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Top 50 streamers in April 2013 (+ WCS/GSTL/SPL!)

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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 10:44:32
May 01 2013 16:32 GMT
#1
Welcome this month's edition of the top 50 streamers list.

Since I'm bad at intros, I'll get right to it:

Table of contents
  • Huh? What's this?
  • Top 50 streamers in April 2013
    • Sorted by avg. viewer
    • Sorted by avg. viewer * hours streamed
    • Stray observations
  • The big picture
  • WCS
  • Proleague vs. GSTL
  • Older entries


Huh? What's this?

For those of you who don't already know what this is about: I'm gathering various data from all the streams that are presented on teamliquid.net (viewers, game, events, etc.) and use that data to produce the pretty tables you see below. The tables only contain SC2 players (that is, people streaming games of Starcraft 2 being played by the streamer themselves) and not casters, teams or other streams. The tables also only contain Starcraft 2 related activities. So CatZ streaming Dota2 will not be taken into account, for instance.

The list


Due to space limitations, I have to shorten the headers and leave some data out of the tables presented here. You can get the full tables from the links below.
The headers aren't as clear as I'd like them to be thanks to this, so here's a quick explanation, just in case: "Viewers" denotes the average viewers in the given month. "Hours" are the hours played. "Place diff" and "Viewer diff" are the place and viewer differences compared to last month.

Also, the HTML version linked beneath the images has some more information that I had to leave out due to space limitation, most notably the featured status of the players.

Now, Without further ado, here's this month's tables:

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(HTML version here)


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(HTML version here)


Stray observations

  • Congratulations to DeMusliM for the #1 spot in the viewers*hours category! That's the first time in ages none of the usual suspects managed to grab that spot.
  • Grubby is getting dangerously close to take Stephano's #1 spot in the other list. But for now, Stephano has the highest average viewers, as usual. That means both lists are led by EG players, who also occupy 3 of the first 5 places in each list. EG domination continues.
  • There are 5 female streamers in this month's list: Livinpink, Ms. Spyte, flo, kaitlyn and Tara Babcock. Not bad! It's even more impressive considering that none of them are featured.
  • While we're at it, here's some information on some of the lesser known names in the lists:
    • (Wiki)Hui:Hui is a Taiwanese player who is mostly playing in the TeSL. His fanbase seems to be found mostly outside of teamliquid and in the Taiwanese community, unsurprisingly.
    • Tara Babcock: She's an, ahem, model. Google her.
    • (P)KingCobra: He's a Russian streamer, mostly playing daily and weekly cups.
    • Filter: "Masters level Terran player", says his stream page. Couldn't find much more than that.Update: Filter is mostly known for creating awesome tutorials. Check out his thread, Bronze to Masters, Improving Mechanics! He's also associated with Quantic Gaming, though not as a player.
  • Currently, I have no way of getting MC's stream numbers, since he is streaming from azubu.tv. He's not listed on teamliquid (see the other thread), and there does not seem to be an API for azubu.tv either, so it's currently not possible to get live viewer data from them. There are other SC2 streamers on azubu.tv that I am missing, too, but those would most likely not have made it into the list.
  • Both halves of the casting Archon are streaming! Rejoice! Although I honestly don't know if Tasteless even streamed any SC2. Whenever I had a look at his stream, he was playing Super Mario 3.
  • Notable absentees this month: Snute, Naniwa, Mana, Bomber, qxc, Nerchio
  • If you find any mistakes or errors in the lists, please do let me know, especially concerning team changes or players that you are absolutely sure should be on the lists, but are not.


The big picture


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(The actual numbers are not important, it's the ratio between month that's important.)

Monthly player stream viewers are dead even. I would argue that that's a good thing.

First of all, the HotS hype is pretty much gone by now, and the viewership is steady. That's undeniably good.
Secondly, we have WCS now. That means a handful hours or more of WCS games most days, for three different time zones! It's quite likely that, with all these regular occurring tournaments now going on, people will spend less time watching player streams. And the players themselves have to spend more time preparing and playing in WCS, too.


WCS

The usual caveat applies: The GSL numbers taken below are solely those from twitch.tv, and do not include people viewing from gomtv.net or numbers from the Korean streams.

Another thing to note is that WCS EU has multiple streams for different languages. I decided to add them all up, since it is unlikely that there are that many people who watched different language streams concurrently. Still, it's entirely possible, and the WCS EU numbers are most likely a bit inflated due to this.

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Those are some pretty damn impressive numbers, I must say. While GSL usually did ~10.000 viewers in WoL, they do ~20.000 now. Again, the caveats mentioned above apply, but that doesn't stop the numbers from going up sharply. And WCS EU numbers are even better! Starcraft: Not dead yet. And we all know how well Dreamhack did, too!

The first WCS NA numbers aren't quite as impressive, but so far there's only been one round, so it's hard to say if future numbers will be similar.


Proleague vs. GSTL

We have GSTL numbers now! Rejoice!

As above, take these numbers with a grain of salt:
  • Both Proleague and GSTL numbers are only taken from twitch.tv.
  • Proleague also has a Korean stream, as well as a TV audience. Neither is taken into account here.
  • As already mentioned, GSTL viewers watching from gomtv.net are not taken into account.
  • In addition, the link to the current GSTL stream on teamliquid.net more often than not leads right to gomtv.net, and not to twitch.tv. When that happens, the numbers don't even take viewers from teamliquid.net into account. That would explain some of the numbers below.


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There's not much to say: People still prefer to watch EG-TL play, unsurprisingly. And, overall, individual leagues are much more popular among us foreigners compared to team leagues. While the GSL numbers clearly benefited from HotS and the new WCS system,
neither Proleague nor GSTL numbers changed much last month.

So that's all for this month.
Hope you guys enjoyed, as always. Any kind of feedback is always welcome!

Older entries
  • Top 50 streamers in March 2013 (HotS numbers!)
  • Top 50 streamers in February 2013 + Proleague/GSL
  • Top 50 streamers in Jan.2013+Proleague/GSL viewers
  • Top 50 streamers in Dec 2012 (plus Top 100 2012!*)
  • Top 50 streamers in November 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in October 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in September 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in August 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in July 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in June 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in May 2012
  • Who is the most popular streamer?(Numbers inside!) (March-April 2012)
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 01 2013 16:41 GMT
#2
Awesome, so much data here, thanks a bunch.

And grats to Demuslim! I've been watching countless hours of his stream this month, feels like he's on 24/7
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Holo82
Profile Joined April 2013
Austria107 Posts
May 01 2013 16:51 GMT
#3
Awesome display of data, and good interpretation. Grats on this piece of work.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14456 Posts
May 01 2013 16:58 GMT
#4
ForGG is not on the list, it's weird ! :D
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
May 01 2013 17:01 GMT
#5
--- Nuked ---
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
May 01 2013 17:20 GMT
#6
So awesome Conti. Just awesome. GJ.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 01 2013 17:54 GMT
#7
Again, always appreciated that you do this <3 ty
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
May 01 2013 18:00 GMT
#8
Always very interesting stuff, thank you very much!
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 01 2013 18:05 GMT
#9
Really interesting as always. Thank you for your work!
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
May 01 2013 18:19 GMT
#10
Hots still going strong! <3
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
ElBlanco
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia140 Posts
May 01 2013 18:22 GMT
#11
Great to see the numbers going up! Also i get the feeling that demuslim might be the one to take over stephano next month and not grubby if recent trends are anything to go buy. At the moment demuslims numbers are clearly the highest of any streamer (at the start of the month they were much lower).
GreyishTommy
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland147 Posts
May 01 2013 18:25 GMT
#12
I feel that forgg's count is very low, imo because you don't get the right amount of viewers if you mouse over his name, because of the dailymotion player
but great work as usual
MKP/Bomber/ForGG/Creator/Jjakji/SuperNova/San/Byul/Life/DRG/HerO/Seed
realbutter
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland28 Posts
May 01 2013 18:27 GMT
#13
While GSL usually did ~10.000 viewers in WoL, they do ~20.000 now.


This needs to be taken with a grain of salt, I know me and alot of others are getting lag on the GomTV stream and are watching on twitch, despite having a year ticket for the gomtv.net site.
LTY
Profile Joined November 2012
United States223 Posts
May 01 2013 18:31 GMT
#14
dam eg taking all the viewers
Known as Miso or LTY
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
May 01 2013 18:32 GMT
#15
Gogo Demu's stream!
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
May 01 2013 18:55 GMT
#16
Ah nice!

Uh, only 200 av. viewers differnt between Stephano and Grubby! so close. It would be so delightfull of a Protoss would be on the top. Did that ever happend? As far as i remember, only Zergs were at the top, right?
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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
May 02 2013 10:46 GMT
#17
UPDATE: Got a PM from Filter, so now I know who Filter is. He's mostly known for creating awesome tutorials. Check out his thread, Bronze to Masters, Improving Mechanics! He's also associated with Quantic Gaming, though not as a player.

On May 02 2013 03:27 realbutter wrote:
Show nested quote +
While GSL usually did ~10.000 viewers in WoL, they do ~20.000 now.


This needs to be taken with a grain of salt, I know me and alot of others are getting lag on the GomTV stream and are watching on twitch, despite having a year ticket for the gomtv.net site.

Interesting. The last time it was actually the twitch.tv stream lagging, and people were switching to gomtv.net for a lag-free show. But I don't think that explains a difference of 10.000 viewers either way. Heck, right now the group of death has 40.000(!) viewers. Awesomeness.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
May 02 2013 11:55 GMT
#18
Amazing job, once again ! But only 1445 viewers for MVP vs FXO ? Seems weird.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Grubby
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands318 Posts
May 02 2013 12:21 GMT
#19
On May 02 2013 20:55 Boucot wrote:
Amazing job, once again ! But only 1445 viewers for MVP vs FXO ? Seems weird.


It was at like 3-4 am CEST and poorly advertised. I can confirm this viewership ;x
Homepage: followgrubby.com Twitter: @followgrubby Facebook: /followgrubby
Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
May 02 2013 12:28 GMT
#20
Great read Thanks.
Will you make viewing statistics for tournaments like Dreamhack etc. as well?
Freelancer veteran
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
May 02 2013 12:32 GMT
#21
People really love Startales... I know cuz I do too :D. Seriously though, the number of people who tune in for their games on GSTL is much higher than the rest, geez.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
May 02 2013 13:15 GMT
#22
On May 02 2013 21:21 Grubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 20:55 Boucot wrote:
Amazing job, once again ! But only 1445 viewers for MVP vs FXO ? Seems weird.


It was at like 3-4 am CEST and poorly advertised. I can confirm this viewership ;x

Maybe you were streaming at this time :D
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
dirtydurb82
Profile Joined December 2012
United States178 Posts
May 02 2013 18:13 GMT
#23
Thanks for compiling this! Grubby, you kill me!
"The only way to grow E-Sports is to tell the truth." -Richard Lewis
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
May 02 2013 18:32 GMT
#24
Helps that HOTS is better than WOL by a huge margin.

SC24lyfe
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 02 2013 18:35 GMT
#25
loltarababcock
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
MrJoKer
Profile Joined November 2011
France232 Posts
May 02 2013 18:41 GMT
#26
Great read , this is a very good post:D
@AbeggJip
Mambo
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark1338 Posts
May 04 2013 03:09 GMT
#27
Great numbers on the EU stream.
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desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
May 06 2013 03:11 GMT
#28
Forgot to thank you for doing this conti, thanks a lot means a lot :D !
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
May 06 2013 03:25 GMT
#29
On May 02 2013 01:58 Aeromi wrote:
ForGG is not on the list, it's weird ! :D


ForGG isn't on there because he is only looking at Twitch and not GameCreds (where ForGG streams), Abuzu etc.
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
May 06 2013 03:41 GMT
#30
Good numbers. I just hope HotS can stay steady/survive until LotV, and that LotV can do at least as well for SC2 as HotS has.
T P Z sagi
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
May 06 2013 03:57 GMT
#31
Nice to see the numbers still sky high, I've been away for a long time. Demusilm pulling results finally?
FlashDave.999 aka Star
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
May 06 2013 04:43 GMT
#32
Thanks for continuing to collect all this awesome data!
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
May 06 2013 06:19 GMT
#33
Thank you for the stats
Wow demuslims stream <3
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SayGen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1209 Posts
May 06 2013 06:35 GMT
#34
Love the SPL domination. Thanks OP for providing this data
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TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
May 06 2013 10:17 GMT
#35
Nice. Demu with 150 hours :D Desrow 175? Holy shit!
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
May 06 2013 11:22 GMT
#36
On May 06 2013 12:25 Netsky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 01:58 Aeromi wrote:
ForGG is not on the list, it's weird ! :D


ForGG isn't on there because he is only looking at Twitch and not GameCreds (where ForGG streams), Abuzu etc.

Actually, Azubu.tv is the only site I don't get any numbers from. I do get the numbers from GameCreds.

Someone mentioned that they might be bugged, though, which is entirely possible. Right now, the tool tip says ForGG has 560 viewers, while the stream overlay says he has 725. Also, ForGG is beatboxing right now. o.O.

I can also imagine that your viewer numbers will suffer in general if you move away from the largest gaming streaming site out there. And/or people simply lost interest in ForGG's stream. It happens.
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