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GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
May 01 2013 08:38 GMT
#61
omg snute and suppy in proleague :D?
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
May 01 2013 08:39 GMT
#62
On May 01 2013 17:08 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 16:53 Sakkreth wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:35 Sakkreth wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:23 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:20 MagnuMizer wrote:
I hope they are sending there to practice, not to play in proleague...

no offense, but snute is definitely not the best player on TL


No offense, but Snute is probably the 3rd best player on TL at the moment.


No way. I'd probably rank him last right now tbh. Except for Sheth cause he's inactive.


Have you actually watched any HotS in the last 3 months?


Yes a lot, and it's not arguable that Hero, Taeja, TLO and Zenio are better, you could make a point for him over Ret maybe, but Ret has showmn more results haven't been as good lately as just after hots launch though.


Well, upon closer look I will concede TLO, but Zenio? Seriously? Come on! Not only has he played very little, most of the games he played were losses.

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


In the same time frame, Snute managed to win a LAN tournament in quite convincing fashion (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ESET_UK_Masters_2013/Season_1 ), as well as do very well in numerous online tournaments (including WCS NA).


Snute went 0-3 in second groupstage at dreamhack, while Zenio did advance from the same group and beat Snute head to head. It's close, but I think Zenio is in better shape at this moment, however training in Korea for Snute might change that.
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 08:45:45
May 01 2013 08:45 GMT
#63
On May 01 2013 17:39 Sakkreth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 17:08 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:53 Sakkreth wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:35 Sakkreth wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:23 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:20 MagnuMizer wrote:
I hope they are sending there to practice, not to play in proleague...

no offense, but snute is definitely not the best player on TL


No offense, but Snute is probably the 3rd best player on TL at the moment.


No way. I'd probably rank him last right now tbh. Except for Sheth cause he's inactive.


Have you actually watched any HotS in the last 3 months?


Yes a lot, and it's not arguable that Hero, Taeja, TLO and Zenio are better, you could make a point for him over Ret maybe, but Ret has showmn more results haven't been as good lately as just after hots launch though.


Well, upon closer look I will concede TLO, but Zenio? Seriously? Come on! Not only has he played very little, most of the games he played were losses.

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


In the same time frame, Snute managed to win a LAN tournament in quite convincing fashion (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ESET_UK_Masters_2013/Season_1 ), as well as do very well in numerous online tournaments (including WCS NA).


Snute went 0-3 in second groupstage at dreamhack, while Zenio did advance from the same group and beat Snute head to head. It's close, but I think Zenio is in better shape at this moment, however training in Korea for Snute might change that.


And Snute has won or placed Top 4 in many online tournaments involving pretty much the same Europeans who were at DreamHack. See, the problem with cherry-picking is that when you only use a very specific and small sample size to prove your point, you fail to see the big picture. Yes, Snute didn't do very well at DreamHack, but he did very well at events leading up to DreamHack, and post-DreamHack he has qualified for WCS NA Ro16 with very solid play.

Like I pointed out (and you can see from the list on Aligulac), Zenio has not only played relatively few games in this time period, making him hard to predict in that sense, he has also lost most of them.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Zenio, I think the guy has a cool personality, but the fact of the matter remains that he has not had any decent results in, what, a year now? Compare this to Snute, who has been doing great since late last year, and TLO and Ret who have been on a resurgence as of late, both displaying great play... it's not even debatable really, once you look at the numbers.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Ponera
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada596 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 08:49:22
May 01 2013 08:48 GMT
#64
I've never had much faith in Snute, though I observe his strong start and recruitment. I really hope he makes me a fan and destroys Korea with the might of a thousand Hwatcha.
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Sedzz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Australia391 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 08:59:53
May 01 2013 08:54 GMT
#65
Could not contain my excitement.

http://i.imgur.com/eE2K4Ls.png
MagnuMizer
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Denmark384 Posts
May 01 2013 08:54 GMT
#66
On May 01 2013 17:45 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 17:39 Sakkreth wrote:
On May 01 2013 17:08 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:53 Sakkreth wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:35 Sakkreth wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:23 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:20 MagnuMizer wrote:
I hope they are sending there to practice, not to play in proleague...

no offense, but snute is definitely not the best player on TL


No offense, but Snute is probably the 3rd best player on TL at the moment.


No way. I'd probably rank him last right now tbh. Except for Sheth cause he's inactive.


Have you actually watched any HotS in the last 3 months?


Yes a lot, and it's not arguable that Hero, Taeja, TLO and Zenio are better, you could make a point for him over Ret maybe, but Ret has showmn more results haven't been as good lately as just after hots launch though.


Well, upon closer look I will concede TLO, but Zenio? Seriously? Come on! Not only has he played very little, most of the games he played were losses.

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


In the same time frame, Snute managed to win a LAN tournament in quite convincing fashion (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ESET_UK_Masters_2013/Season_1 ), as well as do very well in numerous online tournaments (including WCS NA).


Snute went 0-3 in second groupstage at dreamhack, while Zenio did advance from the same group and beat Snute head to head. It's close, but I think Zenio is in better shape at this moment, however training in Korea for Snute might change that.


And Snute has won or placed Top 4 in many online tournaments involving pretty much the same Europeans who were at DreamHack. See, the problem with cherry-picking is that when you only use a very specific and small sample size to prove your point, you fail to see the big picture. Yes, Snute didn't do very well at DreamHack, but he did very well at events leading up to DreamHack, and post-DreamHack he has qualified for WCS NA Ro16 with very solid play.

Like I pointed out (and you can see from the list on Aligulac), Zenio has not only played relatively few games in this time period, making him hard to predict in that sense, he has also lost most of them.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Zenio, I think the guy has a cool personality, but the fact of the matter remains that he has not had any decent results in, what, a year now? Compare this to Snute, who has been doing great since late last year, and TLO and Ret who have been on a resurgence as of late, both displaying great play... it's not even debatable really, once you look at the numbers.


now, i dunno what league you guys are in or how much understanding of the game you have..
but i dont base my claim on the perspective of statistics and results, but his skill level...
i think if he would play in proleague he would be crushed every time.. no need to bash on me for saying that, i love snute, and i would love to be proven wrong.. and in fact i really hope he does practice in korea with the help of coach park, i'm sure he could go very far!
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
May 01 2013 08:58 GMT
#67
Great news! Finally he can go to Korea where he has always wanted to be!
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 01 2013 09:01 GMT
#68
On May 01 2013 17:54 MagnuMizer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 17:45 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 01 2013 17:39 Sakkreth wrote:
On May 01 2013 17:08 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:53 Sakkreth wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:35 Sakkreth wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:23 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:20 MagnuMizer wrote:
I hope they are sending there to practice, not to play in proleague...

no offense, but snute is definitely not the best player on TL


No offense, but Snute is probably the 3rd best player on TL at the moment.


No way. I'd probably rank him last right now tbh. Except for Sheth cause he's inactive.


Have you actually watched any HotS in the last 3 months?


Yes a lot, and it's not arguable that Hero, Taeja, TLO and Zenio are better, you could make a point for him over Ret maybe, but Ret has showmn more results haven't been as good lately as just after hots launch though.


Well, upon closer look I will concede TLO, but Zenio? Seriously? Come on! Not only has he played very little, most of the games he played were losses.

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


In the same time frame, Snute managed to win a LAN tournament in quite convincing fashion (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ESET_UK_Masters_2013/Season_1 ), as well as do very well in numerous online tournaments (including WCS NA).


Snute went 0-3 in second groupstage at dreamhack, while Zenio did advance from the same group and beat Snute head to head. It's close, but I think Zenio is in better shape at this moment, however training in Korea for Snute might change that.


And Snute has won or placed Top 4 in many online tournaments involving pretty much the same Europeans who were at DreamHack. See, the problem with cherry-picking is that when you only use a very specific and small sample size to prove your point, you fail to see the big picture. Yes, Snute didn't do very well at DreamHack, but he did very well at events leading up to DreamHack, and post-DreamHack he has qualified for WCS NA Ro16 with very solid play.

Like I pointed out (and you can see from the list on Aligulac), Zenio has not only played relatively few games in this time period, making him hard to predict in that sense, he has also lost most of them.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Zenio, I think the guy has a cool personality, but the fact of the matter remains that he has not had any decent results in, what, a year now? Compare this to Snute, who has been doing great since late last year, and TLO and Ret who have been on a resurgence as of late, both displaying great play... it's not even debatable really, once you look at the numbers.


now, i dunno what league you guys are in or how much understanding of the game you have..
but i dont base my claim on the perspective of statistics and results, but his skill level...
i think if he would play in proleague he would be crushed every time.. no need to bash on me for saying that, i love snute, and i would love to be proven wrong.. and in fact i really hope he does practice in korea with the help of coach park, i'm sure he could go very far!


I can tell you I've watched many of his recent games and he looked quite sharp. As for getting crushed every time, I can see why you'd think that, but honestly even if you were right that doesn't make him any worse than Zenio.

For your last point, absolutely, if Snute spends at least 2-3 months in Korea practicing at the EG-TL house under Coach Park, he's going to come back and just murder everyone in Europe/NA.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
MysticaL
Profile Joined December 2003
Canada118 Posts
May 01 2013 09:11 GMT
#69
GL Snute, hope to see you play in Proleague
feddeathlon
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany11 Posts
May 01 2013 09:14 GMT
#70
That's why he is participating in WCS US and not EU
Suum cuique
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
May 01 2013 09:15 GMT
#71
Best of luck, it's more fun with a foreign representative in the SPL lineup. I hope you find your stride.
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
May 01 2013 09:24 GMT
#72
Best of Luck Snute, good hunting!
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 09:28:16
May 01 2013 09:26 GMT
#73
On May 01 2013 16:53 Sakkreth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 16:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:35 Sakkreth wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:23 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 01 2013 16:20 MagnuMizer wrote:
I hope they are sending there to practice, not to play in proleague...

no offense, but snute is definitely not the best player on TL


No offense, but Snute is probably the 3rd best player on TL at the moment.


No way. I'd probably rank him last right now tbh. Except for Sheth cause he's inactive.


Have you actually watched any HotS in the last 3 months?


Yes a lot, and it's not arguable that Hero, Taeja, TLO and Zenio are better, you could make a point for him over Ret maybe, but Ret has showmn more results haven't been as good lately as just after hots launch though.

snute is better than zenio, debatable between him and tlo, and I think he has done better than ret.
edit;
also I really think Snute can do well in korea and I hope he does! GL to him.
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Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
May 01 2013 10:11 GMT
#74
I can see Korea working out well for Snute. He´s such a committed player.
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
May 01 2013 10:50 GMT
#75
Wise choice? Who knows.
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
May 01 2013 10:50 GMT
#76
Yay, go Snute go!! Hope to see you get fielded in PL.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Jonvvv
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Norway1530 Posts
May 01 2013 11:16 GMT
#77
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Ry2D2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States429 Posts
May 01 2013 11:20 GMT
#78
Horay! more TL players to korea. Now just send TLO and Ret
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
May 01 2013 11:24 GMT
#79
Happy to hear about this Looking forward to seeing what you and the trip make of you!
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Berceno
Profile Joined May 2012
Spain401 Posts
May 01 2013 11:26 GMT
#80
I don't like snute participating in proleague he isn't good enough he's far from the proleague level, good luck anyways
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