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DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
April 24 2013 08:50 GMT
#21
Sounds great! America needs tournaments like this.
All I do is Stim.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 24 2013 08:50 GMT
#22
Genna is amazing to have in the sc2 scene!

Looks like heaps of fun and hopefully more to come, it might make ladder mean more + help blizzard decide to help fix how many hackers there seems to be.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
April 24 2013 08:51 GMT
#23
Good for you Americans. Genna fighting! :-)
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Fluffboll
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden516 Posts
April 24 2013 08:52 GMT
#24
On April 24 2013 17:49 farvacola wrote:
Hell yeah, I knew something like this was bound to happen. More smart business decisions from the Bane household I'll definitely be watching.

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Now makes StarCraft tournaments to free the people of Gotham America
You need to construct additional pylons.
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
April 24 2013 08:53 GMT
#25
Awesome! Looking forward to seeing who ends up winning the real American WCS. Hopefully the winner will be able to eventually compete in the WCS.
@DreamingBird
KillaRM
Profile Joined September 2010
United States40 Posts
April 24 2013 08:57 GMT
#26
Awesome, but I'm wondering is it good or bad to force players to play on NA? It can be a cool way to invite players but a lot of top level players don't spend much time on NA.
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Fluffboll
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden516 Posts
April 24 2013 08:58 GMT
#27
On April 24 2013 17:57 KillaRM wrote:
Awesome, but I'm wondering is it good or bad to force players to play on NA? It can be a cool way to invite players but a lot of top level players don't spend much time on NA.


I think that might be the point of this, to foster the NA scene and make new talent grow forth the best people need to be on that scene to make it grow
You need to construct additional pylons.
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
April 24 2013 08:58 GMT
#28
On April 24 2013 17:57 KillaRM wrote:
Awesome, but I'm wondering is it good or bad to force players to play on NA? It can be a cool way to invite players but a lot of top level players don't spend much time on NA.

It seems as the idea behind it is to encourage competition on the NA ladder, which seems a good idea to me.
Inimic
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada153 Posts
April 24 2013 09:00 GMT
#29
First of all, I <3 the idea. However, I'm looking forward to how you approach:

- the korean smurfs which routinely make top 16 GM, like anonymous.
- the korean non-smurfs who own face, like cShuttle (I think he lives in NA though)
- the European players who ladder on NA sometimes. Is Stephano going to be the Great American Hope (G.A.H.)?
- Idra being allowed to compete, despite his venomous, rude behavior every single day on ladder, and in most tournaments he's in. (I USED to like the guy mind you)
- the map hackers who sometimes make top 16- saw Grubby play against one recently on EU, top GM, extremely obvious about it with horrible micro.


If you can take care of that stuff (maybe minus the Idra point, I guess he's popular or whatever), I'm really looking forward to it!
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
April 24 2013 09:01 GMT
#30
this is the real american WCS. hopefully demu can play
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51480 Posts
April 24 2013 09:04 GMT
#31
Anyone know if top 4 also get a small amount of WCS points for their final standing?
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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 09:12:18
April 24 2013 09:12 GMT
#32
I'm puzzled with the notion of "permanent resident" : is it a legal definition ?

I mean, will Polt be allowed to play (he must have only a student visa) ?

And DemusliM ? I don't think he has a green card...
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 24 2013 09:13 GMT
#33
On April 24 2013 17:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 17:38 Pandemona wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:36 Pandemona wrote:
Finally. DeMuslim gets to show he is the best NA player
Oh and win a tournament for first time in a while :D

Oh, thanks for making this TB


Polt.


Oh fuck ;_;
But he shouldn't count ((((( rofl


Actually if you read the fine print, then neither Demuslim or Polt should be allowed to play. Neither are Permanent Residents or Citizens in the legal sense.


TB said during the stream hijack of WSC NA that DeMu has documentation to make him a US resident or something? As he is not on a working VISA nor is he a student?
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nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 09:15:36
April 24 2013 09:14 GMT
#34
On April 24 2013 18:00 Inimic wrote:
First of all, I <3 the idea. However, I'm looking forward to how you approach:

- the korean smurfs which routinely make top 16 GM, like anonymous.
- the korean non-smurfs who own face, like cShuttle (I think he lives in NA though)
- the European players who ladder on NA sometimes. Is Stephano going to be the Great American Hope (G.A.H.)?
- Idra being allowed to compete, despite his venomous, rude behavior every single day on ladder, and in most tournaments he's in. (I USED to like the guy mind you)
- the map hackers who sometimes make top 16- saw Grubby play against one recently on EU, top GM, extremely obvious about it with horrible micro.


If you can take care of that stuff (maybe minus the Idra point, I guess he's popular or whatever), I'm really looking forward to it!

From the op:
Participants are required to produce proof of citizenship or permanent residency in either North or South America.

So no EU or KR players (outside of the continent at least). Hackers may be a concern but so is it for most online tournaments. I'm sure they try their best to make sure no one of the players are a known hackers at least.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
April 24 2013 09:15 GMT
#35
On April 24 2013 18:13 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 17:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:38 Pandemona wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:36 Pandemona wrote:
Finally. DeMuslim gets to show he is the best NA player
Oh and win a tournament for first time in a while :D

Oh, thanks for making this TB


Polt.


Oh fuck ;_;
But he shouldn't count ((((( rofl


Actually if you read the fine print, then neither Demuslim or Polt should be allowed to play. Neither are Permanent Residents or Citizens in the legal sense.


TB said during the stream hijack of WSC NA that DeMu has documentation to make him a US resident or something? As he is not on a working VISA nor is he a student?


Pretty sure he mentioned this in ITG episode or few back, or somewhere at least. If you have time to dig it up from a show/interview he has been, feel free.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
April 24 2013 09:16 GMT
#36
On April 24 2013 18:14 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 18:00 Inimic wrote:
First of all, I <3 the idea. However, I'm looking forward to how you approach:

- the korean smurfs which routinely make top 16 GM, like anonymous.
- the korean non-smurfs who own face, like cShuttle (I think he lives in NA though)
- the European players who ladder on NA sometimes. Is Stephano going to be the Great American Hope (G.A.H.)?
- Idra being allowed to compete, despite his venomous, rude behavior every single day on ladder, and in most tournaments he's in. (I USED to like the guy mind you)
- the map hackers who sometimes make top 16- saw Grubby play against one recently on EU, top GM, extremely obvious about it with horrible micro.


If you can take care of that stuff (maybe minus the Idra point, I guess he's popular or whatever), I'm really looking forward to it!

From the op:
Show nested quote +
Participants are required to produce proof of citizenship or permanent residency in either North or South America.

So no EU or KR players (outside of the continent at least). Hackers may be a concern but so is it for most online tournaments. I'm sure they try their best to make sure no one of the players are a known hackers at least.


Even if hackers somehow manage to get in.

*Xcom voice*
We will be watching.
tuoli9
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland211 Posts
April 24 2013 09:21 GMT
#37
This sounds really good, Shoutcraft Invitationals have always been great. Price pool is really nice too! Mr. & Mrs. Bain your contributions towards SC2 scene are to be admired. Can't wait!
Intricacy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States218 Posts
April 24 2013 09:22 GMT
#38
Hey guys! Thanks so much for the initial wave of support. This idea just sort of came on while I was watching my guys play in WCS qualifiers. I'm American, so my heart was breaking seeing so many spots for an NA event go to non-NA players. Not to take anything away from how awesome those players are, but I really want to infuse our region's ladder with some much needed enthusiasm.

To clarify a point some of you are bringing up : Eligibility is dependent on the player having either citizenship or a permanent residency card (green card or equivalent) for any North America or South America country.
Axiom Founder | SHOUTcraft America Organizer | RIP TB 1984-2018
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
April 24 2013 09:22 GMT
#39
On April 24 2013 18:13 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 17:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:38 Pandemona wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:36 Pandemona wrote:
Finally. DeMuslim gets to show he is the best NA player
Oh and win a tournament for first time in a while :D

Oh, thanks for making this TB


Polt.


Oh fuck ;_;
But he shouldn't count ((((( rofl


Actually if you read the fine print, then neither Demuslim or Polt should be allowed to play. Neither are Permanent Residents or Citizens in the legal sense.


TB said during the stream hijack of WSC NA that DeMu has documentation to make him a US resident or something? As he is not on a working VISA nor is he a student?


Actually i just checked the VOD, at 16:35, Demuslim talks about his situation. Basically he is a foreigner, sorting out his working visa.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 24 2013 09:23 GMT
#40
On April 24 2013 18:22 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 18:13 Pandemona wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:38 Pandemona wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:36 Pandemona wrote:
Finally. DeMuslim gets to show he is the best NA player
Oh and win a tournament for first time in a while :D

Oh, thanks for making this TB


Polt.


Oh fuck ;_;
But he shouldn't count ((((( rofl


Actually if you read the fine print, then neither Demuslim or Polt should be allowed to play. Neither are Permanent Residents or Citizens in the legal sense.


TB said during the stream hijack of WSC NA that DeMu has documentation to make him a US resident or something? As he is not on a working VISA nor is he a student?


Actually i just checked the VOD, at 16:35, Demuslim talks about his situation. Basically he is a foreigner, sorting out his working visa.


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