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WCS China champion Comm DQ'ed from WCS America - Page 13

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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
April 22 2013 02:44 GMT
#241
Does anyone know if Comm told each of his opponents beforehand that he was Comm and not Fruitsbasket? If Comm told each of his opponents beforehand, then it think it would be fine since there's really no difference with who's account you play on. On the other hand, if Comm didn't tell them, then he has a distinct advantage. Players play differently depending on their opponent, especially since Comm is fairly popular and a lot of pros knows his style. In this case, I would leave it up to the players that Comm knocked out to decide if he should be DQed.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 02:46:38
April 22 2013 02:45 GMT
#242
On April 22 2013 11:44 Chairman Ray wrote:
Does anyone know if Comm told each of his opponents beforehand that he was Comm and not Fruitsbasket? If Comm told each of his opponents beforehand, then it think it would be fine since there's really no difference with who's account you play on. On the other hand, if Comm didn't tell them, then he has a distinct advantage. Players play differently depending on their opponent, especially since Comm is fairly popular and a lot of pros knows his style. In this case, I would leave it up to the players that Comm knocked out to decide if he should be DQed.

Caliber came into the thread and said he had no idea who the guy was and suspected he was Comm after he got 2-0d by him because he said the guy was really good
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408680&currentpage=101#2001
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soiii
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany266 Posts
April 22 2013 02:47 GMT
#243
If this would be a real sport the whole qualifier would need to be redone.
E.L.V.I.S
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium458 Posts
April 22 2013 02:47 GMT
#244
Caliber just lost to a better player than him and I am pretty sure that he accepts it and doesn't complain about the situation.
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BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
April 22 2013 02:47 GMT
#245
I personally want to apologize to Invictus Gaming for what happened to them. I belong to America, just like MLG. I would have made an extremely valuable asset to their organization if they would have just listened to me.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 02:49:03
April 22 2013 02:48 GMT
#246
On April 22 2013 11:47 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
Caliber just lost to a better player than him and I am pretty sure that he accepts it and doesn't complain about the situation.

yeah he didnt complain at all. He just said the guy was good and thought it was Comm and corrected us on saying that it was a zerg since whoever did liquipedia had fruitsbasket listed as a protoss. (fruitsbasket is always a zerg though if you look up his bnet profile so idk why he was listed as protoss. it's not like opponents would be tricked into thinking they were facing a protoss or anything)
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
April 22 2013 02:50 GMT
#247
On April 22 2013 11:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 11:44 Chairman Ray wrote:
Does anyone know if Comm told each of his opponents beforehand that he was Comm and not Fruitsbasket? If Comm told each of his opponents beforehand, then it think it would be fine since there's really no difference with who's account you play on. On the other hand, if Comm didn't tell them, then he has a distinct advantage. Players play differently depending on their opponent, especially since Comm is fairly popular and a lot of pros knows his style. In this case, I would leave it up to the players that Comm knocked out to decide if he should be DQed.

Caliber came into the thread and said he had no idea who the guy was and suspected he was Comm after he got 2-0d by him because he said the guy was really good
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408680&currentpage=101#2001


Ty, I can definitely see a legitimate reason for him to be DQed then. At the same time, I hope MLG can find a way to reinstate him as an exception. I know that China has a very large and very passionate sc2 community, but they've only got a small handful of players that could possibly win the qualifiers. Comm being able to play would make the WCS so much better.
eddwaan
Profile Joined March 2013
18 Posts
April 22 2013 02:52 GMT
#248
MLG is doing a terrible job. such a joke tournament...sigh
LGIMMvp :D
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3829 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 02:56:24
April 22 2013 02:55 GMT
#249
Can't say I agree with the decision here, but I'm still disappointed that there never was a chance of a player with the ID "FruitsBasket" competing in Premier.
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
April 22 2013 03:00 GMT
#250
I really like how a lot of people are complaining about MLG for this, yet their rules, which the players should have read beforehand, clearly state that it's not okay to account share. If FruitsBaskets were to have asked the MLG admins if he could give his seed to Comm instead, they might have okay'd it and he would still be in. But since they didn't even say anything to either the players he played against or the staff, he deserved the dq.
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
Dr.Sin
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1126 Posts
April 22 2013 03:01 GMT
#251
This is not acceptable. MLG needs to review this decision. -_-
E.L.V.I.S
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium458 Posts
April 22 2013 03:02 GMT
#252
On April 22 2013 12:00 Ercster wrote:
I really like how a lot of people are complaining about MLG for this, yet their rules, which the players should have read beforehand, clearly state that it's not okay to account share. If FruitsBaskets were to have asked the MLG admins if he could give his seed to Comm instead, they might have okay'd it and he would still be in. But since they didn't even say anything to either the players he played against or the staff, he deserved the dq.


Maybe comm doesn't speak english..
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Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
April 22 2013 03:04 GMT
#253
On April 22 2013 12:02 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 12:00 Ercster wrote:
I really like how a lot of people are complaining about MLG for this, yet their rules, which the players should have read beforehand, clearly state that it's not okay to account share. If FruitsBaskets were to have asked the MLG admins if he could give his seed to Comm instead, they might have okay'd it and he would still be in. But since they didn't even say anything to either the players he played against or the staff, he deserved the dq.


Maybe comm doesn't speak english..

Not MLG or Blizzards fault. If they can't read the rules, then they need to say something and get help.
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 22 2013 03:05 GMT
#254
On April 22 2013 12:02 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 12:00 Ercster wrote:
I really like how a lot of people are complaining about MLG for this, yet their rules, which the players should have read beforehand, clearly state that it's not okay to account share. If FruitsBaskets were to have asked the MLG admins if he could give his seed to Comm instead, they might have okay'd it and he would still be in. But since they didn't even say anything to either the players he played against or the staff, he deserved the dq.


Maybe comm doesn't speak english..

I don't know how MLG is supposed to fix that problem. They can't teach people to read a language just to make sure they understand the rules.
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LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
April 22 2013 03:05 GMT
#255
would he have been DQed if he had declared at the beginning that he was given another players spot?
JD, need I say more? :D
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
April 22 2013 03:05 GMT
#256
I can understand both sides of the argument for this.
As an overall, I am just not happy with how the NA WCS has been handled so far.
kkiller
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2 Posts
April 22 2013 03:07 GMT
#257
If this is to be fair, MLG must take back the DQ and let COMM play. And there is still time since the games start tomorrow.
WCS NA = WCS KOREA
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
April 22 2013 03:08 GMT
#258
On April 22 2013 12:04 Ercster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 12:02 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
On April 22 2013 12:00 Ercster wrote:
I really like how a lot of people are complaining about MLG for this, yet their rules, which the players should have read beforehand, clearly state that it's not okay to account share. If FruitsBaskets were to have asked the MLG admins if he could give his seed to Comm instead, they might have okay'd it and he would still be in. But since they didn't even say anything to either the players he played against or the staff, he deserved the dq.


Maybe comm doesn't speak english..

Not MLG or Blizzards fault. If they can't read the rules, then they need to say something and get help.



You're right, but to play devils advocate the rules should be available in a few different languages. This is an international competition.
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Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
April 22 2013 03:11 GMT
#259
On April 22 2013 12:08 Klipsys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 12:04 Ercster wrote:
On April 22 2013 12:02 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
On April 22 2013 12:00 Ercster wrote:
I really like how a lot of people are complaining about MLG for this, yet their rules, which the players should have read beforehand, clearly state that it's not okay to account share. If FruitsBaskets were to have asked the MLG admins if he could give his seed to Comm instead, they might have okay'd it and he would still be in. But since they didn't even say anything to either the players he played against or the staff, he deserved the dq.


Maybe comm doesn't speak english..

Not MLG or Blizzards fault. If they can't read the rules, then they need to say something and get help.



You're right, but to play devils advocate the rules should be available in a few different languages. This is an international competition.

This is an American (North and South) tournament, so they should be written in the most common languages in that region (English and Spanish. Maybe Portuguese and French)
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 22 2013 03:11 GMT
#260
it's completely retarded to say, chinese players didn't read the rules, when your rules are not internationalized and the check-in time registration is obviously unfair because for some people in east asia and australia this means early in the morning and god knows what hectic scheduling, while twitch.tv platinum players are clicking away on the site.

but mlg's inexperience/mishandling of a non-NA exclusive tournament isn't that surprising. they had little time to prepare and organize. this does make blizzard's lack of any plan for non-korea asia and australia players all the worse.
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