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SHOUTcraft America announced - Page 18

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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 27 2013 02:40 GMT
#341
Upgraded. MLG working with TB to make everything better across the board.
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-JoKeR-
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada387 Posts
April 27 2013 02:57 GMT
#342
This is really good news, also going to look forward to TB casting some WCS NA
Intricacy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States218 Posts
April 27 2013 03:08 GMT
#343
Going to cross post the information I put out on reddit just now to cover all bases.

Sorry for the change in schedule guys. I've updated the shoutcraft.com website to reflect the new schedule. We will be starting on the 5th of May due to the sudden conflict of the WCS NA Challenger Qualifier being moved to the 4th of May. This qualifier, from what I am told, was moved as a result of not wanting to broadcast on top of DreamHack.
So, the one thing I would like potential participants to keep in mind is this... If you are in the semifinals on May 19th, please bear in mind that you could be getting on a plane on May 20th to New York to play in the finals on May 21st. If you are a resident outside of the United States, please ensure that you have a valid passport or are able to obtain one prior to the finals. Let's not have an amazing event only to foil the finals due to paperwork! Thanks <3
Axiom Founder | SHOUTcraft America Organizer | RIP TB 1984-2018
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 03:15:37
April 27 2013 03:13 GMT
#344
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 27 2013 11:33 Grettin wrote:
Update:


This is very awesome, props to MLG for helping make this tournament even better!
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 27 2013 03:28 GMT
#345
Having the finals offline will be so awesome, nice to see MLg helping out.
DisillusionedAcronym
Profile Joined September 2011
190 Posts
April 27 2013 11:01 GMT
#346
so. awesome. genna and TB, you people rock. thank you so much.

also, with axslav co-casting with TB for the final . . . genna, could you please, please, PLEASE sign him to axiom for at least that day?!?! PLEASE!
Deadlift
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States358 Posts
April 28 2013 14:23 GMT
#347
Here are the SHOUTcraft America Standings as of about an hour ago.

http://sc2links.com/blog/?p=317
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
April 28 2013 14:32 GMT
#348
bummed that demu can't play in this, but it's for the good of NA... props to organisers
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Gabriel_reaper
Profile Joined December 2006
Czech Republic41 Posts
April 29 2013 15:54 GMT
#349
On April 26 2013 15:42 Daswollvieh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 15:31 Holdenintherye wrote:
On April 26 2013 15:16 TeslasPigeon wrote:
Very cool that there is a tournament such as this to help motivate and require participants to ladder.

However, I don't agree with the GM requirement. I don't think it is fair to players that have other obligations and can't afford the time to reach GM. I can't think of too many players, but I know Spanishiwa isn't GM but he is a very good player. But it is Genna/TB's choice to do what they see as fair and fit.

I know it may seem that ladder maps would be the obvious choice, but I think it would be cool if some KESPA maps were introduced. They'd change up the playstyles and it would be nice to see maps that aren't being constantly played as was the case for last year.

The point having the GM requirement is that currently there is no reward for being on GM. Lot of players invest time and effort into the ladder, yet there is no "real" way of benefiting from this. This tournament is trying to provide an opportunity to reward those players.


It´s a weird situation. Most of the training happens on ladder, but the serious one on smurf accounts. I wonder how they deal with it and whether barcodes will be applicable. If not, it would force players to practice publicly, which many won´t want to.


Barcodes are applicable so not matter at all.
(case in point - MouzIllusion plays as barcode and is eligible to play if he hits top 16 and proves he own the account).
Broken english FTW.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 30 2013 08:23 GMT
#350
Apparently there has been match-fixing on the NA ladder.

As the qualification period for the SHOUTcraft America tournament enters its final stage, ladder position now matters more than ever. While this has brought competition to the ladder it has also brought less above-board methods to ensure that player ladder rank remains intact. We have uncovered evidence that some players have been engaging in forced-draws in order to maintain their ladder rank. Several players within the top 16 have multiple ties on their match history in which the build order clearly indicates that both players consenting to a mutual draw in order to maintain their ladder rankings.

This is probably our fault, we did not specifically prohibit this behavior, however we think it is clear to see that it is against the spirit of the competition. Since we did not outline regulations against this behavior, we will be offering a one time amnesty for it. Win-trading and forced draws are against the qualification rules for SHOUTcraft America. Ladder points must be accrued in a legitimate fashion, by beating the opponent fair and square. We should also remind players that the account they are playing on must belong to them and any boosting to the account being done by players other than the primary user of said account, is against the qualification rules. Blizzard is working with us to individually verify each account and needless to say they have logged all IP addresses used to access these accounts. If it is found that multiple players have played on the account in order to rank it up during the qualification period then that account will be subject to disqualification.

The win-trading and the forced draws stop right now. There will be zero tolerance for this behavior going forward. Those ladder points are not worth your qualification spot, do not risk being disqualified.


I'm not certain how I feel about the amnesty. It's clearly against Blizzard policy and, imo, it warrants disqualification. There should be a strong deterrent policy against cheating. And as the points reflected on the ladder today, 1 day before the deadline, have been accrued by cheating, they should not count.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
April 30 2013 08:36 GMT
#351
How does the ip checking work? I've probably played on a few different ips on my account, since I was laddering on it at dreamhack and at the gaming house both.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10012 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 09:02:01
April 30 2013 08:50 GMT
#352
edit: oh.. we cant do that t.t
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BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
April 30 2013 09:04 GMT
#353
Are Australians eligible? We like freedom too down here.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10012 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 09:10:45
April 30 2013 09:10 GMT
#354
under the new reddit constitution australians should be eligible
http://www.reddit.com/r/ameristralia
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BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 09:56:03
April 30 2013 09:55 GMT
#355
Well I'm 19th right now and apparently servers shutting down soon.

Fingers crossed TB loves Australians more than the 4 Europeans above me.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 10:30:34
April 30 2013 10:30 GMT
#356
On April 28 2013 23:32 netherDrake wrote:
bummed that demu can't play in this, but it's for the good of NA... props to organisers

Why not? Do people need to literally be born and currently living in NA? That sucks, I was going to watch solely on the expectation Demuslim was to play
Refer to my post.
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
April 30 2013 10:33 GMT
#357
We want SHOUTcraft America to be a step in that direction. This is an American tournament made exclusively for American players. Participants are required to produce proof of citizenship or permanent residency in either North or South America. Players who are not citizens of a continental American country or hold a permanent residency status, such as a Greencard, will not be eligible to participate.

Well, it is described in the OP since it is up.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
April 30 2013 10:54 GMT
#358
Yea but everyone likes Australians.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
Dorf_Midget
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland39 Posts
April 30 2013 13:00 GMT
#359
On April 30 2013 19:54 iaguz wrote:
Yea but everyone likes Australians.


I don't. You guys are living in a land where everything is full of poison. That means you must be immune to it! You are way too strong!!!
OneRedBeard
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany313 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 13:14:06
April 30 2013 13:13 GMT
#360
On April 30 2013 22:00 Dorf_Midget wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 19:54 iaguz wrote:
Yea but everyone likes Australians.


I don't. You guys are living in a land where everything is full of poison. That means you must be immune to it! You are way too strong!!!


Also, as everybody knows, Australia is entirely peopled with criminals, and criminals are used to having people not trust them, as you are not trusted by me, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you.

It is so exciting to have the three barcodes hanging around up there - who could it be? Artosis? Incontrol? TB himself? The possible drama! :D
burn the land and boil the sea you can't take the sky from me
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