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Kommatiazo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States579 Posts
May 03 2013 00:12 GMT
#61
On May 03 2013 07:27 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 07:13 Kommatiazo wrote:
On May 03 2013 07:00 Wintex wrote:
Leta in my heart

Main Team
3 (P)Brown
3 (T)Cure(Speed)
5 (Z)Effort
6 (P)herO[jOin]
8 (T)Innovation(Bogus) (captain)
4 (P)Stork
1 CJ Entus

Anti Team
4 (P)free
3 (T)Kop
6 (T)TaeJa

How is this one? Which changes are the smartest to make?
+ Show Spoiler +


Personally I think you've chosen pretty damn well. My only nitpick is that you have Innovation as your captain. I always try to have my cheapest player as captain as they are basically untradeable anyway, and a high point player like Innovation is likely to be tradeable for the whole round of FPL for essentailly any player. Not that I would condone trading Innovation EVER, it's just a strategy I try to adopt to keep my options as open as possible.

Side note, this one I'm unsure about (hell I've only ever done FPL since SC2 so what do I know?), but choosing to save points in the team category versus on a player is a bad (not wrong) choice IMO. This is because a low rated team is likely to lose more right? And teams (unlike your main team players) actually count AGAINST you when they lose. So if you can choose a team that is more likely to win, but costs a few more points and cut difference out of one of your players you won't be getting any negative points when they underperform, you just won't get any points at all. I have no actual data to support this theory though, so take all of this with a nice big grain of salt.

You have a really balanced team points wise, with no over loading on heavy hitters (sort of what I did) so taking a hit on the team side of things is more reasonable. Like I said though, I think you chose well overall. And if this All-Kill round is as volatile as last All-Kill PL and GSTL this season were, choosing CJ for 1 point might well turn out to be a godsend.

Thanks! When it comes to the CJ thing, I picked it because I can't pick Leta, which I've done every time no matter what. That, and the fact that I picked 2 CJ players that will probably play every time (if not for an all kill by one of them), so I want CJ. Who should I make my captain then, and how is the Anti Team?


Loading up on players of one team or another is a risky play IMO. Especially a low rated team like CJ. If CJ does bad, that's half your team that's doing bad, but if they do great, even if your players aren't playing in the matches they'll pick up spare team win points. I prefer to go for the spread out 1, maybe 2, members from any one team. But I have let my fanboy heart get in the way of my head as I've sported 75% KT, EG-TL, and SKT T1 teams in the different rounds lmao. What can I say, I'm a fanboy of basically everyone. And I'd just go with your most solid 3 or 4 point player as captain. But really, having Innovation all season will be a net gain guaranteed, so you might not bother swapping as its your other, less consistent players that are going to be of trade-interest later on.

I think your anti is solid. The way I see it there are two ways to make an anti team. #1 Get one big player and gamble that they aren't played often/don't win when they do. This is risky since players aren't assigned high cost who are bad/don't play often, but can pay off in that you can afford to pick up one or two really low cost no name players on a bad team that will hopefully never get you anti-points. #2 You go for 3 balanced players point wise (4-4-5, or 6-5-3, etc.) and try to pick players that aren't played often/are inconsistent when they do play. I prefer the #2 option, which is basically what you went for too, so I can't disagree with your anti choices. I too went with Taeja, banking on his wrists staying injured/focusing on WCS NA etc.

I have to add though that hoping Taeja stays injured for my own FPL needs feels really wrong. I want him to heal and crush nerd souls forever and ever again so badly. I'll trade him onto my main ASAP if that starts to happen though lol.
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Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 00:15:35
May 03 2013 00:13 GMT
#62
Dragons Reborn

Main Team
4 (T)Bbyong
3 (P)Brown
3 (T)Cure(Speed)
5 (Z)Effort (captain)
6 (P)sOs(Shy)
6 (P)Zest(P7GAB)
3 Samsung Khan

Anti Team
3 (Z)Check(ALBM)
4 (P)free
6 (P)Trap

I tried to get either starters or aces for the team, players who are gonna play all the time.

(Z)EffOrt, (P)sOs and (P)Zest are the ones who are gonna play all the time - sOs is imo one of, if not the most, underrated player for the entire round (lol sOs being worth less then Flash). He is also pretty much guaranteed to play for WJS (if other players don't kill the opposing team before he is ready). Effort is Zerg ace for CJ I guess, after Hydra forgot to learn to play HotS. And Zest has pretty good matchup for the first round, also should be playing some for KT. In this case I still didnt decide if I should keep him or get JangBi.

(T)Bbyong, (P)Brown and (T)Cure are starters, who I fell should win at least the first game. Cure was pretty decent last all-kill round, hoping he will play some for T8 and get kills. Bbyong also decent terran and should be playing for CJ, since he is the best T there. And Brown is there really just for his starting match, looking to trade him asap (or he will lose and I am fucked).

Samsung Khan was picked mostly due to having RorO and JangBi, I feel they are very good 2 hit combo + Reality and Stork as backup and Shine for cheesing out opponent aces. Will see, I hope they will perform at least as good as last all-kill round.

As far as anti goes, I was trying to choose players who I think will not be playing much, because they are only 3rd or 4th choices of their races in their teams.

What do you think? Any changes you would make?

Poll: Should I get Zest or JangBi?

JangBi (13)
 
72%

Zest (5)
 
28%

18 total votes

Your vote: Should I get Zest or JangBi?

(Vote): Zest
(Vote): JangBi

JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
Kommatiazo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States579 Posts
May 03 2013 00:21 GMT
#63
I lean towards Zest just a tad in current performance. In potential I like JangBi a lot more. If he gets an all kill or scores a good run one round you'll be able to trade up possibly too, which I think is a greater likelihood with JangBi than with Zest. Especially as Zest has more competition for playing time IMO.
"You must enemy don't know, and very good micro" - Bosstoss #Wet4Ret
Ry2D2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States429 Posts
May 03 2013 00:22 GMT
#64
The Jedi Council

Main Team
4 (T)aLive
6 (P)Argo(Jaehoon)
6 (P)herO[jOin] (captain)
4 (Z)Hydra
3 (Z)soO
6 (P)sOs(Shy)
1 CJ Entus

Anti Team
7 (P)Dear
3 (T)Kop
3 (Z)Solar(BBatta)

Dear had an exceptionally good round in R4 but I feel like STX has several up and comming protosses and they'll still be heavily reliant on Innovation so Dear might not get a lot of play time necessarily. Even assuming he is the best toss on STX I don't feel he is that great for a 7.

For my main team I just tried to get a good diversity of players from different teams, namely cheap players that I think are good and going to play a lot.
Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
May 03 2013 01:14 GMT
#65
The Chimp Coalition

Main Team
4 (T)Bbyong
3 (P)Bisu (captain)
3 (P)Brown
6 (Z)Jaedong
6 (P)Parting
4 (P)Stork
4 SK Telecom T1

Anti Team
5 (P)Classic
5 (T)Light
3 (P)Puzzle

In the right thread this time
xXQVNTPUNCHERXx
Profile Joined May 2013
United States1 Post
May 03 2013 01:25 GMT
#66
WOOOLI

Main Team
3 (P)Bisu
3 (T)Cure(Speed)
5 (Z)Effort
7 (T)Fantasy
3 (P)Puzzle
6 (P)Stats (captain)
3 KT Rolster

Anti Team
4 (P)free
4 (Z)hyvaa
5 (T)Light
I AM WIN
SupaDupaFlyPro
Profile Joined May 2013
Italy47 Posts
May 03 2013 01:26 GMT
#67
A-Team

Main Team
2 (Z)Action
2 (P)Aria(NaGi)
3 (P)Brown
8 (T)Innovation(Bogus) (captain)
6 (P)Parting
6 (P)sOs(Shy)
3 KT Rolster

Anti Team
5 (Z)Effort
6 (P)HerO
3 (P)Oz
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
May 03 2013 01:40 GMT
#68
WoongjinPrime

Main Team
4 (P)Flying
4 (Z)hyvaa
8 (T)Innovation(Bogus) (captain)
3 (T)Kop
3 (T)Last
3 (T)TY(Baby)
5 Woongjin Stars

Anti Team
7 (P)Dear
5 (Z)Effort
1 (P)Huk
rip prime
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 03 2013 01:43 GMT
#69
Swagshock1122

Main Team
3 (T)Bravo(sin)
5 (Z)Effort
4 (P)Flying
6 (P)JangBi
1 (T)Organ(Piano)
6 (P)sOs(Shy) (captain)
5 Woongjin Stars

Anti Team
3 (P)Bong
4 (Z)Hitman
6 (T)TaeJa

I just picked mostly people I like. Not good at this anyways so just filling it out for fun :D
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Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 01:46:02
May 03 2013 01:45 GMT
#70
On May 03 2013 05:13 JohnAdams wrote:
Your team is weak, Templar. Sorry.
SKYNEWS

Main Team
6 (P)Argo(Jaehoon) (captain)
5 (Z)Effort
7 (T)Flash
1 (Z)hOpe
1 (T)Organ(Piano)
8 (P)Rain
1 Team 8

Anti Team
3 (P)Bong
6 (Z)Jaedong
4 (P)Mini
Behold my team with 4 ace players and 2 players that were randomly selected.


How could you ever put EG-TL's strongest player on your anti-team, lol?

JD forever!
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
Cartman_
Profile Joined July 2012
119 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 02:10:14
May 03 2013 01:49 GMT
#71
Cartman

Main Team
3 (T)Cure(Speed)
7 (T)Fantasy (captain)
8 (T)Innovation(Bogus)
1 (T)Major
1 (Z)Snute
6 (P)sOs(Shy)
4 SK Telecom T1

Anti Team
5 (Z)Crazy
4 (Z)Hitman
4 (Z)Hydra

Team : (T)FanTaSy is just my favourite player ... So I'll pick him every single Time and I'll never Trade him !!! Then comes (T)INnoVation ... It was either him or Soulkey or Rain ^^ ... But Bogus is a Terran so I had to pick him (and also because he's a Beast and he plays for an other team than SKT1, so I don't have 2 aces players of the same team). (P)sOs is one of the Best Protoss player out there and you have him for 6pts ... (T)Cure was really good during round 2 (also allkill format) and did 50-50 since then. I think he's a good player and he can pick a lot of win.
Finally I had to take two 1pts players because I had to take SKT1 ^^. So i took (Z)Snute & (T)MajOr. I don't think MajOr's going to play, but Snute might be, I feel like he's better than HuK, ThorZaIN, Zenio, JYP ... So he might be able to play and win some games !

Antis : (Z)Crazy & (Z)Hydra didn't do well last round and I hope it'll continue like that. I doubt (Z)hitmaN will be sent before Flash, Stats, Zest(Wooki) or Crazy and even if he does, I don't really think that he'll win too much.
| SK Telecom T1 | --- | Bisu & BoxeR Forever, FanTaSy, INnoVation, Dark, soO, Dream <3 |
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
May 03 2013 02:01 GMT
#72
Road to Redemption
Alternate name: Team All-Kill

Main Team
7 (T)Flash
1 (P)Huk
8 (T)Innovation(Bogus) (captain)
6 (Z)Jaedong
6 (P)Parting
1 (Z)Snute
1 CJ Entus

Anti Team
5 (Z)Crazy
2 (Z)Dark
6 (P)Stats

It's Winners League, so it's time to go all-in on people you KNOW are going to get played and have the potential to sweep. I really hope EG-TL pulls it out, too, but I think the other teams have scarier aces... (it didn't used to be like that!)
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Spriki
Profile Joined April 2012
216 Posts
May 03 2013 02:08 GMT
#73
PvP is Boring

Main Team
6 (P)Argo(Jaehoon)
3 (P)Brown
1 (T)Bunny
5 (Z)Effort
8 (T)Innovation(Bogus) (captain)
6 (P)sOs(Shy)
1 CJ Entus

Anti Team
4 (Z)Hitman
3 (P)JYP
6 (T)Reality

I've got four possible multi-kill players (including the consensus "best terran in the world") plus Brown, who's starting this week, and Bunny, who had a great code A debut

As for the anti-team, JYP gonna JYP, can't do anything about that
Reality is rarely fielded and if on the rare occasion that he is fielded, it's a hit or miss, mostly a miss (I'm still pretty nervous about him killing multiple guys so I might trade him in the first week if things go downhill)
Hitman is the same as reality, can't rake up wins when it counts
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 02:09:09
May 03 2013 02:08 GMT
#74
Kiwi

Main Team
3 (P)Bisu
7 (T)Flash
1 (Z)HoeJJa
2 (P)ParalyzE
6 (P)Parting (captain)
8 (P)Rain
3 Samsung Khan

Anti Team
3 (P)JYP
4 (P)Mini
6 (T)Reality

Surprised by the amount of people that took Snute. Perhaps because it's a 1 point zerg?
Refer to my post.
darksub
Profile Joined July 2010
Argentina302 Posts
May 03 2013 02:22 GMT
#75
i dont know if keep hydra
divide et vinces
DcTceremony
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom37 Posts
May 03 2013 02:29 GMT
#76
Boats and HoeJJas

Main Team
1 (T)BarrackS
7 (T)Flash
6 (P)herO[jOin]
1 (Z)HoeJJa (captain)
8 (T)Innovation(Bogus)
6 (P)sOs(Shy)
1 CJ Entus

Anti Team
4 (T)aLive
6 (Z)Jaedong
3 (P)Oz


BarrackS - I hope he's good because his name suggests he will make a lot of barracks and they make marines who are monstrously OP
Flash - He has a good jawline and I like his hair
herO - I picked him because I like to support Team Liquid
HoeJJa - I really like his name
Innovation(Bogus) - He has a really long name so I'm thinking he must be good because he wouldn't be allowed such a long weird name otherwise
sOs(Shy) - sOs is very good and it says he is shy so hopefully he will quietly practice a lot
CJ Entus - I picked CJ Entus because they are very cheap but sound like a basketball player or a golf player so they are probably really good

my anti team are all on EG-TL because Evil Geniuses is a bit of a rubbish name like one I would have made on WoW when I was 11 and I wasn't very good at WoW so I hope they aren't either.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 02:31:21
May 03 2013 02:30 GMT
#77
On May 03 2013 10:45 Qwyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 05:13 JohnAdams wrote:
Your team is weak, Templar. Sorry.
SKYNEWS

Main Team
6 (P)Argo(Jaehoon) (captain)
5 (Z)Effort
7 (T)Flash
1 (Z)hOpe
1 (T)Organ(Piano)
8 (P)Rain
1 Team 8

Anti Team
3 (P)Bong
6 (Z)Jaedong
4 (P)Mini
Behold my team with 4 ace players and 2 players that were randomly selected.


How could you ever put EG-TL's strongest player on your anti-team, lol?

JD forever!

I asked him and he said he laughs at my main team's hope last round in Jaedong, so he picked it to spite me.
...which means he'll change it tomorrow.
(he wasn't near a computer so couldn't respond himself)
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408xParadox
Profile Joined December 2011
United States140 Posts
May 03 2013 02:31 GMT
#78
Idra's Attitude

Main Team
3 (P)Brown
5 (P)Classic
2 (Z)Dark
5 (Z)Effort
4 (P)Flying
8 (T)Innovation(Bogus) (captain)
3 Samsung Khan

Anti Team
3 (P)Best
3 (P)Bisu
7 (P)Dear


Innovation as my captain I think is a no brainer. Guys a beast. Flying for 4 points? This guy was Code S this season! Effort, Code A =, overall just a monster. Brown and Dark, both players that came out for Slayers a lot in online team leagues during their darker days, and they both killed it. Low cost and high potential, also been coming out for SKT a lot this last round. Classic, Kind of expensive, but overall he has just been a solid player from what I have seen.Hopefully he impresses thios round.

As for the anti-team, none of these players have really impressed me all that much. Dear was doing really well in the early rounds, but I haven't seen a lot from him recently. Bisu, and Best, just mediocre players that with SKT's insane toss lineup I don't see them getting a lot of spots to play.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 06:10:14
May 03 2013 02:32 GMT
#79
Nom Nom Nom

Main Team
2 (Z)Dark
4 (P)Flying
8 (T)Innovation(Bogus) (captain)
3 (T)Last
3 (P)Puzzle
6 (P)sOs(Shy)
4 SK Telecom T1

Main team is pretty straight forward, Innovation, Flying, sOs are all solid streaky players, with Last and Dark serves as decent snipers, Puzzle is a bet after watching his DH performance, I believe he is going to be better and better. For the team SKT1 is a great choice in WL format for their insane Protoss ace line up backed with Fantasy, Brown and Dark.

Anti Team
3 (Z)Check(ALBM)
4 (Z)Hydra
6 (Z)Jaedong

The Anti is also easy to understand, those Zergs are not going to play that well in the WL format, with a Jaedong mixed in for his weakness in the Protoss sea that is Proleague.
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DcTceremony
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom37 Posts
May 03 2013 02:34 GMT
#80
On May 03 2013 11:32 digmouse wrote:
Nom Nom Nom

Main Team
4 (P)Flying
8 (T)Innovation(Bogus) (captain)
3 (T)Last
3 (P)Puzzle
6 (P)sOs(Shy)
2 (Z)Zenio
4 SK Telecom T1


There appears to be an error with your team you have listed Zenio but he doesn't win games so you might want to fix that
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