team is pretty straight forward, Innovation, Flying, sOs are all solid streaky players, with Last and Dark serves as decent snipers, Puzzle is a bet after watching his DH performance, I believe he is going to be better and better. For the team SKT1 is a great choice in WL format for their insane Protoss ace line up backed with Fantasy, Brown and Dark.
The Anti is also easy to understand, those Zergs are not going to play that well in the WL format, with a Jaedong mixed in for his weakness in the Protoss sea that is Proleague.
The rule of my team is basically you either need to be one of the strongest players in all of proleague or you need to be a low price player that is starting thus, i present my team
In terms of the anti team, jangbi is a little risky, but he's been doing a little worse lately, and this allows me to pick to players that will likely never see play time.
Main Team 6 Argo(Jaehoon) Jaehoon has been the most consistant player on t8 since the begining of SPL, he will play. 3 Bong Bong is great pvz, im sure he'll bring a couple points 6 herO[jOin] hes solid, always bring points 6 JangBi JANGBANG 5 Light (captain) WJn's main terran 3 soO wanted a skt player, Soo is best zerg on Skt 1 CJ Entus Cj will be strong in this format with hero having the possibility of all-kill Anti Team 6 Jaedong I feel like the long dong won't be so good in that format 3 Shine He might win a game or 2 within the season but i don't expect much of him 4 Stork he plays wookie first week and wookie has been the designated pvp player for KT and did great last round.
On May 03 2013 12:00 ROOTT1 wrote: i need some help picking my last 2 players, should i go w/ effort+4pter(most likely hyvaa) or herojoin + 3pter(most likely ty)?
get hero, hyvaa and effort arent consistant while hero is and ty? why not cure
On May 03 2013 12:00 ROOTT1 wrote: i need some help picking my last 2 players, should i go w/ effort+4pter(most likely hyvaa) or herojoin + 3pter(most likely ty)?
I think you should take herO, but for 3 pts, you can have some other players that are better or as good as TY. Cure / Brown for example
On May 03 2013 12:00 ROOTT1 wrote: i need some help picking my last 2 players, should i go w/ effort+4pter(most likely hyvaa) or herojoin + 3pter(most likely ty)?
I think you should take herO, but for 3 pts, you can have some other players that are better or as good as TY. Cure / Brown for example
brown is gonna lose vs hyvaa and skt is stacked so he wont get alot of playtime, and imo ty is better than cure
On May 03 2013 12:00 ROOTT1 wrote: i need some help picking my last 2 players, should i go w/ effort+4pter(most likely hyvaa) or herojoin + 3pter(most likely ty)?
I think you should take herO, but for 3 pts, you can have some other players that are better or as good as TY. Cure / Brown for example
brown is gonna lose vs hyvaa and skt is stacked so he wont get alot of playtime, and imo ty is better than cure
You might be right, but that's just my opinion ^^. Brown showed some Great PvP & PvT (was really good against TaeJa ... who's a Monster) I don't really know about his PvZ but hyvaa shown . I took Cure instead of TY because Cure has a better Ratio than TY ^^. You're right about Brown, he's stacked with SKT1's sick line-up but Cure's going to play as much as TY and he's better imo. Remember, just tryin' to help ^^.
Still there are plenty of 3pters that can give you some wins and will play. TRUE (T8 has a small Line up so it's pretty sure all of their players are going to play at least), Terminator, Puzzle, Oz, Last, soO ... I think Oz's going to play, Last may be playing sometimes if Innovation doesn't all-kill every team ahahah ^^. soO is also going to play because he's good and he's the best Zerg player of SKT1 ... so he should play eventually ^^
Parting, Shy, and herO are all ballers for only 6. Parting as captain because I know I love him too much to ever trade him lol.
Cure has a good starting matchup, and I'm banking on him taking some games, so I can trade him for someone better.
Picked CJ because all the other teams were too expensive, and CJ definitely has the tools to turn things around anyway (all-kill format should also be a slight help)
Now, Question: Should I keep EffOrt and soO or take hyvaa and and another 4 pointer instead?
I don't really know with this. I hate PartinG, but at 6 he seemd too much of a steal to ignore, as he should play in all of their matches if provided with the opportunity (aka not a 4-0 or something). Same goes with sOs (who I think is the scariest player going right now) and herO (despite his teams struggles and his recent lack of success, he should play every time). Flying, on a good team, seems like a safe bet at 4, and then the T and Z are fillers with the team. Revival should play a decent amount for EG-TL, especially considering the TaeJa shut down (is this still active?). Cure's a flier, as I liked him when he started playing WoL but not much since. Khan's a sleeper team that makes the numbers work out. Too much of a crapshoot to get into seriously analyzing (I'm awful with all kill format so this is probably all null and void anyway).
As for the anti, I think Jaedong's too easily sniped by all of the good PL Protoss running around right now and the other two are just kind of random.
On May 03 2013 12:00 ROOTT1 wrote: i need some help picking my last 2 players, should i go w/ effort+4pter(most likely hyvaa) or herojoin + 3pter(most likely ty)?
I think you should take herO, but for 3 pts, you can have some other players that are better or as good as TY. Cure / Brown for example
brown is gonna lose vs hyvaa and skt is stacked so he wont get alot of playtime, and imo ty is better than cure
I can't spend points on STX anymore (I used to pick them always).
This round, I decided to just pick my favorite players (instead of just picking mostly STX and SKT) and I don't have enough to pick them all and STX at the same time.
Though... Hmm. How hard can Innovation carry STX now that this is winner's league?
Honestly though, it'd be hard since each team has someone that can take down Innovation.
Not completely happy with my main team. With HoTS still relatively new, anything can happen in terms of streaks and slumps which makes an all-kill format volatile. With PL still Protoss heavy, I decided to go with Rain as my captain. I like Parting's play recently and have always liked Puzzle so the remaining spots were built around the Protoss base. s2 is getting a start this week and while I am not confident he will rack up the wins, it does look like he will be used often. SKT is built for the all-kill format and I expect them to be first this round. I felt the need to have an EGTL representative and liked alive better than Taeja for points and for consistency. That left two points to work with and while I don't know a ton about Action, he does seem to be used often enough to be a solid 2-pointer.
Edit: Switched Argo in for Parting as I realized it's probably not a good idea to be too heavily invested in players from one team and while I would pick Parting over Argo any day, I see T8 leaning on Argo heavily and greater opportunity for points as Parting may not even get to play as often.
I really like this Anti team. Even if Mini does get played, I don't expect great results, and as others have mentioned, Hitman seems way overvalued at 4 points. I also think zergs have it a bit tougher right now and Crazy was the best anti option at 5 points. My anti team killed me last round so I tried to keep from taking any risks on big names slumping.
Argo: He can net the surprise all-kills for T8 so long as he doesn't turn into Failhoon. Brown: Starts for SKT. SKT is likely to win quite a lot. Brown might actually get played as a 3 pointer. Flying: 4 point WJS. WJS is a winner. Flying is good enough to get played (WJS core Soulkey, sOs, Flying, LighT, ZerO) Hydra: 4 point, plays for CJ first game against Jangbi. CJ is certainly going to play Hydra a lot and Jangbi is beatable. Innovation: 8 points. He's bogus. And it's all-kill. Stork: 4 point, plays for Khan first game against Zest. While Zest is better overall, we can only hope... Team 8: I had only 1 point left. I trust Argo's all-kill power more than CJ's herO or Effort.
I tried to pick cheap ace players. Taeja will play every EGTL match unless HerO cleans up, Jangbi will play every KHAN match, Parting will get a lot of wins and he is super cheap at 6 points... Cure is the 2nd most expensive T8 player, can you believe that? He'll get fielded everytime Jaehoon loses. Bbyong will also likely get lots of playtime being the only good terran on CJ. Lastely, I needed a 1 point zerg, so might as well pick one from the team I think will win a lot. SKT should do the best in AK format though. Their lineup is very strong and has many ace players. They suffer in regular format because their B-rank players are really B, but their A rank players are really fucking A.
Anti team was easy. Flash/Stats/Zest should clean up for KT and Crazy is definitely not worth 5 points. Free won't be played with sOs, and lol hitman.
sOs, most obvious pick for me, shares ace spot with soulkey for woongjin, way undervalued at 6 points
Effort, playing well in HotS so far, barely falling to innovation which is an accomplishment within itself
Innovation, debated hard between innovation and roro and soulkey..one one hand innovation is a monster, but on the other hand, he has dropped a couple games in PL, roro and soulkey have been pretty much untouched....may still sacrifice my 2 3 pointers to upgrade effort and go for the star studded lineup
s2 & Brown, was hard picking between the 3 pointers, the ones that i thought were undervalued at first glance have been doing terrible in Hots, these 2 are starting so hopefully they can net me some points
Bear, hoping he will be played at some point but if not STX should at least net me some points
SKT1 - with rain and parting and fantasy i think SKT1 has pretty strong potential in an all-kill format..there is still WJS and STX to consider though, also Khan by virtue of roro alone...
anti - fuck this was hard to pick
free - counting on him not to be played with how many good players WJS has
Trap - was difficult choosing between a 6 pointer + 3 pointer or a 5 pointer + 4 pointer, in the end i went with trap because the 5 pointers have all been doing really well in hots :/
solar - seems least impressive out of the 3 pointers
Not sure which I like more... I feel like in allkill format you need to have the real heavy hitters but that comes at the cost of having good secondary players who might not take 2-4 wins per round but will still get played by their team frequently enough to justify their spot.
All players are relevant to their team and will likely see play with no team taken twice to minimize risk of staying benched (which can happen anyways). The heavy hitters have huge all-kill potential and have been stable over several seasons. Cure and Bong both are good players of weak teams, so they will be fielded and could surprise. No points for team left means CJ over team 8, because of their better multi-kill potential (with Effort and herO). Snute because he´s a sexy beast.
Crazy seems quite expensive for a ZvZ player in this format. Hydra sucked major balls ever since HotS and free, well, there are many WJS players who should sweep everything before he comes out.
Just a well-rounded team, quite happy with my picks. The hardest decision was choice between sOs/herO - went with herO since CJ is much more dependent on him. Kind of worried about Bogus getting sniped but he is sick good in all three match-ups.
Just a well-rounded team, quite happy with my picks. The hardest decision was choice between sOs/herO - went with herO since CJ is much more dependent on him. Kind of worried about Bogus getting sniped but he is sick good in all three match-ups.
Your anti-team is kinda funny if you read there names in that order they stand in :o
On May 03 2013 14:02 GenesisX wrote: Taeja will play every EGTL match unless HerO cleans up, Jangbi will play every KHAN match, Parting will get a lot of wins and he is super cheap at 6 points... Cure is the 2nd most expensive T8 player, can you believe that? He'll get fielded everytime Jaehoon loses. Bbyong will also likely get lots of playtime being the only good terran on CJ. Lastely, I needed a 1 point zerg, so might as well pick one from the team I think will win a lot. SKT should do the best in AK format though. Their lineup is very strong and has many ace players. They suffer in regular format because their B-rank players are really B, but their A rank players are really fucking A.
Anti team was easy. Flash/Stats/Zest should clean up for KT and Crazy is definitely not worth 5 points. Free won't be played with sOs, and lol hitman.
Alive seems to be improving really fast under coach park and has became a staple player for EGTL. Hopefully Bisu will get to play, but I doubt it so he's there to collect SKT points and I like him. Had cure since the 1st season and he is a really solid player for the cost. Effort is if I'm not mistaken the last guy to beat Innovation, so hopefully he will preform well. Flash will bounce back and murder some nerds, he looked good in this ro16 group in GSL, it was just to insane of a group to advance. I fucking love flying, I see him doing great things in the future and he is my new favorite player since few months ago. SKT has the depth to snipe anyone, hopefully they will pay off.
Won't comment on anti since it fucks me over each round and I just browsed this thread and tryed to figure out who are the most represented on yall's anti teams.
Khan should win against CJ, JangBi could get some wins. It won't be easy for Woongjin Stars but I favor them and so chose it's better players in Flying and sOs. I also forgot to change Aria for someone from Khan -_- And of course Bogus as my capitan causethe beast :D As for my anti - Hitman was pretty high on points, he could play on the first day but don't think he'll win. Taeja is injured and JYP won't play a lot.
I tried to grab as many all-killers as possible: Innovation, Flash, Free, Hydra. The only one I didn't get was Zest. Made Innovation captain because his play is sick and he might turn out to be my favorite player (and I favor Terrans). Paralyze looked like a good 2-point pick up, and with the last point I chose Hanbin because I wanted someone super young on the team (he's 17). Then I chose SKT because they've got some great players, they've been doing well so far, and they have Boxer.
I tried to go for players that all have a good chance of appearing for their team as well as getting a win or two. That meant avoiding all the SKT and Woongjin players because there are so many strong players on those teams that the team could easily win a match without using their best players. I also tried to avoid making it top-heavy.
I think Argo will often be needed by Team 8, as will herO for CJ. The rest are a mix of what I consider core support players; those who often (if not always) appear for their team in standard rounds and can contribute a few wins per round. Samsung Khan for my team since they have a good top 4 with Roro, Jangbi, Reality, and Stork so could do better than their 3 points value.
The anti-team is players I think are over-valued. Dear is worth more than sOs, Jangbi, Argo, herO, etc. who are all better Protoss (imo), and STX have other good Protoss options in Trap and Classic. Likewise Crazy is worth more than Hydra or soO and worth the same as Effort. Crazy is on KT though so he might get sent out a lot. Finally, Major because I'd be astonished if he is ever sent out :p
I tried to grab as many all-killers as possible: Innovation, Flash, Free, Hydra. The only one I didn't get was Zest. Made Innovation captain because his play is sick and he might turn out to be my favorite player (and I favor Terrans). Paralyze looked like a good 2-point pick up, and with the last point I chose Hanbin because I wanted someone super young on the team (he's 17). Then I chose SKT because they've got some great players, they've been doing well so far, and they have Boxer.
Argo on anti team....
Humm i did that last season and i regret it pretty hard,good luck man :p
On May 03 2013 14:02 GenesisX wrote: Taeja will play every EGTL match unless HerO cleans up, Jangbi will play every KHAN match, Parting will get a lot of wins and he is super cheap at 6 points... Cure is the 2nd most expensive T8 player, can you believe that? He'll get fielded everytime Jaehoon loses. Bbyong will also likely get lots of playtime being the only good terran on CJ. Lastely, I needed a 1 point zerg, so might as well pick one from the team I think will win a lot. SKT should do the best in AK format though. Their lineup is very strong and has many ace players. They suffer in regular format because their B-rank players are really B, but their A rank players are really fucking A.
Anti team was easy. Flash/Stats/Zest should clean up for KT and Crazy is definitely not worth 5 points. Free won't be played with sOs, and lol hitman.
Someone hasn't been watching proleague
no more GSL means TaeJa can actually start playing PL now
I didn't want 1 or 2 pointer who didn't play so I just check who don't cost too much and was always field in the previous all-kill round to pick my team. I'm pretty confident that they will play, now the only problem is to know if they will win
I don't like it too much. STX and SKT have a lot of good players who will be field before Mini Last and soO. And for your Anti-team, Taeja could be a good choice or a terrible one. But it's too risky to get him I think. GL HF
Yeah, I really considered Taeja on Anti as well but he has no GSL to prepare for, so I think chances are 70-30 he's going to play. And you really don't want him on your Anti when he's playing lol
On May 03 2013 12:00 ROOTT1 wrote: i need some help picking my last 2 players, should i go w/ effort+4pter(most likely hyvaa) or herojoin + 3pter(most likely ty)?
I think you should take herO, but for 3 pts, you can have some other players that are better or as good as TY. Cure / Brown for example
brown is gonna lose vs hyvaa and skt is stacked so he wont get alot of playtime, and imo ty is better than cure
you should listen to ppl who placed higher than you every round so far. Hyvaa isnt so good, the only reason he gets points is because hes stx's main zerg so of course he gets playtime. while cure vs ty, if we just look at WoL + hots stats cure has been more solid and he has way better chances to get a multi kill (1-2-3) since hes a starter for t8 + the facts thats hes best terran on t8. while effort vs hero you know hero is more consistant.
TY at 3 pts is only worth on proleague format when he can both play and ACE.
Main Team 4 aLive (Has seen quite a lot of play lately and is the only terran besides Taeja.) 8 Innovation(Bogus) (Had to make a choice between him or Soulkey. In the end made this choice as WJS has many strong players so Soulkey might not play that much and I also picked sOs) 2 Mekia(fOKINS) (Starter this week, might not win, but should hopefully get team win points.) 2 sKyHigh (Needed a 2 pointer and didn' t see a better option.) 6 sOs(Shy) (Overall solid player with decent value.) 3 TY(Baby) (captain) (Good 3 pointer.) 5 Woongjin Stars (No good explanation here. Have picked WJS almost every time since they impressed me in R1 unless they were really expensive.)
Anti Team 3 Bisu (Many strong protoss on the team to contend with for spots.) 4 Hitman (No good information on him, but doesn' t seem to be a frequent pick though I might be wrong on this one.) 6 TaeJa (Don' t know if he still has problems with his injury or not, so taking a gamble here. Though his recent results haven' t been that strong.)
That's tough. I think Kop has the potential to be better but I think Cure is the safe choice. Depends on how much you like to gamble. I think Cure will get more appearances too. There aren't that many better players on Team 8, and no real Terrans who are clearly better (imo). Kop however is probably below Reality on Khan, as well as the non-Terrans Roro, Jangbi and Stork.
Bbyong is a solid terran who will pick up some kills. More importantly, he is good at TvP in a tournament stacked with Protoss. MajOr is heavily underrated at 1 point and will probably come out for T8 at some point in time. Innovation is... well, he's innovation. Revival is a good zerg who is likely to be sent out by EG-TL, RorO is the ace player on his team, and sOs is crazy good at killing zerg. CJ is cheap! ^_^
Anti Team 3 Bisu 4 Flying 6 TaeJa Both Bisu and Flying aren't in top form. TaeJa should rename himself to "ChokeJa" until his wrists are fixed. On top of that, he's switching to WCS 'Murica after this.
On May 04 2013 03:17 Draconicfire wrote: So many Bogus captains.
Yeah, it will be hilarious is Innovation has a bad round. So many teams will be screwed. Maybe people think STX will have to field him every match. + Show Spoiler [GSL] +
Possibly has something to do with him winning the Group of Death in the GSL too
He did go 5-2 in round 4 but that isn't so overwhelming that I expected him to be in so many teams :p
On May 04 2013 03:17 Draconicfire wrote: So many Bogus captains.
Yeah, it will be hilarious is Innovation has a bad round. So many teams will be screwed. Maybe people think STX will have to field him every match. + Show Spoiler [GSL] +
Possibly has something to do with him winning the Group of Death in the GSL too
He did go 5-2 in round 4 but that isn't so overwhelming that I expected him to be in so many teams :p
yeah he might pull a jaedong
for those of you who dont know, back on oz, jaedong had to carry his pl team and play msl and osl at the same time and he pretty much got burned out
your anti will cruch your FPL. Jaedong is a key player of EGTL. It's not a good thing to have an Ace player in your anti even if he is not the best of them
Anti Team 4 Hitman 6 Jaedong 3 Kop flash as in carrying KT soulkey cuz imba flying 4 points lol?? teamtaeja! 2 cheap wjs players and 1 is starter in match 2
hitman wont get played often i think jaedong wont get played often because u can just kill him with a protoss swapped kop for solar :D
your anti will cruch your FPL. Jaedong is a key player of EGTL. It's not a good thing to have an Ace player in your anti even if he is not the best of them
He may be an ace player but I would expect him to be more easily sniped than other ace players because of his struggles against Protoss. He is 5-6 in HotS against Protoss, but 2 of those wins were Verdi at Dreamhack where he also lost 2-1 to Naniwa. His other 2 wins are against Aria and Stork. Hardly the most impressive record for an ace player. There are a lot of Protoss players in kespa and I wouldn't be surprised if a team playing against EG-TL dedicates one of its Protoss players to sniping JD.
Edit: At teddyoojo: Kop recently qualified for Code A and was put into the line-up for Khan's final 2 matches in round 4. He won them both.
your anti will cruch your FPL. Jaedong is a key player of EGTL. It's not a good thing to have an Ace player in your anti even if he is not the best of them
He may be an ace player but I would expect him to be more easily sniped than other ace players because of his struggles against Protoss. He is 5-6 in HotS against Protoss, but 2 of those wins were Verdi at Dreamhack where he also lost 2-1 to Naniwa. His other 2 wins are against Aria and Stork. Hardly the most impressive record for an ace player. There are a lot of Protoss players in kespa and I wouldn't be surprised if a team playing against EG-TL dedicates one of its Protoss players to sniping JD.
Edit: Kop recently qualified for Code A and was put into the line-up for Khan's final 2 matches in round 4. He won them both.
He would still have to win at least one game for him to get sniped
your anti will cruch your FPL. Jaedong is a key player of EGTL. It's not a good thing to have an Ace player in your anti even if he is not the best of them
He may be an ace player but I would expect him to be more easily sniped than other ace players because of his struggles against Protoss. He is 5-6 in HotS against Protoss, but 2 of those wins were Verdi at Dreamhack where he also lost 2-1 to Naniwa. His other 2 wins are against Aria and Stork. Hardly the most impressive record for an ace player. There are a lot of Protoss players in kespa and I wouldn't be surprised if a team playing against EG-TL dedicates one of its Protoss players to sniping JD.
Edit: Kop recently qualified for Code A and was put into the line-up for Khan's final 2 matches in round 4. He won them both.
He would still have to win at least one game for him to get sniped
That's true and why i didn't put him on my anti-team, but JD is worth the same as sOs, herO, Parting, Argo, Jangbi who are all imo more capable of getting 2 or 3 wins in a match.
JangBi were my favorite player in BW and is so also in SC2 so he is obviously my captain just like he's always been. Innovation is a beast, don't think one can go wrong with him. s2 is a player I've always been fond of since BW, don't know why I just am so he's a given. sOs like Innovation is just a beast, can't go wrong with him. Revival is really good for only 2 points so I snatched him for the team. HoeJJa is mostly filler but is imo the best player at 1 point.
I think all Zergs will have a hard time doing good for a while, and these three (Crazy, Hitman, Hydra) I haven't seen much from.
your anti will cruch your FPL. Jaedong is a key player of EGTL. It's not a good thing to have an Ace player in your anti even if he is not the best of them
My thoughts were that he would be sniped as his vs. P record isn't too hot and T is pretty strong vs. Z right now, the fact he's on EG-TL means he hopefully won't pick up too many wins through the team.
He was the least hard hitting person I could find that was 5+ points to be honest, everyone else was a solid player who could pick up a game or two each match.
your anti will cruch your FPL. Jaedong is a key player of EGTL. It's not a good thing to have an Ace player in your anti even if he is not the best of them
He may be an ace player but I would expect him to be more easily sniped than other ace players because of his struggles against Protoss. He is 5-6 in HotS against Protoss, but 2 of those wins were Verdi at Dreamhack where he also lost 2-1 to Naniwa. His other 2 wins are against Aria and Stork. Hardly the most impressive record for an ace player. There are a lot of Protoss players in kespa and I wouldn't be surprised if a team playing against EG-TL dedicates one of its Protoss players to sniping JD.
Edit: Kop recently qualified for Code A and was put into the line-up for Khan's final 2 matches in round 4. He won them both.
He would still have to win at least one game for him to get sniped
That's true and why i didn't put him on my anti-team, but JD is worth the same as sOs, herO, Parting, Argo, Jangbi who are all imo more capable of getting 2 or 3 wins in a match.
This was my thinking, he may win one game, but I'm backing on the fact he won't pick up two or three in a row.
your anti will cruch your FPL. Jaedong is a key player of EGTL. It's not a good thing to have an Ace player in your anti even if he is not the best of them
He may be an ace player but I would expect him to be more easily sniped than other ace players because of his struggles against Protoss. He is 5-6 in HotS against Protoss, but 2 of those wins were Verdi at Dreamhack where he also lost 2-1 to Naniwa. His other 2 wins are against Aria and Stork. Hardly the most impressive record for an ace player. There are a lot of Protoss players in kespa and I wouldn't be surprised if a team playing against EG-TL dedicates one of its Protoss players to sniping JD.
Edit: Kop recently qualified for Code A and was put into the line-up for Khan's final 2 matches in round 4. He won them both.
He would still have to win at least one game for him to get sniped
That's true and why i didn't put him on my anti-team, but JD is worth the same as sOs, herO, Parting, Argo, Jangbi who are all imo more capable of getting 2 or 3 wins in a match.
Yes it's true that some 6 pointers are beast far better than JD but we talk about anti team. I prefer Trap or Dear who are not sure to be send every time than JD. And I think JD is not as bad as people say and he will improve quickly. Not to be the best ZvP but to be at least OK
Since it's the all-kill format, snipers and all-kills are important. Innovation is pretty much required, he's just too good. I also took Puzzle since I think 3 is underpriced, and Parting/Reality, because they're both absolutely solid all around players who are capable of multiple wins, and who are difficult to snipe. I took Parting, rather than Innovation as captain for pretty obvious reasons.
Zenio I think is a great ZvZ sniper, and will get fairly consistent play, and will get wins, making 2 points a bargain. Myungsik I think is a better player than his round 4 win/loss ratio indicates since he keeps getting played, and his PvP shows promise. Even if he doesn't get a lot of play/wins though, his team will accumulate points for me, making him a great 1 pointer.
For the antiteam, I'm banking on Jaehoon to fail. It's that simple. I'm not confident about my antiteam, but not sure how else to hit 13 without accumulating too many points.
Oh man, this must have been the hardest round for me to do. All kill format is so weird :D I wanted parting on my Team so bad but i just could not take off my Fantasy and Flash :3 hoping for some all kills from them.I think they can do really well in this format. I tried going for some high pointers and few low pointers, instead of average players since they might not even be played now.
Anti team, oh dear...*pun* Didnt like any of the 4-5-6 point combo's at all. so decided to go ballsy on a high pointer and cross fingers :o
This time around, i chose players that i found to do very well and players who i expect to be "forced" to be played out "I might have misunderstood something, but well, only one way to find out!".
On May 03 2013 12:00 ROOTT1 wrote: i need some help picking my last 2 players, should i go w/ effort+4pter(most likely hyvaa) or herojoin + 3pter(most likely ty)?
I think you should take herO, but for 3 pts, you can have some other players that are better or as good as TY. Cure / Brown for example
brown is gonna lose vs hyvaa and skt is stacked so he wont get alot of playtime, and imo ty is better than cure
you should listen to ppl who placed higher than you every round so far. Hyvaa isnt so good, the only reason he gets points is because hes stx's main zerg so of course he gets playtime. while cure vs ty, if we just look at WoL + hots stats cure has been more solid and he has way better chances to get a multi kill (1-2-3) since hes a starter for t8 + the facts thats hes best terran on t8. while effort vs hero you know hero is more consistant.
TY at 3 pts is only worth on proleague format when he can both play and ACE.
yea hyvaa isnt so good, he only crushed herojoin in the code a qualis and demolished terminator in code a. on top of that hes consistently top 10-20 gm on kr, anywho ill be keeping track of your team
edit: edit u finished 400'ish last season and i was rank 150(and this was after my 7pointer aka hydra failed miserably). the season prior to that you were rank 1860 and i was rank 94.... o_o
On May 04 2013 06:20 opterown wrote: yolo i'm going to anti flash, it's just too hard to put an anti together that i like
flash and two T8 zergs
you are totally going to regret that. :D
i regretted trading bogus for flash last round...if flash plays like he did last round, he might be the best anti XD but yeah, thats a risky gamble to take.
On May 04 2013 06:20 opterown wrote: yolo i'm going to anti flash, it's just too hard to put an anti together that i like
flash and two T8 zergs
you are totally going to regret that. :D
i regretted trading bogus for flash last round...if flash plays like he did last round, he might be the best anti XD but yeah, thats a risky gamble to take.
so hard to pick anti for winner's league
Flash got 11 points last round and he will probably play enough to get at least that many this round.
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(Vote): No, get _______ as an ace instead. (Vote): No, keep your team more or less the same with maybe a few modifications (Vote): Yes, take away sOs and herO (Vote): Yes, take away sOs and Zest (Vote): Yes, take away sOs and Argo (Vote): Yes, take away Zest and herO (Vote): Yes, take away Zest and Argo (Vote): Yes, take away herO and Argo
On May 04 2013 06:20 opterown wrote: yolo i'm going to anti flash, it's just too hard to put an anti together that i like
flash and two T8 zergs
you are totally going to regret that. :D
i regretted trading bogus for flash last round...if flash plays like he did last round, he might be the best anti XD but yeah, thats a risky gamble to take.
so hard to pick anti for winner's league
Flash got 11 points last round and he will probably play enough to get at least that many this round.
11 for 7 is a great deal considering i won't get much, if at all from my other two
On May 04 2013 06:20 opterown wrote: yolo i'm going to anti flash, it's just too hard to put an anti together that i like
flash and two T8 zergs
you are totally going to regret that. :D
i regretted trading bogus for flash last round...if flash plays like he did last round, he might be the best anti XD but yeah, thats a risky gamble to take.
so hard to pick anti for winner's league
Flash got 11 points last round and he will probably play enough to get at least that many this round.
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Your vote: Should I get Bogus?
(Vote): No, get _______ as an ace instead. (Vote): No, keep your team more or less the same with maybe a few modifications (Vote): Yes, take away sOs and herO (Vote): Yes, take away sOs and Zest (Vote): Yes, take away sOs and Argo (Vote): Yes, take away Zest and herO (Vote): Yes, take away Zest and Argo (Vote): Yes, take away herO and Argo
ah yes, he did good before my trade...but after my trade he won maybe 1 game... i traded bogus for flash because that week, flash had 2 games and bogus had 1 game. i figured i could trade back since they were even in points at the time of trade...i could have been in top 100 if i didnt trade away bogus T.T
I tried to grab as many all-killers as possible: Innovation, Flash, Free, Hydra. The only one I didn't get was Zest. Made Innovation captain because his play is sick and he might turn out to be my favorite player (and I favor Terrans). Paralyze looked like a good 2-point pick up, and with the last point I chose Hanbin because I wanted someone super young on the team (he's 17). Then I chose SKT because they've got some great players, they've been doing well so far, and they have Boxer.
Argo on anti team....
Humm i did that last season and i regret it pretty hard,good luck man :p
Haha, thanks. I could change it, but... heh, let's take the gamble! And if I suffer, then you can at least rest soundly that someone else will have shared your pain
The goal is to have sOs, Baby, or Effort to rack up the points so I can trade them for players like Rain, Innovation, or Soulkey. Hopefully I won't be bogged down in work, I always missed the trade deadlines last time and did pretty bad as a result.
I also can't believe JYP was only 3 points. He will surely make an appearance and stomp some faces.
That's a pretty team (and it looks suspiciously like mine...) but that anti-team seems really risky. TY could make a comeback any time, Zest is on a hot streak, and Mini looks like he might actually be good.
Brown - Solid 3 pointer that will open in week one and has done well for SKT in Round 4. And will get SKT team points which is good.
Cure - Thrives in all-kill and I think he will shine on the lackluster Team 8.
Innovation - Been my favorite player since the start and is so good. Worries me a bit since everyone is picking him but I doubt he'll do poorly.
Roro - Amazing player. Not picked by too many people from what I have seen and I think he will get a lot of points in all-kill. Worried that Khan coaches will play him late but even so, he will likely be able to reap Ace wins.
Mekia - Best for 2 points because has a 1-1 record, will get WJS team points, and plays first in the first week. Hopefully I can trade for a better player after a potential win in week one.
Puzzle - Always been a fan and I am sure he'll pay for a cost of 3 if KT actually plays him.
Samsung Khan - Thought about going with Snute instead of Mekia and getting SKT but I feel players like RorO, Jangbi and Reality will lead Khan to glory (for 3 points) in all- kill style.
Anti team is near impossible to pick accurately so I made the best of it after thought out deliberation.
free - Good player but WJS is too stacked for him to get much play time.
Mini - Would have gone with stork but Khan coaches seem to still have faith in him. Hoping Mini will get less play time in All-Kill if Innovation, Dear and Classic kill everyone before he gets a chance to play. All the 4 pointers have potential though so hard to say.
Crazy - Also a risky choice but all the 5 pointers are potentially really strong. With the addition of Puzzle, I think that Flash, Wooki, Stats, Puzzle/Hitman could reduce his playtime. Also with Crazy's previous poor results in Round 2, I think he is a better choice than Light (only Terran for WJS), ZerO, etc.
Taeja was another possibility but After being knocked out of Code S, he'll be able to play more with his condition. Also Coach Park is so smart and will likely convince him to play vs STX since they are opening with Innovation. Team Taeja is too risky in all kill
Hoping I chose well after being so close to my goal last season (darn Hydra doing well after I put him on my Anti) :D
This team basically relies on Innovation/Roro/sOs killing everybody. Huk and Snute were picked because they're 1 point and might see some action (which is more than I can say for most 1 pointers). I grabbed S2 because he's a week 1 starter and I feel like he should at least win his first game. And I picked Khan because I could afford 3 points for the team, and I think they're better than KT.
As for the anti-team, aLive hasn't impressed me since week 1 of the last round. I don't think Hitman will play and Crazy because I needed a 5 pointer (this may come back to bite me in the ass).
After much revision, I decided to go top-heavy like there's no tomorrow. This feels slightly suicidal, but it also might pay off in spades. Also switched out s2 for Cure just because Cure's on a worse team and thus more likely to see playtime later on.
Main Team 6 herO[jOin] <- Supergood protoss that will probably be in every CJ lineup due to the teams possition. 2 Mekia(fOKINS) <- Plays in maybe the best team in PL and is fielded in game 2 week 1 vs Bbyong of CJ. CJ is not playing well overall right now so maybe this player can rack up some wins if he does get past Bbyong wich should be doable. Worth taking a shot for 2 points. 6 Parting (captain) <- Saw his play in GSL group B, turned games from far behind to wins time after time completely without gimmicky play. Probably does very well with excelent decisionmaking in games where he isnt able to prepare for oponent or map. 3 s2 <- Starting for SKT in game 1 vs Cure of T8, mach he could very well win and maybe rack up a few more against a relativly weak T8. Planning to trade vs SoO later if SoO is eliminated from Code S. 6 sOs(Shy) <- Top protoss in the world, hopefully his team m8s will let him get off the bench and play some games. I feel the risk is that they wont but otherwise very worthy player for 6p. 3 TY(Baby) Very talanted Terran player well worth the 3p, probably will get to play alot in his team. 4 SK Telecom T1 <- I dont see them losing to anyone but INnoVation in winners league.
The goal is to have sOs, Baby, or Effort to rack up the points so I can trade them for players like Rain, Innovation, or Soulkey. Hopefully I won't be bogged down in work, I always missed the trade deadlines last time and did pretty bad as a result.
I also can't believe JYP was only 3 points. He will surely make an appearance and stomp some faces.
I'm not sure Puzzle is a particularly efficient anti-team pick at 3 points.
The goal is to have sOs, Baby, or Effort to rack up the points so I can trade them for players like Rain, Innovation, or Soulkey. Hopefully I won't be bogged down in work, I always missed the trade deadlines last time and did pretty bad as a result.
I also can't believe JYP was only 3 points. He will surely make an appearance and stomp some faces.
I'm not sure Puzzle is a particularly efficient anti-team pick at 3 points.
Neither are Free or Stats. Having any Protoss on your anti in proleague is a bad idea.
In all-kill format, there's value in top tier players. As far as I can tell, the prices do not seem to take into take this into account. Thus, I have chosen 3 top-tier players: herO, RorO, and sOs. Two of them are protoss, which is good, as HOTS results thus far seem to favor protoss. RorO has not lost in previous round and is a red hot player. Samsung and CJ Entus (RorO and herO) also play twice every week until the week 4. I plan on trading him then to get most value out of expensive players. This way I can have my top players playing 8 times total. sOs plays twice until week 3, so I will have to trade him after first two weeks... which is fine. As I can trade him into someone who plays twice on following weeks until the end of this round...like Stats or even Rain (as it's possible sOs's price to rise).
Other players, I didn't consider trading them. So I have Cure and Terminator who only play once this week. But I plan on holding them until the end of the round (as trade tax on lower tier players may not be worth it). But because they only play once, the price seems to be deflated at this point. Only 3 points for each. I would have expected 4. Kop is sort of a non-conventional pick, but he has won last two games and he looked strong in my eyes.
As for team, CJ entus at 1 pt seems undervalued, especially since they play twice every week first 3 weeks. Then I can possibly trade the team to EGTL or Team-8. This may have to do be done after week 2, depending on what I do with RorO and herO, since I get max 2 trades a week.
I picked 3 EGTL players. EGTL is the worst team and they only play once this week. Taeja may not play at all despite him not making out of his Code S group. He does have an injury. If he does play, I plan on trading him after week 1, into another player who only plays once on week 2. Personally I don't think Oz is very good and being in EGTL means that he will likely not accrue bonus points from the team win. Alive....... he is of some concern.
Also, to me, it doesn't matter if I make top 500 or top 1000. But it would be exciting to be placed in the top 100 or even top 10. Thus, I would like to place all of my anti-team players in one "basket". This way. Having all 3 EGTL teams means that their outcomes are not independent. Meaning I need to get lucky, but not as lucky as if I put 3 players from 3 different teams.
The goal is to have sOs, Baby, or Effort to rack up the points so I can trade them for players like Rain, Innovation, or Soulkey. Hopefully I won't be bogged down in work, I always missed the trade deadlines last time and did pretty bad as a result.
I also can't believe JYP was only 3 points. He will surely make an appearance and stomp some faces.
I'm not sure Puzzle is a particularly efficient anti-team pick at 3 points.
Neither are Free or Stats. Having any Protoss on your anti in proleague is a bad idea.
Except Free's barely going to play considering how strong/deep Stars are. Stats is also likely to be in a timeshare with puzzle/wooki. Also seeing people anti a 3 pt Baby makes me cringe, there are far safer 3 pointers and Baby is AK capable.
@the guy above: games remaining is factored into trade values so I'd be careful about that kind of logic
SK Telecom T1 is easy choice, their line up is so stacked it hurts Bisu got me some good points last round and he is still only 3 points so i think he will do it again
Cure is my necessary Terran and I think he is slightly undervalued at 3
Flying is a Code S protoss easy pick up for only 4
Hitman played really well last round so hopefully he can do it again
Parting and Jaedong are the wombocombo, JD is only EGTL to go positive last round so I know he will play a lot and parting is parting.
Hydra is doing terribly both in PL and in Code A as well as he ruined my team last season.
Taeja hasn't been playing much but if he does I'll switch him off
s2 doesn't seem all that great and their are so many other protoss i don't think he will see a lot of playing time.
Well, I chose trap for my anti-team... although my teams generally place around #500 out of 3000... HerO seems like more of a vital part of EG-TL in my opinion.
damnnn, Fantasy on your anti?? that's crazy bro, he played so well last round and in HoTS so far.
But the people he beat, hyvaa, oz, zero, effort, ty, isn't too impressive.
Fantasy has been so consistent in FPL. He'll get 15-20 pts at least and is AK capable. There are way better anti picks out there.
Completely agree, if you think Fantasy's opponent isn't impressive than the same can be said for a lot of the other top players. Both Fantasy (since getting out of that losing streak) and Zest have been relatively consistent as of recently. Picking them both seem ill advised as you're much better off lowering your top 2 antis and then replace the 1 pointer with a 3-4 pointer that is likely to flop.
The goal is to have sOs, Baby, or Effort to rack up the points so I can trade them for players like Rain, Innovation, or Soulkey. Hopefully I won't be bogged down in work, I always missed the trade deadlines last time and did pretty bad as a result.
I also can't believe JYP was only 3 points. He will surely make an appearance and stomp some faces.
I'm not sure Puzzle is a particularly efficient anti-team pick at 3 points.
Neither are Free or Stats. Having any Protoss on your anti in proleague is a bad idea.
Really? Picking an anti-team has always been my folly during FPL. Last round my main team scored ~90 points but my anti was at 40.
My reason for Puzzle is that I do not expect to see him used much during this round. KT needs to make top 4 and they aren't going to risk sending out a playing like Puzzle once the match heats up.
I don't expect Stats to be a starter during this round, I think he is most likely to go up against star players from other teams but he will get smacked down. I don't know much about Free, I'm pretty sure WJS has other capable players for winners round than him.
The goal is to have sOs, Baby, or Effort to rack up the points so I can trade them for players like Rain, Innovation, or Soulkey. Hopefully I won't be bogged down in work, I always missed the trade deadlines last time and did pretty bad as a result.
I also can't believe JYP was only 3 points. He will surely make an appearance and stomp some faces.
I'm not sure Puzzle is a particularly efficient anti-team pick at 3 points.
Neither are Free or Stats. Having any Protoss on your anti in proleague is a bad idea.
Really? Picking an anti-team has always been my folly during FPL. Last round my main team scored ~90 points but my anti was at 40.
My reason for Puzzle is that I do not expect to see him used much during this round. KT needs to make top 4 and they aren't going to risk sending out a playing like Puzzle once the match heats up.
I don't expect Stats to be a starter during this round, I think he is most likely to go up against star players from other teams but he will get smacked down. I don't know much about Free, I'm pretty sure WJS has other capable players for winners round than him.
Yeah Stats and Free are questionable. Stats is pretty damn good and consistent, he'll probably get to play every week. Free is slightly scary as well because even though WJS has a lot of depth, if Free gets send out he could go on rampage like last time it was winners league.
The goal is to have sOs, Baby, or Effort to rack up the points so I can trade them for players like Rain, Innovation, or Soulkey. Hopefully I won't be bogged down in work, I always missed the trade deadlines last time and did pretty bad as a result.
I also can't believe JYP was only 3 points. He will surely make an appearance and stomp some faces.
I'm not sure Puzzle is a particularly efficient anti-team pick at 3 points.
Neither are Free or Stats. Having any Protoss on your anti in proleague is a bad idea.
Really? Picking an anti-team has always been my folly during FPL. Last round my main team scored ~90 points but my anti was at 40.
My reason for Puzzle is that I do not expect to see him used much during this round. KT needs to make top 4 and they aren't going to risk sending out a playing like Puzzle once the match heats up.
I don't expect Stats to be a starter during this round, I think he is most likely to go up against star players from other teams but he will get smacked down. I don't know much about Free, I'm pretty sure WJS has other capable players for winners round than him.
Yeah Stats and Free are questionable. Stats is pretty damn good and consistent, he'll probably get to play every week. Free is slightly scary as well because even though WJS has a lot of depth, if Free gets send out he could go on rampage like last time it was winners league.
See! This is my dilemma, I never know who to pick for my anti-team.
Can someone give me some last minute advice? i would really really really appreciate it. I got 4 players i feel could be the ace of their team, and CJ trust, who just beat dream in code A, and Snute, who i feel could be used as a sniper
Ok I did pretty well last round, made top 100, so I'm really hoping to extend that, though of course all-kill rounds are different and weird... Tried very hard to spread myself across as many teams as possible, since generally in an all-kill round playing spots are already sparse, and a player on one team doing well sucks spots from other players on that team.
Classic - wouldn't have switched races if he wasn't really good in the new one, right? Showed it by going 4-1 last round. A little risky since he may not get playing time on a team with Innovation, Dear, and Trap. At 5 points, fairly priced.
Cure (Speed) - one of the best players last all-kill round. Only 2-4 last round, but the only T8 player better is Argo (Jaehoon), so I expect him to get playing time. Only 3 points, so a cheap pickup.
herO[jOin] - Solid at 5-4 last round, though 0-2 in aces. Still, CJ's best player last round (also evidenced by the fact that he was tapped for those ace matches), so he will definitely get playing time. At 6 points, a fair deal, maybe a little expensive for his worth.
Solar - Riskiest pick. I don't know why, but for some reason I like the guy, ever since he took out the much-hyped Stephano in his first ever Proleague match. Has twice in a row made it through the Code A preliminaries. Although he was knocked out in ro48 both times, it was by legendary players (Flash and Fantasy). January was willing to start him last all-kill round, and Jangbi had some very nice things to say about him in a winner's interview, here's to hoping he breaks out. At 3 points, a little expensive I think.
soO - Very consistent player, I suspect last round was a fluke. He is also ro16 GSL Code S, which is quite impressive. SKT1 is a very deep team, but he does stand out as the best zerg. At 3 points, extremely cheap.
sOs(Shy) - Trending as a contender for best Protoss in the world. Solid last round with 4-3. Achieved ro8 in GSL Code S with 4-1 over Bomber and Taeja. His team does have superstar Soulkey, and 2 players roughly on his level (Proleague results-wise) in Light and ZerO so there is a remote possibility he won't get much playing time, but at 6 points he looks to be cheap for his worth.
SKT T1 - I expect this team of superstars to do well in all-kill format - Parting, Rain, Fantasy can all definitely all-kill, with soO slightly below them in ability, and a very solid supporting cast who I could all see picking up a win or two: Sacri, s2, Bisu, Paralyze, and Brown.
Anti I took the approach of betting on 1 high point player to fall short, and 2 middling players who hopefully won't get playing time. This time I picked Jaedong since it seems he can get sniped by Protosses, and last all-kill round he only went 2-2, one of those matches being indeed sniped by T8's top Toss Argo. (though in that game JD tried some cheese which failed miserably, as I recall) Also, EGTL got more players to try in their lineup (Oz, aLive, Snute, maybe Taeja since he's out of GSL now) and I'm hoping JYP and Revival will get rotated back in. A gamble for sure, since Jaedong did pretty well last round (5-4 and 1-1 aces) The other two players I don't know as much about, they just seemed like the most obscure players for their cost, and Woongjin is a really deep team so I don't think they'll get spots.
Finally, on the team name, I continued with my trend of awful Starcraft/literary puns.
Let's see how this will do. At first I was actually considering putting 3- and 4-pointers like Free on main since he did really well in all-kill Round 2. But in the end I decided to put as many 6-point players on my main team as possible as they seem to be rather strong for their various teams and a good value at that. It's a shame I had no more room for Wooki and herO[jOin], but oh well. Picked 4-pointer Hydra instead who I hope will return to shape again and show a similar performance to Round 2. Snute is basically just a filler at 1 point to function as the non-tradable captain. Maybe he will even be sent out for a game or two (as a sniper, who knows) in the first two weeks he is in Korea until he will have to go to NYC for his WCS America Ro16 offline matches. Worst case he will simply only pick up team win points should EG-TL actually win matches (go go miracle!). With so many points spent on players, I went with 1-pointer CJ who I feel are undervalued as a team.
Anti team is always a delicate matter for all-kill rounds unfortunately. Initially, I meant to put TaeJa as the big-pointer in a 6-4-3 pick on anti. But he may see some more play this round (all-kill suits him as we know) now that he is no longer in GSL. He also is the only player that Bogus has never beaten and so may actually come out to stop him if HerO falls short this week. I also planned to go with Flying as anti pick as he will be playing in Code S Ro16 soon and there are several other Protoss options for WJS. But eventually I settled on a 5-4-4 pick specifically with Crazy-Hydra and HitmaN who I feel are overpriced and may not see much play, less so success. Same with Mini who competes with several other better Protoss in STX.
I feel Innovation, Parting and sOs are all capable of picking up multiple kills whenever they get the chance (and Parting at 6 is quite cheap imo)
I'm not very confident in the anti though. It's quite a gamble but I'm hoping for the best.
Oh man, innovation, parting and sOs? This team is looking scary, great picks imo.
Yes, but his other players won't ever play. Plus Zero and Alive could really fuck up his anti team.
S2 will definitly get some play. He's starting this week, and I wouldn't be suprised to see him again during the season. Action is KT's #2 zerg so might get thrown out. Or hitman might take all his work. That's a gamble I know. Bear was just the 1point guy I liked the most. Don't expect much from him other than wins from STX.
As for aLive I'm confident he'll be focused enough on WCS AM to not contribute that much, and I doubt EGTL will win more than 1-2 matches. ZerO is the biggest gamble I admit, I'm just hoping he doesn't get going. However Stars have enough good player that he might not get sent out at all.
On May 03 2013 12:00 ROOTT1 wrote: i need some help picking my last 2 players, should i go w/ effort+4pter(most likely hyvaa) or herojoin + 3pter(most likely ty)?
I think you should take herO, but for 3 pts, you can have some other players that are better or as good as TY. Cure / Brown for example
brown is gonna lose vs hyvaa and skt is stacked so he wont get alot of playtime, and imo ty is better than cure
you should listen to ppl who placed higher than you every round so far. Hyvaa isnt so good, the only reason he gets points is because hes stx's main zerg so of course he gets playtime. while cure vs ty, if we just look at WoL + hots stats cure has been more solid and he has way better chances to get a multi kill (1-2-3) since hes a starter for t8 + the facts thats hes best terran on t8. while effort vs hero you know hero is more consistant.
TY at 3 pts is only worth on proleague format when he can both play and ACE.
Sorry if this is a bit off topic, but who is the person on the most right in the Fantasy Starcraft banner? From what I see its Jangbi, Jaedong, Zero, and Flash. Maybe its just a bad angle but I don't recognize the last person. Could someone fill me in.
EPT
Argo(Jaehoon)
hyvaa
Swift
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Oz instead of Action? What is this!
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